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Post by noladyke on Sept 26, 2007 3:04:02 GMT -6
If you walk the path this means you sometimes have to choose direction, sometimes someone can give you a clue what's behind the ender, but you never know for sure till you reach a rest point. Then you have some time to think which direction you prefer to take and you go on. Final destination can only be reached by death but the time of arrival is not free to choose. When you choose to die and you survive your attempt this means you are not ready, that you still have to do something around here. When you have some faith in your destination you will find the strength to arrive. Another kind of advice: we only have one body to use in this life, please take care of it.
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Post by jasmine on Oct 3, 2007 10:20:24 GMT -6
Ok this might be boring.....but I have been thinking about it for awhile. My husband is a big fan of Cthulhu and on his altar he has a statue of him as he is fascinated with dark and watery imagery. I myself have read and LOVED H.P. Lovecrafts works when I was younger and was deeply involved in the old Call of Cthulhu RPG. I never thought of it as more than that. I sleep in a room that has several altars set up in it. One for me, one for my husband and one other. I was rather upset 6 years ago when my husband came home and declared that he was putting Cthulhu on the altar and that was that. If I did not like sleeping with him looking at me.....I could turn the statue around. As I was well aware from playing the RPG....he causes madness! I had the hardest time sleeping in that room for the first 6 months (yes this is really silly) I kept feeling like he was watching me. I finally started making my peace with the image as it meant so very much to my man. I would dust it weekly and as I dusted it I came to like how it felt under my hands and slowly I came to enjoy looking at him before going to bed each night. Now....I do believe that I would feel "weird" to not sleep with him there in the dark looking at me. He has come to represent the unknown and the things that we as mere humans can only struggle to understand. I dont know about worshiping him....I have problems with giving up my Will to any diety. I prefer to "work" with them.....not sublimate myself to them. So I guess I find this all rather confusing. I feel a strange pull in Cthulhu's direction.....but I am uncertain wether or not it is really happening. I looked all over this site and it seemed that this was the appropriate place to post this.....if I am in error. Let me know.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 3, 2007 14:10:49 GMT -6
your post was anything but boring, Jaz! in fact, i adore personal reflections. the subtler the better.
there's something about seeing Dread Cthulhu in statue form... maybe it's knowing that some strange Cult in Lovecraft's magnum opus used His image during their blasphemous ceremonies?
i have a couple of small statues, but am most envious of the Bowen design sculpted by Stephen Hickman which came out many years ago. my friend, New Nonsense, has this one and i was staring at it by flickering candle light during the Kort'thsalis sigil charging ritual. maybe it was the incense, but that statue almost seemed alive! the smooth, alien contours definitely awoke something deep inside of me.
probably costs an arm and a tentacle today. yes, i feel the exact same way.
about the connotations of "worship"...
this is probably the most appropriate Cult of Cthulhu definition:
worship: reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by jasmine on Oct 10, 2007 10:18:32 GMT -6
Thank you for the reassurance....I looked around online for a pic of the statue we have. Its cool...but no where near as cool as the one you put up. I wonder why so many artists forget his wings? The one who created our statue did! Anyway, I digress. Still having problems sleeping...but now it seems as if I awakened something within myself and it is really relating to Cthulhu right now. Its confusing and I am trying to figure out what is going on. Images of him keep interrupting my sleep and this has never really happened this way before. It makes me feel like a newbie all over again. Oh well.....transformation is usually uncomfortable. I am going to continue my meditations on the subject and figure out what's up....I have the distinct feeling that looking within is the only way out.....ha ha. Jaz.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 10, 2007 10:37:13 GMT -6
no prob.
then help us to strengthen the Cult of Cthulhu paradigm!
indeed it is.
VS
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Post by jasmine on Oct 10, 2007 11:41:09 GMT -6
Help, in what way? Joining? I am in the process of deciding if I want to. I am very intrigued by your combined paradigm as I entered the magical world years ago as a Satanist and those paradigms really have continued in one way or another over the years even after I stopped believing in Satan as a god. How does one go about joining the Cult? I read the info on how to apply for the scholarship and somehow missed how one goes about joining normally. Jaz.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 10, 2007 12:15:12 GMT -6
that would be cool, but isn't necessary. keep doing what you're doing... exploring the subterranean lore which you've already tapped into.
here are some suggestions for helping the CoC paradigm:
1. keep reading Lovecraft and articles/essays/books about his writing.
2. tell others about HPL, our group, website, forum, etc.
3. practice Self-Remembering.
4. use the Mythos in your everyday magic.
