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Post by sin on Oct 20, 2011 19:17:36 GMT -6
I apologise, Cora'Sahn. I commented more quickly than I should have. I still believe that taxes help keep the rich from getting richer, etc., but my personal experience probably does not in fact apply to everyone everywhere. The idea of voluntary poverty just to pay less taxes is still illogical, though, so I doubt I'll truly wrap my head around it till I meet someone that lazy. Behind-the-scenes social control through magick? Sounds like a much better idea. All visible power gets you is blame for when things go wrong.
Acknowleged. Now you are catching on. There is a good reason the FBI investigate any individual or organization that is influencing culture at a rapid rate. It's a preventive measure to stop mass hysteria before it starts, to nip trends in the bud, and to allow for more government control of the consumer mass.
It takes the Sly man, to know when to influence and use subtle methods that aren't so easily pin-pointed, so you start small and let it resonate outward... From YOU.
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 20, 2011 22:10:48 GMT -6
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Ronald makes some good points here. Where the LHP fits in to collectivism will be a hard sell since the LHP is almost a return to a governmentless environment as I see it. At least that's what I would look forward too as a LHP member. Perhaps a loose council of leaders that can be voted out the second a majority vote is taken. Democracy seems to be extremely important to the LHP, am I right? Or is there something that can make up for the lack of the lowly being involved in the politics? Which seems to be necessary to the longevity of a movement?
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 21, 2011 10:47:47 GMT -6
America missed there chance at solving their money problems by not forfeiting their debt payments this year; if they had, the country would have outside help. Also USA should implement a plan like China and Russia to move people out of smaller areas or the people in smaller areas should move somewhere else and look for a job (it is called individual responsibility so the individual and stop relying on the govt so much if you don't want to move and know there are no jobs in your area due to the small size) and how about the govt set up a programme to help people relocate to other areas to find jobs. LD
I don't think finding jobs is a matter of relocating to a better region. Some cities are probably in worse shape than others, but people are out of work all over. And not just in the United States! We can blame the corporations, but perhaps we should also lay blame upon the employees who were content to exist as corporate drones for years before getting laid off.
Awake!
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Post by sin on Oct 21, 2011 10:59:11 GMT -6
! Ronald makes some good points here. Where the LHP fits in to collectivism will be a hard sell since the LHP is almost a return to a governmentless environment as I see it.
That's what we call HOPE. You look to the LHP as a representative of ideals you strive towards, and the hope keeps you going. Hope can be a motivator.
There are tons of individuals who use the LHP in some way, shape or form. Some want complete anarchy, while others want a 'true Democracy' all the while writing that the Consumer Mass is bascially ignorant and stupid. So, is this what the LHP is striving towards? Celebrating mediocrity?
People want what they want, it doesn't matter if it lacks logic, sense or rationale. If I had to rely on my 'peers' for anything, I might as well just put a gun to my head and get on with death already. I'd sooner die than live with the asshat next door making decisions for me.
The lowly aren't involved in politics, because they are not interested in learning what politicking can accomplish. What politics are, used for, how it works, how you can get in on it. The general consensus opinion is: That's the other guy's job.
Everything is a 'movement' these days, even if moving actualizes very little (or nothing). The Aztecs sacrificed every day to keep things moving. To ensure the sun would rise. When the Spanish invaded, and the sacrifices stopped - they had to realize that things move in spite of them. Perhaps if they were moving in a direction that gave them more power - they could have made the Spanish wish they'd never met them and things would be different in Meso-America.
The same could be true for the American people. If they weren't so distracted by cults of personality, allowing themselves to be stirred up with catch phrases and another man's idealism - they might actually pay attention to what power they do have, and how they can acquire more of it.
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Post by Drizzle Drazzle on Oct 21, 2011 13:37:37 GMT -6
 People ought to grow more of their own food. If they wish to survive, that is. Thing about sustainability...see, if something is unsustainable then it can not possibly continue forever, by definition. This is the way to independence. Grow your own food, build your own houses, stuff like that. that's my perspective--I see agri-business and western societies addiction to oil and petro chemicals as BIG problems. I was pleased at Occupy Philly to see intelligent and hardworking people there promoting and educating on the subject of permaculture. I was annoyed (tho not surprised) to see other people..... demanding healthcare and other gov't hand-outs. Whether or not you agree with me entirely, the wise would still be learning to fend for themselves and saving seeds. I'm talking about "plan b" or "when the stuff hits the fan" type scenarios. Whether you wish to preserve the environment, escape corporate/gov't control/survive doomsday, whatever, self reliance and self-sufficiency seem particularly important these days. ************** The Occupy Movement....finally, finally, finally. A glimmer (the nariest glimmer!) of behavior beyond the typical complacency. The Bush years....everyone was too scared to stand up. The past three years...we expected Obama to make it all better. Well, he can't (do we really know that he even wants to?). |
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Post by fritzneess on Oct 21, 2011 13:47:44 GMT -6
Democracy only gives an illusion of power and freedom for the populous. In fact most within the populous are insufficiently perceptive to comprehend a problem let alone to envisage a solution. The net result is the unbridled exploitation of the populous who may complain yet accept such treatment. The real power and profit remains securely in the hands of that demographic strata above two per cent.
