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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 12, 2008 4:26:21 GMT -6
This grotto is a union for us wizards. We are the pinnacles of membership within the CoC for the moment. The Cult is mulling in certain areas, I'm sure most of you know this. This is a grotto dedicated to us as a select few working together productively and actively to achieve results. I do not wish to lead the grotto, seeing as there being so few of us we should all work together on an equal level. As council of wizards we should run this, as more members come into this level we can help bring our beloved cult to new heights. This will help us work together to develop the Cult.
I invite: Lut'vul'hashtan Cora'sahn Iven'gatheen (sorry if i spelt anyones name wrong)
One of the first things i would like to do with you guys if you are up for it is write a book together, about well... idk we can discuss it. This could also help the development of new members and eligibility for wizards. i mentioned something about apprenticeship's for heralds wishing to advance.
So what do you guys think?
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Post by sin on Dec 12, 2008 8:01:21 GMT -6
I think it's a great idea, and I'd be wiling to embark on the project.
An idea which came to mind, is taking the COC theology, and all the various interpretations that are possible. In all of my correspondence with potentials, one thing that immediately comes to mind is: "Geezus, these people really believe in this stuff and worship imaginary gods?"
I think interpretation and application material is key in providing the big picture to anyone interested in the cult.
The information coming directly from Wizards, could be helpful to people with even just a surface interest.
What do you think?
Even if it's just a section in the overall book project, I believe it's extremely important.
I mean, why do most people come to forums to interact with other members? I believe it is to observe how each of us interpret and use it.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 12, 2008 17:09:40 GMT -6
Yes, thats great, i also thought that something along that line of things would be good. Explore how we use the content as individual and a membership body, and develop practical application for it.
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 12, 2008 19:50:53 GMT -6
i was going to comment on this idea earlier, but forgot.
yes, i like the idea of organizing, but what you are talking about is different than a Grotto. it sounds more like a Council, an advisory board with its own special interests and objectives. we should build such a structure into the CoC, so more of them can be created in the future.
VS
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Post by Iven'gahteen on Dec 13, 2008 0:13:44 GMT -6
I think it would be a worthwhile project and I would be game. I am in the middle of finals at the moment so I will be off the boards for a couple of days. After this semester is over, I will have more time to discuss it in detail. Hope you guys are doing well. ;D
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Post by Madguten on Dec 13, 2008 12:07:09 GMT -6
Sounds interesting. I am in.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 13, 2008 18:34:46 GMT -6
OK, well lets start tossing around content ideas for the book. I like the idea of "taking the COC theology, and all the various interpretations that are possible" We should work out who the book is written for. Im sure between us, or in some areas as individuals we could write long in depth chapters pertaining to the CoC and related material. But would that amount of information be necessary. What i mean is we should write from the point the point of view that the reader knows very little. Also it might be an idea to put in something like a list of deities, and their relativity, a list of sigils; their use, origins etc. Thats just my thinking, it depends what else we put in and how. We might want to wait to see what Venger's upcoming book will hold. That way we can let the 3 books the CoC will have sit comfortably together. 666th post
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Post by sin on Dec 15, 2008 7:49:18 GMT -6
I believe the book should be for potential members as well as existing members.
Perhaps those interested, will gain insight by understanding what it means to each of us, and how we apply it to our lives.
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Post by Madguten on Dec 15, 2008 17:41:58 GMT -6
I have begun the process of figuring out just WHAT the CoC means to me and how i apply it in my everyday life. I never consider such things that much normally.
And congrats on the 666!
IA! IA! IA!
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 19, 2008 4:55:04 GMT -6
So has anyone given anymore thought to on the book project. Or written anything on it. I haven't, but i have bean thinking about layout and what not.
I thought we could organize it something like this.
Intro: to book and the CoC
Exploration of our inner workings, a deep look into our various and diverse beliefs practices, and things we draw from.
We each write about how we have adapted the cult of cthulhu, and how we use it practically.
Practical applications, actual methods, theories ideas etc.
Spells, rituals etc. that we have individually found to work, or be useful.
conclusion soughta thing.
We could also add some type of artistic or creative section in there. Some art, or poetry, or fiction. We each seem to have some type of creative means. Why not put it in there. I thought perhaps not, that way it can stay abit more professional.
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 19, 2008 12:18:47 GMT -6
be careful you don't put the cart before the horse.
start writing. start with what you know. when your understanding approaches your ignorance... the real work has begun.
VS
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 21, 2008 2:24:03 GMT -6
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when your understanding approaches your ignorance... the real work has begun.
