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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 21, 2006 16:03:56 GMT -6
who wants to share their feelings about Cthulhu's Call? who has heard and answered the Call of our Drowned Lord...?
"there is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path..."
i think this quote from The Matrix reveals an esoteric truth. anyone care to endarken us?
Venger Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priestwww.CultofCthulhu.net
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Post by darkstar on Sept 21, 2006 16:44:43 GMT -6
This is a very important question, perhaps the most important in this forum. I'm not sure if I have been called or not. All I can say is this is the first time I participate in a yahoo group or an online forum. And I have never established in the past any type of relation with LHP practitioners, neither real world or online.
I find some inspiration from Darrick to try to be more enlightened, because sometimes I get into self-destructive routines, and change is needed. However I have found that I'm full of fear and this dark environment seem to unleash all of it liek a pandoras box. I have waked up many nights, when I don't know what the fuck is happening, I feel a weird cold, I don't know if it's my mind playing tricks on me.
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Post by Yevathik on Sept 21, 2006 16:54:06 GMT -6
I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you mean.
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Post by iandiabhal on Sept 22, 2006 8:08:41 GMT -6
Well just to clarify..Venger meant what was it that convinced you to become involved with Cult of Cthulhu?
Was that what you were asking?
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 22, 2006 10:57:34 GMT -6
yes, there is that... but i am also wondering about the Cthulhu Mythos as religious experience. if you feel a strong connection to the Great Old Ones, then try to examine and explain these feelings.
VS
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Post by darkstar on Sept 22, 2006 14:34:18 GMT -6
I became involved just to experiment, to try something new. There is not a valid reason for what I did. I didn't know anything about the Cthulhu mythos before. And about the Great Old Ones, well that one is more difficult to answer, I guess I have some attraction to the macabre and this is an indirect way to explain it. What I mean is that I don't care much about the Great Old Ones, specialy Cthulhu. I'm not an official member yet, but I'm having lots of interesting learning due to the fact this is my first time on an online forum.
I think that what Darrick is asking about deep religious experience with the G.O.O is something remakable. Althought I doubt someone can have a religious experience as powerful as the traditional religions with something as unorthodox like the Lovecraft mythos. However it would be interesting to find I'm wrong.
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Post by Yevathik on Sept 22, 2006 16:55:30 GMT -6
Actually I wanted to know what Ian meant.
As for this thread, I used to be far too asleep to hear the call. Coasting through life sucked the big one. If not for the fact that my family practices magic I probably wouldn't have delved as deeply as I have. But yeah, it's like a familiar kind of deja vu feeling with the mythos. Except you can't quite remember...
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 23, 2006 11:26:45 GMT -6
would you say that the state of religious experience is something that happens to you (involuntary) or something you make happen (voluntary)? can a moment of revelation be Willed?
personally, i think it makes more sense to become excited about something one feels connected or drawn to, something virtually unknown which shouldn't have any reason to exist, something which should not be...
all religions are "made up"; they all come from individuals in contact with Higher Mind or Outer Forces. to worship the most watered down and mainstream version of "divine truth" seems like an insult to religious experience itself.
how can one rejoice in the amusement of the masses?
read H.P. Lovecraft, continue to observe yourself, keep working with the Cthulhu Mythos paradigm and eventually you will experience a change!
VS
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Post by derith on Sept 23, 2006 11:40:17 GMT -6
I totally agree with your statement. That's why I refuse to convert my daughter into any religion, she has to make that decision for her self. I my self was born into a catholic family, but never attended any church, thankfully.
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Post by devoutbeliever666 on Sept 25, 2006 14:56:24 GMT -6
I think I have been called because the intrest in the Darkness grew from seemingly nowhere.
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Post by nergal on Sept 25, 2006 18:55:34 GMT -6
Hi guys, well about the Cult of Cthulhu. Do any of you follow the Necronomicon written by Simon? The great old ones. The Zonei and Enki.
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Post by bellaxxluna65 on Sept 25, 2006 19:02:57 GMT -6
I believe I was born knowing the path, but I have not always walked the path....I feel My upbringing and society have tried to make Me avoid My darkness, as if it were an enemy. It is My best friend, and to Me envelopes My soul....I find much comfort and balance when I am aware....I am stressed and how you say...off kilter when I avoid My truth...I am determined to follow My natural instincts as to walk the true path...