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Oct 21, 2011 19:34:39 GMT -6
Well in that system, I'd be maybe medium rank, possibly above it... So what about dimwitted and stupid people then? Do they just not get any freedom? (I'm not sure that's such a bad idea so much as just inquiring about it mind you!)
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Oct 21, 2011 19:39:12 GMT -6
Also, I was no drone at my last job! I assisted in innovation and process improvement all the time! Did they recognize my talents? Hell no! I was among the first to get the axe! Bastards!
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Oct 21, 2011 19:49:18 GMT -6
In any case, I'm not sure that most people are really ready for this sort of thing. I push forward (or attempt to push) movements on Facebook all the time....
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Post by wren on Oct 21, 2011 23:36:38 GMT -6
People ought to grow more of their own food. If they wish to survive, that is. Thing about sustainability...see, if something is unsustainable then it can not possibly continue forever, by definition. This is the way to independence. Grow your own food, build your own houses, stuff like that. that's my perspective--I see agri-business and western societies addiction to oil and petro chemicals as BIG problems. I was pleased at Occupy Philly to see intelligent and hardworking people there promoting and educating on the subject of permaculture. I was annoyed (tho not surprised) to see other people..... demanding healthcare and other gov't hand-outs. Whether or not you agree with me entirely, the wise would still be learning to fend for themselves and saving seeds. I'm talking about "plan b" or "when the stuff hits the fan" type scenarios. Whether you wish to preserve the environment, escape corporate/gov't control/survive doomsday, whatever, self reliance and self-sufficiency seem particularly important these days. That is exactly what I agree with. I've heard many (uninformed) people complaining that the government is too big, that we were better off on our own, but they still demand the government to take care of them. Hypocracy at its finest. As far as I see it, the situation boils down to this: if you can't work in the system, work around it. They could sustain themselves, and should at least try. If OWS gains a direction, I can only hope it leads them towards self-reliance. AWAKE! Wren |
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 22, 2011 10:21:38 GMT -6
Absolutely! That would take most of the danger out of our future where eventually shit's gonna break down.
I digg! The OWS is a chance for us to create our own voting block as well as a hive mind(put gently) that melts ideas. That's all you do at these events is listen to others ideas. Yet there is cohesion. It's pretty wild!
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Post by frateroculus on Oct 22, 2011 13:57:15 GMT -6
Venger, saying that Obama is an anti-establishment president seems to me to be about as sane as saying that Citibank is a charitable organization.
Obama is about as much a catalyst for "change" as George Bush was, about as much catalyst for change as contracting a disease. And he's about as much a catalyst for "hope" as receiving communion at a Catholic church and then getting ass-fucked by Father O'Flannery.
We had a man spend trillions and get us into a deficit, and now we have this guy to finish us off with socialism, by spending more invisible money, devaluing the already wrecked currency. The government has no money, because nobody is paying taxes, because nobody has jobs, because the companies are fucked, because nobody is spending anything, because prices are too high, because the currency is fucked, because we spent all the money, because it all got sent overseas with the jobs and outsourcing and got paid out to these housing companies when "brilliant" social programs decided everyone in America should get automatic housing loans that nobody in America could pay back, because we keep printing more money to get us out of this and the "circulating it" by buying bonds from Goldman Sachs at hugely inflated prices, because Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan and Citibank own Mr Obama and the rest of the government - so they can continue to sop up the remaining little value like a sponge while the whole shithouse comes down.
Obama is a real catalyst for change alright - Get ready to see some change manifesting.