VS [/b][/color][/quote] Thats a good quote there. What said at the moment is just idea's at the moment. So fare as i know non of us has taken serious steps into the book yet. However i havn't herd anything from the others, its hard to be a wizard and not be busy magickaly.
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 21, 2008 13:23:13 GMT -6
no problem, i wasn't trying to discourage... only keep Cultists on the right track. distraction and false starts are so easy, i've made thousands of them myself.
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Post by Madguten on Dec 23, 2008 20:24:39 GMT -6
I am tying up loose ends with some of my projects, to have them done here in the dark yule. As soon as i am done with those, i shall be able to invest more energy into this project.
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Post by bizzzaro66 on Jan 5, 2009 21:37:32 GMT -6
I think that's a fantastic idea. I would like to see the CoC attract magic minded members who want to share tips and opinions on what's happening.
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Post by Madguten on Jan 7, 2009 17:42:58 GMT -6
Yes, the more the merrier ;D
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Post by sin on Jan 8, 2009 13:28:19 GMT -6
My initial thoughts were, writing for an individual angle - in my area of 'in the know' - I would like to address the purpose of symbols to conceptualize ideas, how these symbols serve as outlets for understanding.
In example, all of the various symbols within the mythos - what they mean to me, how I apply them, and what practical usage they have.
Such as:
The Old Ones (As symbols, archetypes, extension of the self) Higher and Lesser positions of each Creating imaginary realms for exploration of the subconscious Word play (i.e. Cathonic (Miskatonic), Cyclopean, Eldrich, etc.) Mythology and its uses
Just some ideas I'm kickin' around. Thoughts?
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 9, 2009 17:58:38 GMT -6
Yea that sounds good. Some stuff about individual deities and their uses, or connections with other mythos related topics.
Maybe some graphs depicting the hierarchy of the A:O, and or the affiliated species. Or a time line of the universe according to the mythos.
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Post by Madguten on Jan 9, 2009 18:52:49 GMT -6
I think that both you guys thoughts about the book material is exiting, the difference in the authors is bound to make for an interesting outcome.
Personally, i shall start by sitting down and writing, mainly about what the mythos means to me and what the cult means to me. I shall see where that takes me. For me the biggest thing is just sitting down and doing it, i never know what i have until im sitting with it.
So i shall do that.
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Dreams!
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 11, 2009 4:41:58 GMT -6
I think a majority of the book should be written as a group, that way we don't just have a bunch of different bits put together in whatever way soughts best. It is likely that patching together individual bits of writting won't help, unless we could do it in a way which helps them complement eachother, which would be hard. Perhaps if its possible, we could write general content on the forum, as posts, each of us putting into each bit. However we should keep the thread private, so just those envolved (and ofcourse VS) can read it and contribute. It'll would only be us with any need to anyway.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Feb 15, 2009 5:40:22 GMT -6
I don't know about you guys but this book has taken a back seat to some other stuff. I have however started writing, and am interested in getting your opinions on it, and seeing what you peoples may or may not have come up with. I know its possible to make threads password protected, so idk if Vs has to do that or if its within the capabilities of Lut'vul'hashtan as moderator. Anyway, i thought it would be best for editing and sharing, so as to keep the content private for now.
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Post by sin on Feb 17, 2009 13:45:28 GMT -6
Yeah, I need to motivate. I do a lot more in creative writing in the spring. Winter is a preparation mode for me.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Feb 17, 2009 21:16:00 GMT -6
I'm heading off soon, on Monday next week i will living nomadic. Myself and gish(he's on the forum) plan to travel north, through the Asia pacific and through the America's The green lines a potential ones, its a very loose path... with no real time restriction. This is our ruff plan for the Asia pacific. Unfortunately this means i will not be able to post as regularly as i do now. If i found any libraries along the way I will stop in and use their computers . I may even send letters. Venger if the address in the back of Cthulhu Cult is ok, you may receive some letters and updates. I know its a bit odd, but you guys are family... maybe better, i never have to pretend I'm interested in what your saying, or fight with you at Christmas over the last chicken wing ;D Heres some of what i wrote for the book, its pretty much ramblings with no direction, still i figure ill post it. |:|It is a strange feeling, one I can’t easily shake. It is one which so subtly fills the mind its alien nature could be easily dismissed as mere paranoia. This in most cases would be the predictable outcome. Their blindness leads them only along stumbling paths, lifting some evidently luckier individuals to higher level in those rare moments of revelation. It is these occasional moments of severe realisation that future civilizations are built upon. It is not until the river bends down a new stretch of low land that we truly understand the unforgiving handicaps of the past. Yet it will always be those few men and women who thrust themselves upward out into the high grounds that shape our world, unfortunately it is only then that we can look up stream to at least guess at what blunders await those still adrift. Most humans can never peacefully let down their guard against the abnormal and gaze out across the inacceptable to the horizon. Fortunately the small pieces of eternal wisdom that fall from the minds of those radically curious individuals can be absorbed in fact it is there to be. It takes the culmination of those timeless realizations and the fruition of one’s own prodding into the topics ignored by the many to truly comprehend anything worthwhile. Even if only for a second most people can that faceless feeling of eldritch dictation, luckily for us they are so mesmerized by the dance of mundane reality that the uneasy flash of ancient potential goes by unattended. For if they all prodded as we do and as we should, there would be chaotic turmoil in all aspects of human existence. For now our beast lurks in the shadowy nooks of society as culture unseen by most and unacceptable to most that have. It is in the relatively peaceful time of ignorant calm that we build and grow, in preparation for the turbulent waters that await the human race.|
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Feb 25, 2009 7:43:04 GMT -6
Failed!!!!