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 26, 2006 11:14:58 GMT -6
some Cultists use the simon Necronomicon, although most realize that it is the magician's belief that creates change rather than some inherent wisdom in the book itself.
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Post by nergal on Sept 26, 2006 19:57:11 GMT -6
yes you are right on that. it's your beliefs and what you put out. some Cultists use the simon Necronomicon, although most realize that it is the magician's belief that creates change rather than some inherent wisdom in the book itself.
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Post by davidltamarin on Sept 27, 2006 22:46:54 GMT -6
The Old Ones communicated to us through our dreams. I was called during a state of lucid dreaming. After reading The Dream Quest of the Unknown Kadath, my first encounter with Lovecraft, I fell into a deep sleep where I was pulled underwater and informed I would be a gateway between their world and ours.
I had my first encounter with alien life this way, they came to me while I was in a deep sleep and showed me footage of the annihilation of Earth. I felt myself die and felt my spirit ride around like a roller coaster and rise up until it dissipated into the universe. Death was nothing- that was the aliens lesson. Years later when my lung collapsed I spent three days in the operating room and flatlined three times. I sensed but could not see the aliens watching me from above.
I believe these aliens are somehow connected to the Old Ones but I do not know how. I just know I have been chosen for something and I feel fortunate. I very much miss the alien presence and wait for the day they return. But since I learned the lesson they taught me I fear I will not see them again. To be honest, I can not even feel their presence anymore and sometimes I doubt the reality of the experiences. I believe they have moved on to others.
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Post by Yevathik on Sept 28, 2006 9:00:00 GMT -6
Actually, how many of our members have had near-death experiences, anyway? I died once when I was barely a couple months old. There was a heat wave, and I was dressed in incredibly stuffy flannel clothing. I had a stroke, and my dad revived me by running a small electrical current through my heart (with magic).
Perhaps almost dying is one way to be called.
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Post by JJ Burke on Sept 28, 2006 11:15:58 GMT -6
regarding the first topic, my attraction to the mythos has a double foundation. the superficial one is the literature, the storytelling style that gracefully exploits the reader's imagination. but even more compelling to me is the thematic struggle between cosmic humility and human ambition. too many people don't really appreciate this as a valid question. it's easily shrugged off as a psychological disorder, some kind of post-traumatic-depression cocktail. what's wrong with you, reading and writing these demented stories? we live in marvelous times, after all! look at this splendid internet we're all enjoying. people are living longer, and having more boners! pessimism is a mental malfunction. we have pills and religions that can help you. we warned you not to look down, didn't we? here are a couple of quotations (i don't normally like to use them, but we're talking about things that i don't like trying to put into my own words): "Now all my tales are based on the fundamental premise that common human laws and interests and emotions have no validity or significance in the vast cosmos-at-large." —H.P. Lovecraft
"The individual feels the futility of human desires and aims and the sublimity and marvelous order which reveal themselves both in nature and in the world of thought. Individual existence impresses him as a sort of prison and he wants to experience the universe as a single significant whole." —Albert Einstein
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Post by Vacancy Light on Sept 28, 2006 16:59:19 GMT -6
It seems to me that a "calling" implies that we are responding to external stimuli. My experience of being inundated with green goo, if you will, suggests that this is actually an internal thing. We are all different, after all. Even a shared interest in the imagination of Lovecraft does not necessarily guarantee we are on similar pages, or even in the same book. Myself, I have always felt different from others. I don't really understand what it is that humanity is or does that seems to leave me outside in the dark with my nose pressed firmly against the window pane, looking in. I have come to terms and learned to identify with the maelstrom out here, the dark and the wet. This is my home now. You can keep your candles.
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 29, 2006 12:21:18 GMT -6
i think the Calling is both internal and external.
VS
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Post by Nyarlathotep on Oct 5, 2006 19:51:59 GMT -6
who wants to share their feelings about Cthulhu's Call? who has heard and answered the Call of our Drowned Lord...?
"there is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path..."
i think this quote from The Matrix reveals an esoteric truth. anyone care to endarken us?
Venger Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priestwww.CultofCthulhu.net Um.. you mean like "actions speak louder than words"? The Matrix was a very cool movie but I really doubt it, or any other creation of the human race, deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as either "esoteric truths" or "Cthulhu". High Priest my transdimensional fungoid ass. By whose decree? It's like "Do you believe in aliens?". If you feel a need to babble about it, you probably believe in the -idea- of aliens visiting this insignificant rock, but you are also one of the last people the aliens would choose to reveal themselves to. Unless they were having one of those alien "senior moments".