"Rock and Roll adolescent hoodlums storm the streets of all nations. They rush into the Louvre and throw acid in the Mona Lisa's face. They open zoos, insane asylums, prisons, burst water mains with air hammers, chop the floor out of passenger plane lavatories, shoot out lighthouses, file elevator cables to one thin wire, turn sewers into the water supply, throw sharks and sting rays, electric eels and candiru into swimming pools (the candiru is a small eel-like fish or worm about one-quarter inch through and two inches long patronizing certain rivers of ill repute in the Greater Amazon Basin, will dart up your prick or your asshole or a woman's cunt faute de mieux, and hold himself there by sharp spines with precisely what motives is not known since no one has stepped forward to observe the candiru's life-cycle in situ), in nautical costumes ram the Queen Mary full speed into New York Harbor, play chicken with passenger planes and buses, rush into hospitals in white coats carrying saws and axes and scalpels three feet long; throw paralytics out of iron lungs (mimic their suffocations flopping out on the floor and rolling their eyes up), administer injections with bicycle pumps, disconnect artificial kidneys, saw a woman in half with a two-man surgical saw, they drive herds of squealing pigs into the Curb, they shit on the floor of the United Nations and wipe their ass with treaties, pacts, alliances."
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Post by frateroculus on Oct 22, 2011 14:05:17 GMT -6
The bottom line is that we are months away from hitting the critical mass of our deficit point. At that point, the United States will exist in name only, as a subsidiary of China and whoever else can buy it up at a bargain price.
The American people are too abysmally fucking retarded to understand cause and effect. Therefore, they will not take pay cuts, they will not cut any programs. The federal government will continue to increase or make tiny cuts that will have no effect, so that the cock-sucking politicians can please their constituents and their corporate puppet masters.
Smilingly, America will continue living on until people have to bring wheelbarrows of cash to buy loaves of bread, and anarchy overwhelms even martial law. Then America's investors like China and so forth will save the day to prevent their investments from being destroyed.
The world will sink into a global recession, and American wealth will be redistributed to the rest of the planet as we experience a period of die-offs and a type of global corporate oligarchy.
"Hope" and "Change" really worked great. Too bad we haven't had a real president for decades. It's too bad, the Empire was great while it lasted. The American experiment may shortly be over, in one way or another.
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Post by frateroculus on Oct 22, 2011 14:07:35 GMT -6
Even if Ron Paul could somehow win and get consent to cut out 5 branches of government entirely, trillions of dollars, it would still be a long hard road to get out of this massive debt. And that would completely destroy our country's infrastructure, although it would be better than the alternative. When excising a cancer, it is better to remove too much than too little - and sometimes it can be a very painful process.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 23, 2011 9:20:03 GMT -6
Venger, saying that Obama is an anti-establishment president seems to me to be about as sane as saying that Citibank is a charitable organization. Obama is about as much a catalyst for "change" as George Bush was, about as much catalyst for change as contracting a disease. And he's about as much a catalyst for "hope" as receiving communion at a Catholic church and then getting ass-fucked by Father O'Flannery. We had a man spend trillions and get us into a deficit, and now we have this guy to finish us off with socialism, by spending more invisible money, devaluing the already wrecked currency. The government has no money, because nobody is paying taxes, because nobody has jobs, because the companies are fucked, because nobody is spending anything, because prices are too high, because the currency is fucked, because we spent all the money, because it all got sent overseas with the jobs and outsourcing and got paid out to these housing companies when "brilliant" social programs decided everyone in America should get automatic housing loans that nobody in America could pay back, because we keep printing more money to get us out of this and the "circulating it" by buying bonds from Goldman Sachs at hugely inflated prices, because Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan and Citibank own Mr Obama and the rest of the government - so they can continue to sop up the remaining little value like a sponge while the whole shithouse comes down. Obama is a real catalyst for change alright - Get ready to see some change manifesting.
I don't think our economic problems are as bad as you're suggesting. Of course, they'd be a lot better if the Republicans / Tea Party weren't deliberately obstructing his attempt at creating jobs and taxing the top 2% at a normal rate to improve the country's infrastructure. Are you going to blame Obama for Greece too? For the rest of Europe's economic decline? Aren't you at the very least going to give Obama credit for having Bin Laden killed, helping to overthrow Gadhafi, or getting the U.S. closer to a workable Universal Health Care program?
Ok, if Barack Obama is so horrible in your view, then what do you recommend? I'm serious. What's your plan?
Awake!