5. visualize Cthulhu's Emerald Kingdom spreading throughout the world. tentacles erupting from the earth. rivers of bilious slime and crimson gore flowing as one!
finally, this page explains membership and contains the application questions.
cultofcthulhu.net/I-am-the-way-cthulhu1a.htm
official members receive the Cthulhu Cult PDF for free.
VS
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Post by jasmine on Oct 31, 2007 12:38:41 GMT -6
Thanks for the info. I forgot I had written this awhile ago. I have indeed been following your advice and felt a bit dumb when I realized I had sped right past the membership info when I first came on the site. snarf. As far as the Cthulhu dreams go....they have only increased in intensity and duration since they began. I will just have to wait and see what happens there.
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Post by amnesiac on Nov 4, 2007 5:28:06 GMT -6
Jasmin said : "I have problems with giving up my Will to any Deity. I prefer to "work" with them.....not sublimate myself to them. So I guess I find this all rather confusing. I feel a strange pull in Cthulhu's direction.....but I am uncertain whether or not it is really happening. "
I have the same kind of problem here, Jasmine! Since last night I have been seriously and for the first time considering whether or not to join the CoC. Giving up my Will in any way is a bit of a problem to me. But when I read Venger's 'I am the Way' link and I am sure I read it before, but this time it felt different. I really want to do something if you know what I mean. So perhaps I will first continue working on the Fourth Way principles and reading Lovecraft, also ordered a book 'The nightmare factory' by T. Ligotti and am looking forward to receive it. Still reading Sumerian Mythos as well, like usual, too much to do and to little time. You can also get back to me on my myspace page if you like, Jaz!
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Post by I AM the Way on Nov 4, 2007 11:17:32 GMT -6
your reading good stuff there, Valkyrie. those volumes will expand your awareness of Outside.
there's a different between giving up your individual Will and recognizing that there's something greater than yourself out there. forces exist which know more, are more, and can help the magician. showing reverence is not the same as sublimating oneself.
the Cultist is a master, not a slave. however, that doesn't mean we shouldn't honor the Great Old Ones.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by jasmine on Nov 6, 2007 14:01:56 GMT -6
your reading good stuff there, Valkyrie. those volumes will expand your awareness of Outside.
there's a different between giving up your individual Will and recognizing that there's something greater than yourself out there. forces exist which know more, are more, and can help the magician. showing reverence is not the same as sublimating oneself.
the Cultist is a master, not a slave. however, that doesn't mean we shouldn't honor the Great Old Ones.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest I like what you are saying about individual Will, I want to preface what I say next with the fact that I respect you Venger, and your philosophies and I have no interest in starting a fight or coming across as disrespectful to you personally or your wonderful site. The one thing I have hit a wall over and over again with is diety and how much are we supposed to worship them anyway? If we are striving for godhood then it flys in the face of reason to accept anything as being greater than ourselves.....different yes. But greater? I dont know. How do we know the GOO are greater than us? By thier very nature they are unknown.....thier wants and desires are something we can only guess at. I can respect them as I respect other dieties that I have worked with as having powers that I do not currently possess. But!!! I feel personally that diety chooses to work with or through us because we have something that they want and do not currently posess. So.....with that being my perspective then it becomes very difficult to worship at all. It would be more along the lines of an agreement of mutual respect and mutual usage of each others diverging abilities. I understand that this is my perspective...and it is one amongst many.
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Post by I AM the Way on Nov 6, 2007 14:39:27 GMT -6
good points. i think there is a bit of symbiosis involved between the thing worshiped and the worshiper.
as for Godlike entities being on par with humanity (or even select individuals), i that's mostly wishful thinking. certain humans have the potential to become like the Old Ones, but no one is there yet... by far. if we strive for Godhood, then it makes sense to learn from those who are more advanced than us, entities who are superior to ourselves. the Cult of Cthulhu chooses to see those beings as Lovecraft's monstrous, alien deities.
anyone can view the A:O just as they wish. no one has to worship anything, although i believe it is wise to honor Those Who Have Come Before.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by jasmine on Nov 6, 2007 16:02:47 GMT -6
Thankyou, I appreciate the answer and it gives me food for thought. I guess I was not clear on one thing. I am not elevating myself to the A:O level. I was trying to figure out a way to express the confusion of worshiping anything at all, at the same time as thinking about the wether we could even understand what the A:O are, want and or are thinking. I am not dismissing the very fact that Cthulhu is and has called to me in some way. It is a confusing subject within my mind and I am grateful to be able to discuss it in group format. I guess it boils down to faith....which I personally lack in anything but myself and magic. Still working on the other aspects.
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Post by deathcult91 on Nov 8, 2007 21:25:13 GMT -6
Although, I have not been contacted by The Ancients in dreams, I feel their presence in my life very strongly. I know their would be a void in my life if it did not involve the ancient ones. They represent my true self, I believe to be rebellion, hate, anger, and brooding. Awaiting their time to be avenged.