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 5, 2006 20:10:33 GMT -6
well, hoss. you're not even a registered member of this forum. basically your a guest in my house. this is my domain and you're tone is not appreciated.
if you want to constructively contribute to the Cult of Cthulhu forum, then by all means go at it... but if you don't, then i will just delete your posts. i'm not very impressed with your what you've had to say so far. consider this a warning...
some of the ideas in The Matrix film are just as powerful as the ideas which come from Buddha, Jesus, Anton LaVey, Lovecraft, or the Dali fucking lama. along with The Matrix, i would include Star Wars, Naked, Fight Club, Henry Fool, The Godfather, etc.
of course some parts are these movies are not esoteric nor truthful, but there are moments.
Venger Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priestwww.CultofCthulhu.net
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Post by Yevathik on Oct 5, 2006 21:45:55 GMT -6
V for Vendetta is pretty high up there, too. Um.. you mean like "actions speak louder than words"? The Matrix was a very cool movie but I really doubt it, or any other creation of the human race, deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as either "esoteric truths" or "Cthulhu".
And why not? He makes a point by using the quote. Not so much that "Actions speak louder than words", more that a choice must be made. If using mundane things like the matrix as an example strengthens his argument, then let him do his thing. In this case, the choice is to either follow the left-hand path, or choose not to. Red pill, blue pill.
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Post by stretloth on Oct 6, 2006 16:05:50 GMT -6
"High Priest my transdimensional fungoid ass. By whose decree?
It's like "Do you believe in aliens?". If you feel a need to babble about it, you probably believe in the -idea- of aliens visiting this insignificant rock, but you are also one of the last people the aliens would choose to reveal themselves to."
[glow=red,2,300][/glow]Wow...If thats just not pure bad ettiquete I dont know what is! "consider yourself warned"...well VS you handled that better than I would have, talk about banning someone for offensive language... Im afriad to say too much on the subject but I think some folks hear 'the call' but fear 'the way'
Ia! Ia! Vengar Satanis!
Stretloth, Herald of the Old Gods
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Post by iandiabhal on Oct 6, 2006 21:53:20 GMT -6
}}Um.. you mean like "actions speak louder than words"? The Matrix was a very cool movie but I really doubt it, or any other creation of the human race, deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as either "esoteric truths" or "Cthulhu". Ian> In your own words, "By whose decree?" Yours? }}High Priest my transdimensional fungoid ass. By whose decree? Ian> Well first off that sounds just a tad fungoid green jealous. What does it matter? Why in the name of Great Cthulhu's tentacles do you even give a hoot? I would say by Darrick's "decree" his contribution and through the agreement/support of those who choose to participate. I have years and years of occult experience, yet I have no difficulty referring to Darrick as "High Priest". I would refer you to www.cultofcthulhu.net. His title reflects his level of contribution, ambition, activity and desire, as well as putting forth his own money out of his OWN pocket to finance this board and promote the Mythos and the Cult of Cthulhu. This isnt just some jaded dilettante arrogantly pronouncing himself High Shoggoth of the Universe, or some professional shitstirrer. Darrick is a man on a mission. Many of us share this vision in our own ways and support his activities. This is not a cult of personality, it is a cult of action. Darrick has earned the title. I see no pretension in it.. What have you done besides embarassed yourself, by putting down someone that is obviously more ambitious than yourself? Rather illuminating I would say.. }}It's like "Do you believe in aliens?". If you feel a need to babble about it, you probably believe in the -idea- of aliens visiting this insignificant rock, but you are also one of the last people the aliens would choose to reveal themselves to. Ian> And where did you formulate this "holy sounding" psychobabble from? Who would you think they would want to see? Celebrities? Politicians? Yourself? }}Unless they were having one of those alien "senior moments". Ian> Well perhaps your having a 'taking the piss' moment.
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Post by Yevathik on Oct 7, 2006 5:33:51 GMT -6
You know what, Ian? You win the internet. ;D
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Post by marmaraoth on Oct 7, 2006 13:35:51 GMT -6
Behind all of this debate, however, there is what seems to be a good question. Here's how the High Priest is described in your manifesto:
"The eye in the pyramid, the High Priest must see all and know all. He must be The Way: Godlike and beyond dualistic notions / concepts, i.e. good and evil, right and wrong, safe and dangerous, real and unreal, sane and insane."