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Post by sin on Oct 23, 2011 13:14:06 GMT -6
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 24, 2011 9:48:33 GMT -6
www.rediff.com/money/2003/apr/25spec.htmThis is what I was looking for on a "point system" for citizens. I know this sounds completely crazy, but I find it some what reasonable. Now should every company practice this to it's maximum & have no safety net for people it gets rid of? Maybe not; Or are there lesser versions or better safety nets that can be put in place to allow for this sorta cut throat world? Maybe. I'm saying I agree with it to some extent which is weird because when i worked at Wal-Mart, I was always teetering between the 70 & the 10 on a constant basis. I'm the guy that prefers just to be left alone in my own fantasy world as I work. So this system would really bother me, but I also think it might have been more entertaining for me if I knew the risks. I wouldn't go to work in a bad mood with my earphones on like I usually did:) The extra stress might have made things more interesting for me, who knows. The other thing about it is that if you did get the boot, perhaps unemployment would active without any hassle! Ultimately you could just latter protest the whole fucking company if the public didn't Digg it. Being rehired next year would or should be easy maybe. There's ways of fitting it in I think. How this could work on a citizen scale is beyond me, but could it work? It does suck that one guy lays around on welfare doing drugs & stealing for a living while the other works hard,pays taxes & obeys the laws & their both considered citizens. Something could be put in place lol. What do you guys say? Awake!
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Post by sin on Oct 24, 2011 11:30:26 GMT -6
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Post by sin on Oct 24, 2011 12:07:31 GMT -6
I would say, if we applied this system to the current membership body of this forum alone, what ratio do you believe would be left?
CS
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Post by frateroculus on Oct 24, 2011 13:36:51 GMT -6
I didn't say Obama wasn't a catalyst for change - I said he was a catalyst for change in the same sense that a disease would be a catalyst for change. Maybe from a philosophical point of view you could say that yes, chaos breeds growth or change, or being harmed in one way or another might make you stronger. If this cancer is rooted out and humanity survives, perhaps it can learn from these mistakes and become stronger, although humanity learning from the past seems like a far fetched idea.
Bush is absolutely responsible for our financial state, as much as a president could be anyways. As is Obama. Really, what we're looking at here in my eyes is a one-two punch. A complete and total draining of American coffers for special interest and corporate puppetmasters like Haliburton that made billions and earned the president and his yes-men millions in stock, followed up by the Obama policies out projects and corporate wellfare taken out on credit, pushing the country closer to the terminal debt spiral which will be occuring in just a few months.
Yes, I believe the two are largely interchangable on issues that have a large effect on the country - they only differ on superficial issues like gay marriage and other things typical of republicans and democrats. Like cattle we have the belief in "hope" and "change" and some sort of "choice."
It's like being free to choose which of two gangs you want to get gang-raped by. And then eight years later, you elect the opposite gang to rape you. Then after another eight years, you've forgotten that the first gang raped you in the first place, so you elect them again, and they exploit you in rotation.
In reality these two puppet hands fighting each other are held by the same people, the financiers that have funded both sides of each World War, like Gore's sick fucking family working for soviet spies Armand Hammer, giving the USSR a congressional seat in the USA. Or corporations like Brown Brothers Harriman (with Bush's grandfather at the helm) and JP Morgan, filthy moneymasters who amassed fortunes selling weapons to both sides, playing the market, designing consentration camps and accessories for mass killing, from german treasures and from glasses, watches, jewelery and gold pulled from millions of jewish teeth. The kind of shit people want to publish books about, but don't, for fear of their families lives. These are the people and the families representing you.
I'm not really blaming Obama for anything, as he has no real power other than the power to convince you that he is running the show, and temporarily pacifying and placating people with "hope" and "change" while his Citibank paymasters ream every last cent from you. You think George Bush Jr was running America? He couldn't even tie his shoelaces together.
Certainly some of these alternatives are horrendous when we look at other countries. But when we go outside of our comfortable suburbs, when we leave the luxeries of talking with the few inteligent people on the planet over the internet - suddenly so much philosophy and idealism and ideology is moot. Suddenly we're confronted with a world of people who do not understand, and do not wish to even if they could. But nonetheless, as Americans with some sort of intelectual ability, we have to look around us and be sickened by what we see, regardless of if we're still better off than most countries, we still know fundamentally, at least intuitively, if not intelectually, that what is occuring here is wrong.
How is Obama going to create jobs? The country has no money to pay them with. Should we print off more funny-money to pay them? Will corporations hire people? They don't have any money to hire people, nobody's buying anything! We can keep printing off money to keep us afloat, lowering our credit rating more, and more, and more, until there's just nothing left and we default.