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Post by jasmine on Nov 28, 2007 11:21:10 GMT -6
anyone can view the A:O just as they wish. no one has to worship anything, although i believe it is wise to honor Those Who Have Come Before.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High PriestI took a bit of time responding to this as I did not wish to be flip in any way. I do have a major stumbling block in my ability to give it up to a deity. To use an example I have long loved Lucifer or Satan as you would have him. I ended up leaving the CoS because I believed that I had to give it all up to him and I simply seem to be unable to do it. I agree with you on the respect thing. I have no problems with believing that deities exist. I do have a problem with worshiping them. I cannot bring myself to do it. I tried again and again and failed. The best I have been able to cobble together as far as "faith" goes is that I can work with deity as the voodoo practitioner does and engender a relationship that is more of having a Patron and we (the deity and I) have a mutual exchange of goods and services. I have never not believed in magic. So that is a kind of faith. I am also not saying that you are asking me to worship. I am hoping to come to some kind of mental tidy where deity and my life are concerned. I have had deities come out of the woodwork and contact me out of the blue. Cthulhu being one and Selquet being another. Both are somewhat cthonic in nature. Why is this happening? I have altars to them and I respect them and work with them......but why do they come to me? Do they want me to worship them? I don't get that impression.....but they do seem to want something. agh it makes my brain ache. Well, I hope I did not come across as too argumentative.....I am sincerely confused and uncertain right now. Time will tell.
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Nov 29, 2007 10:38:35 GMT -6
I felt a change was needed,I felt blind,fooled,idiotic,when I had left the dark side for the "light" right hand paths and a dream I had while I was asleep drew me back to this dark horrid place! A dream, of having chanting Cthulhu and these dark beings that were trying to shred me to pieces fled when I chanted that name.After that I woke up feeling a bit uplifted,a dark ecstasy of sorts.
This is when I knew I was being called, I feel the call in my spirit and mind, its quiet a loud call if you ask me.And then that is when I immediately remembered Venger Satanis, I consider myself a friend,supporter and follower of the Devil, to become more than being a mere human.To be something that could only be unfathomable,unspeakable,ichorous,demonic,etc. and what can I say? I always been a strange bizarred person.
So I say that I KNOW I heard the Call of Cthulhu and that I am going down that path, taking a journey into the dark side of the unknown,into the Abyss I go!
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 6, 2007 15:59:46 GMT -6
I do not really know where to begin, so I'll start with my first Lovecraft experiences. I've been into mythology and magic(k) as long as I can remember, not as a practicing sorceror of course.
The first book I read, The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, was a thing of such VASTNESS the kind of which I'd never quite experienced before... I was maybe 13 years old back then. A few years later I read all the HPL Omnibuses in a row, shivering with terror (back then I really FELT it, nowadays it is different as I know the plots) story after story, unable to quit reading. That's when all the Mythos stuff was implanted in my mind, or at least partly awakened from slumber.
Then came a couple of drug-fuelled adolescent years, which instead of expanding my consciousness, seemed to have more of a limiting effect on my mind, since now that I've quit messing up my head I can grasp "Cultist" things way more easily. Psychedelic/dissociative experiences however do seem to break or expand certain logical, practical borders within the mind which can be useful, but also very harmful to some...
About two years ago I started getting more and more into "real" occultism through a wyrd-sister of mine, and a year ago I had a dream about strange jaguar-like creatures from a faraway planet who told me that my fate was to connect everything. That sounds fucking megalomaniac and silly, but around that time something happened in my mind and I started really believing in these strange things.
Then I began listening to HPL audiobooks while sleeping, and heard the Call...
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 7, 2007 11:30:27 GMT -6
nice introduction. thanks for joining the CoC forum. i don't think your dream about that jaguar creature was silly or megalomaniacal at all. many strange beings communicate with us during dreams, meditations, scrying, ritual, creative trances, etc. this activity is to be encouraged.
and he was right. everything is connected.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 8, 2007 4:21:36 GMT -6
I don't think of it as megalomaniac and silly, but it sure can sound like that to some. Jaguars were, and are, very very sacred & godly animals in some Middle/South American cultures.
Thanks for creating this nice forum for all of us diverse miscreants to gather and scheme!
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Post by jasmine on Dec 13, 2007 12:43:05 GMT -6
I have obviously been having my difficulties with belief. I think I have managed to reconcile them. I have been called and that's that. I can fight it all I want....but it does not stop the truth....for good or ill I set myself upon this path and I am not looking back any more.I refuse to sit here worrying about it for one more moment. My most sincere thanks to all of you for your help. hee hee hee hee hee!