From your Yahoo group:
"hate to pull rank on you, hoss, but in fact I AM the Way. i never wanted or intended to be The One, but i am he. no Cultist may enter Cthulhu's eldritch kingdom except through me. i do admit that it is theoretically possible for any human being to potentially be the Way, as in the gateway to the Old Ones' knowledge... however, the chances are extremely remote. like it or not, i am the only chance for those who wish to Awaken (for now at least, and i dearly wish that this will change soon)."
How do you read this? Frankly, it sounds like somebody's weird head trip to me.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 7, 2006 14:27:10 GMT -6
well, i stand by both my statements. although, i do think that Ian put it better than all of us. thanks, hoss.
and as Stretloth said, " I think some folks hear 'the call' but fear 'the way' "
also reminds me of something my father used to say when i was younger, "many are called... few are chosen."
basically, anyone can feel identified with the Mythos, anyone at all. however, only the disciplined can use the Old Ones to ascend beyond this pathetic human state.
anyone who actually tries to do something must have a certain amount of ego, ambition, and conviction. i temper the attutide that 'i can do no wrong' with constructive doubts about myself. somewhere between raging megalomaniac and the humble servant of Dread Cthulhu... that's where you'll probably find me.
as Darrick Dishaw, i'm not special. i'm not Godlike. in fact, i'm just a human being. but as the Cult of Cthulhu High Priest, my consciousness is connected to the Old Ones; i am bound to them.
those who join with me shall benefit; Cultists shall link with me and they will be as one with the Dark Gods!
Venger Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priestwww.CultofCthulhu.net
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Post by inkubus666 on Oct 13, 2006 11:00:40 GMT -6
yes, there is that... but i am also wondering about the Cthulhu Mythos as religious experience. if you feel a strong connection to the Great Old Ones, then try to examine and explain these feelings.
VS It seems that almost every day I become entranced in thoughts... What if this reality is the Coma Dreams of some one else... What if I die and wake up as a part of someone or something else’s consciousness.... It’s a feeling that grips my chest and brings pain to my body... I have come to the conclusion that this reality is the Dream of the "Big green guy" He awoke and destroyed everything... what if he awakens and erases our existence... What if we live behind the eyelids of Cthulhu! When we realize this maybe we can call that the call of Cthulhu. HAIL!!
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Post by herudissident on Oct 17, 2006 14:16:40 GMT -6
You know, I'm not sure I can buy into mythos or anything I can't truely interact with.......but.....
I have always been far too in tune with the world around me. Far too aware of just how dark a place this life really is behind the imagined beauty.
But more disturbing for me was all the things I see and feel. In dreams, while awake.....flashes of things that have passed.....things that have yet to pass......things I have seen come to pass exactly as I was shown.
So, I have no idea. But I keep an open mind and seek those who have had similar experiences. And those whom I get a certain feeling about.
I have never dabbled in the occult. Never practiced any forms of witchcraft, majick or sorcery. And yet.....when I truely wish to manifest something and hold it in the back of my thoughts, in my heart as a desire.......it does come to pass. As much BS as that sounds, people can and have manifested the divine energies. Because to face facts, we are energy. All of this is energy. We are part of the matter stream and as conscious entities, can influence the course and shape of things to come.
Manifest Destiny. Fate. The Call. Whatever we choose to believe, there is most definately something else here with us in life. And throughout time, we have always tried to paint a face onto it. To understand it. Where we have failed is in placing a kind face upon it. It is neither kind, nor noble. It is the void. the chaos of nature. All the dark little things we fight against inside ourselves.
Me? I'm personally at a point where I know my capabilities. And I have always challenged the rules and laws governing us all.
So to this end, I simply leave it at this :
If the divine is listening, if it has the will to interact on a material level, I call upon it, as it has enveloped me the whole journey within the shroud of my own thoughts.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 17, 2006 17:02:42 GMT -6
the Cthulhu Mythos is more of a workable template than a set in stone religious framework. i myself, use the Mythos as an integral facade for the many horrible shapes beyond this world.
some Cultists prefer a more Satanic paradigm or one which they have created.
VS
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