Taxing the top 2% is fine. Great. You can tax the top 98%. Tax 100, it doesn't matter, it's not going to even make the slightest dent in what we've done. The only solution, other than to allow it to continue is to make HUGE fucking cuts RIGHT NOW. That's it. And it can't be done because everybody wants to hang on to their little pathetic lives until the whole shithouse goes down.
Again, who is going to pay for this universal health care?! We can't even pay medicare or social security! I agree that would be great. But where's it coming from?
It's so comforting to be able to blame something on a political party and elect the opposite one so that they can do a number on your cornhole. But sooner or later we're going to have to accept that the system itself is due for an overhaul.
I suggest Ron Paul without a question, as he is the only person who would remotely be able to go without huge amounts of pandering to corporations and constituants who would have even a tiny teeny fragmentary chance of winning a nomination. Even his trillions of dollars in cuts STILL might not do the task, but it'd would be a last heroic effort to save us from what's coming down the road over the next 20 years.
As for Ghaddafi and bin Ladin, I don't know Obama's role in either of these things, although I do know that our inteligence has been working on these things for quite a long time. Bill Clinton in fact had the option to terminate bin Ladin, but felt that it was simply not fair and equitable.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 24, 2011 14:47:52 GMT -6
www.rediff.com/money/2003/apr/25spec.htmThis is what I was looking for on a "point system" for citizens. I know this sounds completely crazy, but I find it some what reasonable. Now should every company practice this to it's maximum & have no safety net for people it gets rid of? Maybe not; Or are there lesser versions or better safety nets that can be put in place to allow for this sorta cut throat world? Maybe. I'm saying I agree with it to some extent which is weird because when i worked at Wal-Mart, I was always teetering between the 70 & the 10 on a constant basis. I'm the guy that prefers just to be left alone in my own fantasy world as I work. So this system would really bother me, but I also think it might have been more entertaining for me if I knew the risks. I wouldn't go to work in a bad mood with my earphones on like I usually did:) The extra stress might have made things more interesting for me, who knows. The other thing about it is that if you did get the boot, perhaps unemployment would active without any hassle! Ultimately you could just latter protest the whole fucking company if the public didn't Digg it. Being rehired next year would or should be easy maybe. There's ways of fitting it in I think. How this could work on a citizen scale is beyond me, but could it work? It does suck that one guy lays around on welfare doing drugs & stealing for a living while the other works hard,pays taxes & obeys the laws & their both considered citizens. Something could be put in place lol. What do you guys say? Awake!
As for this forum, the least active users yank themselves by their lack of participation. Incentives are added motivation, but doesn't nature create a 20:70:10 ratio all by itself?
By His loathsome tentacles,
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Post by sin on Oct 24, 2011 15:38:50 GMT -6
It won't ever work in this country. It's like socialism, looks good on paper but can never work in practical application.
There are too many variables to consider such as trends in the economy and productivity, unions, policy, etc.
As for the least-active users, why aren't they yanked from the forum for their lack of participation? What good is a member count, if you can't count active members?
In addition, I'd like to see this forum more accessible to the general public. Closed forums, are never really a good idea in the public information age. Can we make it public?
CS
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Post by chunksofstuff on Oct 24, 2011 19:44:05 GMT -6
Greed, is natural and all people are greedy in some way, even the most humble of monks is greedy.
Greed is not the issue, its Envy. Problem is, the 99% aren't envious enough to work as hard as possible to acquire as much, if not more for themselves.
The logic of "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer", is flawed.
www.tenbiggestmyths.net/ideology/marxist.communism/10a.htm
Capitalism isn't the issue, its man's drive towards materialism. One of the biggest criticisms of footage taken of the Protesters is that the vast majority are seen with ipods, iphones, and other material goods which drive capitalism. Man's attitude towards materialism is what drives this society.
I'm reminded of a quote from Bram Stoker's Dracula: (spoken by Van Helsing) "Civilzation and Sypillization have progressed together."
Plaques evolve along with civilized societies. The plague of man is widely accepted because this is the way things are, its acceptable. We are within the matrix of civilized society and its either you evolve with the system or you perish. Those that survive just fine, are typically the EVIL, while those that are barely hanging on by a thread are the victims.
The economy has always been a fluctuating agent, and its not just the local economy either. Things are interconnected on a global scale.
I think its great that people are ready to force the hand of change, they are talking, gathering, but what are they doing to actualize change? This question remains, for me.