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 13, 2007 13:16:45 GMT -6
Hee hee hee indeed! ;D
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Post by ethermind on Dec 13, 2007 21:53:21 GMT -6
I will tell you of my dream, and my call.
The dream started out simple enough, like a movie almost. Scenes of people, different people going about their lives; cops, buisnessmen, stay at home mothers, etc. When not too far into the dream it seemed as if everybodys television came flashing with the news of these strange alien creatures that had begun to infect people, but nobody seemed to want to tell how or even knew why.
Not longer all this had happened, chaos began to break out in this world I had dreamed up, or had become attached to. People ran at faceless nothings(Seemingly) and it took some time before my consciousness could make sense of it all.
They were running from these small, jumping eyeball-like creatures, bouncing as if on their own with no real bounce at all, more like controlled up and down movement from the optic nerve like thing running out the back of them. The eye-creatures were slightly larger than a human eye, and yellow as an addicts own eye.
The creatures themselves upon finding a victim that was unlucky or helpless, would jump into their face and plop the victims eye forcefully from their own heads. and lodge themselves into the eyesocket, then the optic nerve like string would shoot backwards and chop and reassemble the brain and that person would become the host to a primitive, but cunning new kind of being.
Now, before I get to far into that, I will skip on and get to the part that matters to me. But that will be next post. I have to go and releive a freind of mine from a bad situation. I promise you all I will finish this as soon as I have the chance.
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Post by Gish on Dec 13, 2007 22:14:42 GMT -6
I woke up one day and decided to look for a cult, in a few minutes I had found this one and I decided that this was what I had been searching for.
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Post by ethermind on Dec 13, 2007 22:54:45 GMT -6
Here, I am back, sooner than expected.
Anyways, after these things would reassemble your brains and enthrall you, the victim would immediately begin to chase down those not like itself.
Later on in this dream, there were a group of people that had survived much of the initial onslaught/assimilation. The dream had run itself many times, and they seemed the most likely not to die everytime. After running, and running, these people found themselves in a very cave-like, post-apocolyptic underground city, and I myself, in an instant my conscious thought became one of them. A blonde haired man, middle aged, average height, almost looked like Dennis Leary. Anyways, trifles.
After a time meandering, losing the group I was with previously, I came upon a collosal wall, which as I pressed my hand against it, became apparantly, a door. A door probably the height of an average to tall skyscraper, What I saw/heard inside was my call.
I can describe it something like this, Imagine a infinitely huge room, squarish, but not quite...rightly perspective. Inside of this room sat a behemoth monstrosity, like a bloated dragon, much like Cthulhu, but instead of the traditional dragonesque head, the neck elongated, and had a worm-like head, with a circular maw of teeth, and surrounding the sphincter of a mouth, were millions of gleaming, multi-hued eyes, and each one I still remember had the same strange "uncolor" about it.
The God-beast itself sat looking into a wall of changing colors and images, images of an outside world, our world I think. It pressed its face against the wall, and it seemed to suck the images into its consciousness.
More later, I must leave you.
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Post by money232 on Dec 14, 2007 2:12:32 GMT -6
Cult of Cthulhu High Priest Venger Satanis scares me
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 14, 2007 2:27:21 GMT -6
It's good to have scary friends.
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Post by ethermind on Dec 14, 2007 18:42:27 GMT -6
And now to finish what happened in my calling.
The beast-God DID place its will upon me, the crushing weight of it all, so much that I could not stand to bear it, my body I thought just simply could not hold it. And it thought at me. louder than any noise.
I KNOW it told me to go amongst the children of this earth. To spread myself unto the furthest reaches of the globe, to gather information of the world around me, and send this information back into its gaping maw. To also spread myself genetically.
The message was to gather,infect,gather,infect.
I had a yellow eye.
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Post by edrickulfhidinn on Dec 16, 2007 14:33:46 GMT -6
Greetings, all. VS, I appologize for not posting sooner, but I hope all is well. But I digress....
Since I was young, I have always felt myself drawn to darker powers, what the christlings would refer to as "evil". As soon as i came of age, I began to explore the world of the occult, the works of HP Lovecraft, and the Necronomicon. Soon, something was awoken in myself, my true self, if you will. Without going into too many details here (I'll do that in the appropriate thread), I'll just say that I have been called by those that dwell in the great abyss, and I believe Cthulhu to be one of their forms, very much like an aspect or incarnation.
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 16, 2007 15:33:56 GMT -6
glad you made it.
VS
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Post by cthulhulives7384 on Dec 17, 2007 14:35:13 GMT -6
Wonderful explanations, Venger Satanis.
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