First night out, we discover that one of us(gish) has packed the wrong tent entirely... sucks ass. Well i s'pose more can be achieved this way anyway.
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Post by sin on Feb 25, 2009 10:20:47 GMT -6
Failed!!!! First night out, we discover that one of us(gish) has packed the wrong tent entirely... sucks ass. Well i s'pose more can be achieved this way anyway. *lol* Well, at least you have a great sense of humor about it, and see the forest through the trees. I must admit, I am envious of your adventure.
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Post by librabys on Feb 25, 2009 22:29:13 GMT -6
Wow man such a great trip!
So if you slimy wizards are interested to write a collaborative book, I strongly recomend you to read LIBER MALORUM, It is really a great example of collaborative magickal¤Mythologic work, and it is as well a good book in itself
(you will find LIBER MALORUM on lulu.com)
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Post by sin on Feb 26, 2009 14:24:34 GMT -6
Wow man such a great trip! So if you slimy wizards are interested to write a collaborative book, I strongly recomend you to read LIBER MALORUM, It is really a great example of collaborative magickal¤Mythologic work, and it is as well a good book in itself (you will find LIBER MALORUM on lulu.com) Thanks for the recommendation, so many books...so little time.
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Post by librabys on Feb 26, 2009 15:37:37 GMT -6
Thanks for the recommendation, so many books...so little time. I have the same problem lol
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Post by Madguten on Feb 27, 2009 20:07:03 GMT -6
Ia! We all do. I often listen to texts now using ReadPlease or the likes, while i do other things if there is a text i want to read but cant really fit into my day. Then i can get some input while cleaning the house, lol
Its a small step for man, and a giant leap backwards for mankind....lol
;D ;D ;D
Oh yeah, too bad about the tent. Hope you made it work.
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Post by Da real God on May 28, 2009 0:45:04 GMT -6
Shaz'rahjeem
Now sometimes boy, you just don’t see the biggest hidden peaces of the calling to/of Cthlhu…
Your heart, I feel is in the right place but your logic, however takes on small stints of greatness.
It is my opinion that, the calling, wouldn’t even be what it is to day without the inspiring writings of such amateur occult writers as: Michel W. Ford, Peter Carroll, Ray Shrewin, Pseudononymous, & Old Philly Hine. And that’s not even taking into account, of their predecessors of the craft’ and who they were.
It’s is always nice to find, “quote on quote”, an appeasing and numerous, verity of paradigms. This can sometimes, & will work for your needs, on the other hand, I’ve not seen you play fair in call cases!
Awakening for example, is an ever consistent theme within this specified group. And I got to read in a post seeing you go on talking about doing such, furthermore you had others state their ideas about the subject and I watched you shoot them down!
“You came off!!! and seemed to me, that you were taking an apprehensive approach to protecting your paradigm & avatars such the still sleeping “The big bad” Cathlhu.
Gnosis is of course Gnosis, nirvana, and or centering one’s self.
It really looked and still looks, like you’ve not grown up in that respect. You can’t think that your (Way) is the only path to fallow when it comes down to working with Cathlhu. Someone has done it far before you were ever thought of. LOL it’s all good, Xd.
This time, it just so happens, yet once again, to my dissapointment; that you think your doing something new!
I’m not going to tell you how to act and would never want that to be my job, but I say this think more about what your trying to convey to your peoples.
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