CS
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 24, 2011 20:07:17 GMT -6
LMAO. Well here are some options for the 10% that can't make it.
If you get fired, here are some options:
#1 You go on unemployment till your back in the game.
#2 You hand your self off to a religious organization.
#3 Give up & try your hand with the streets.
All are fine with me & here's how I'd handle them.
#1 The EDD Courts(Employment Development Department)demand you either find a new job(like they do) or allow you to "donate" your time to charitable organization(Church's,soup kitchens Red Cross etc), till you find a job.
You are also assigned a probation officer/"Sponsor" who is either from a Corporation or the Government(which ever is better) & they visit you every so often. If you are found not complying on either the Job search or the donating your time, you can be prosecuted for "laziness" lol.
#2 This speaks for it's self since you'll be expected to be quite active by your organization.
#3 Live off your family & friends till you got none left & your forced in to crime. Which is fine because we'll catch you eventually & then just put you to work in a chain gang building things for those that do work.
Since most of this is a "social service", it sucks that the government would have to pay for it. But hey! At least were making them do something! SOMETHING!
How unconstitutional this all is I don't know, but I am having fun writing it. Jokes aside, tell me if what I'm talking about is too totalitarian or barbaric, why don't we put our convicts to work instead of sitting in a cell? I've been to jail a couple times & hated sitting in that damn box all day with my crazy, homeless room mate who had nicotine fits till it caused him to punch & kick the door all night till I had to threaten him. I would have much rather preferred to sign up for some sorta work program to keep me busy.
Awake!
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Post by frateroculus on Oct 25, 2011 2:24:07 GMT -6
I assume my last post was tooooo long. It was pretty long. Reply none the less!
If you start knocking off people in the lower classes, soon you'll be knocking off people in the middle classes, and then soon everyone will live in a paranoid distopia until there won't be anybody left to knock off.
The way up is the way down
Kiss the goat bitch, hail Satan and Hail
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Post by sin on Oct 25, 2011 6:40:02 GMT -6
There is a link to materialism, sure. Both Greed and Envy need not always be linked to materialism. There is plenty to be greedy towards and envious of that is not driven by materialism, but instead what we desire to become. There are attributes that others hold, that you may want for yourself. This is pretty common in idol worship, and mentoring vis-a-vis a role-model.
Elementary discussion? Perhaps, but if you have more extensive knowledge on the subject, or deeper insights than my own - why not share them than exit here?
CS
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 25, 2011 11:23:03 GMT -6
It won't ever work in this country. It's like socialism, looks good on paper but can never work in practical application.
There are too many variables to consider such as trends in the economy and productivity, unions, policy, etc.
As for the least-active users, why aren't they yanked from the forum for their lack of participation? What good is a member count, if you can't count active members?
In addition, I'd like to see this forum more accessible to the general public. Closed forums, are never really a good idea in the public information age. Can we make it public?
CS
Why don't we just delete old accounts? I don't want to spend a dozen hours going over all of the registered users and pruning the dead branches. If I could just click a button and make accounts that haven't posted in the last 6 months disappear, I'd do it in a second.
Forcing people to log-in doesn't stop the public from being able to read our posts. As our guest numbers show, there are plenty of gawkers. But making logging-in unnecessary takes away what little accountability people on the internet have. However, if others want me to make the forum public again (I try it out a couple times a year without much benefit), then I shall.
Awake!
VS
p.s. Who is going to step up to the trapezoid and donate $7 to make November advertisement-free? See the link on the bottom of every forum page for details.
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 25, 2011 18:39:28 GMT -6
At 6:37 you can see me in a black suit coat with a blue KMFDM tshirt holding a blue & white protest sign as I talk to one of the Tea Partiers. It's to bad that these guys came to start shit cause we could really use their input & alliance. I like a lot of what the Tea Party stands for, it's just to bad that they can't be seen with us.
I was in the march coming back that confronts them. Mark Dice lives in my area so I'll be running into him again:)
Awake!
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Post by lokidreaming on Oct 25, 2011 20:44:12 GMT -6
YAWN
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Post by sin on Oct 25, 2011 20:55:40 GMT -6
From what I understand, anyone using an internet ready cell phone can't see the links. The FB ap doesn't always allow access, or allow a person to register. I'm not sure what benefit there is to making it a private viewing site. Is there any? Sometimes people just like to read, and reserve their comments not knowing enough about what it is we are discussing.
I understand about deleting old accounts, proboards doesn't seem to have the perks that other sites have.
What does everyone else think?
CS
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