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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Feb 23, 2009 11:39:55 GMT -6
I just had some pretty porno thoughts involving Cora then.... Pity I'm taken Taken, shmaken! lol Well if i wasn't gay i'd be yours ;D
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Post by jmsn72 on Feb 23, 2009 12:42:32 GMT -6
Im not opposed to polygamy.I don't like the way polygamist sects in most places get all oppressive .Only the guys have multiple women but the women can't have multiple men of their own?Oppressive fools screw it all up always.I dont think any cult members would be like that though,folks here have way more sense than those backwards bible (and wife) beaters. Anyways,personally I doubt polygamy can work for a man like me.I cherish a few good relationships,even if sexual rather than a lot of normal ones.I'm not closing my options or trying to limit myself but I always wanted to get lost in the one,obsess over the one and worship her,nothing more.I think I may get so much into one to even be turned on by another.In short,I wanna find 1 true love before I branch out. If 1 on 1 fails,then I'll be open to polygamy
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Post by Madguten on Feb 24, 2009 5:57:17 GMT -6
What i DO is one thing, in practice i agree with what you say here, i believe in equal opportunities for the genders. Aside from that, i dont think i would prefer polygamy, i am very boring, almost ritualistic in that way i guess. And jealousy is also a factor.
Thats what i DO, but what i AM is another thing.
Deep down inside, i just want to chase off every other males and have ALL women for myself. It is a strange mammal trade. I feel it often, react upon it? hardly.
But its there. It surfaces from time to time.
Fighting its way out.
I do not know if women get the same drive. Perhaps it is highly relative.
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Post by jmsn72 on Feb 24, 2009 13:53:09 GMT -6
I know most women like men well endowed like a 14 inch rod of pain or a tertiary human arm.I however am average.My problem with polygamy is that they'll screw an abnormal sexual mutant and normal ole me will never have a chance after they taste that ravenous beast in human skin.
I could not share for that reason,I too am jealousy prone.As for having multiple women :If I'd fear a woman Im with screwing other guys for my jealousy ,I am certain it would not be fair for me to mess with another woman.Only have eyes for one. though it may make me a boring ole traditionalist .
Trust me I am sure women get the same drive as men if not more.Women and men are the same sexually,actually women are capable of more orgasms at greater intensity so they exceed males.The only reason I hate the black subculture I grew up in is that women who are sexually free are bitches,whores and hoes and men who do it are pimps,playas and gs.I detest it passionately.You figure they'd be open minded enough not to demonize FEMALE sexuality and only exalt male sexuality but no...no wonder Africa is such a mess....
I have to give props to white culture for coming closest to some gender equality because black culture is 1000 years behind. I hope no one feels uncomfortable with a black dude picking apart his own ethnicity.I don't hate my own race,but I certainly don't love em or any race for that matter....except for the female race (regardless of ethnic background),they are quite sexy to look at ;D.
Im sorry for my digression.I could do it but my form of polygamy is one woman at a time for at least a year before moving to the next one.Kinda different from just taking one immediately after another.I'd have to try it some time though.
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Post by jmsn72 on Apr 4, 2009 17:23:14 GMT -6
Ok I do see a flaw with polygamy.In fact it is the same flaw I see with socialism and the non-ownership of property.While one does not consider thier mate property in a relationship, because thier significant other is not technically theirs, technically rape can not exist as their own bodies and genetalia are not their's. This in a worse case scenario would allow for continuous sexual abuse by whomever has more power (M or F) and sexual abuse with the excuse of non -ownership is fucked up imo.
Polygamy if left unchecked could lead to the same problems.A young man or woman with multiple partners doing whatever would in theory at least in my mind seem more likely encounter a situation where their willingness to have more than one mate is seen as a lack of self respect and they are abused because of it sexually.Or perhaps they are with more than one mate at the moment but they only want to be with one of the many in the area.The others may not respect it and gang rape the member in question.They would say something like they were asking for it or they are polygamous so it can't be rape.People are fucked up like this.
In my argument I refer to man-man,woman-woman,man-woman and woman-man relations.In my opinion,humans are not socially or sexually evolved enough not to take advantage-for this reason I find quarrel with orgies as well.One may claim they are more evolved as cultist or what not but it is less likely a person who practices polygamy will report sexual abuses due to the stigma our society places on it.My argument with polygamy is that people could take advantage of it.
Sure people take advantage of people in -non-polygamous relationship or do fucked up things to people who don't practice polygamy.I think we are more likely to see people get away with abuses against members who practice polygamy.
Sure many guys are thinking,if some other woman wants to force me to give it a go then fine, but imagine this is a 500 pound femal e beast or imagine it were another guy going to rape you.It is just more prevelant for abuses to be carried out against women.A woman who by her own will exercises her sexual freedom to which I support will not receive the due respect by some male/female peers opening her to potentially being assaulted.
Not only aren't humans socially and sexually evolved, they are social animals.A person engaging in the taboo is singled out and when you are singled out,you are vulnerable.
In short I am not truly against a man or woman enjoying the field, however I can see how sexual abuses can be more prevalent given polygamy.Lets face it,the human being is a creature that craves opportunity, even if that opportunity causes harm.My thoughts are more fearful and take into account the dark side of humanity.Fear and the realization that this fear is justified is the basis of my argument.
Forgive me for the double post but these are new thoughts seperated by a considerable time difference.
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Post by martin on Apr 10, 2009 16:24:00 GMT -6
I myself am not polyamorous. I am in a long term monogamous relationship. I Simply enjoy the company of my partner and don't really feel I really want to be with any one else. I'm not saying this wont change for either of us. I neither condemn nor condone polyamoury It comes down to freedom and choice. Our bodies are the only thing that we truly own in this life and we have freedom to receive pleasure from it how we will. With whom we will. This freedom is not a license to Rape. With all Freedom comes responsibility. EVERYONE has the same freedom of Choice. Everyone shares in the responsibility. But and this is a BIG but the society we live in isn't ready for that responsibility. Women especially are vilified for fulfilling their needs ,wants and desires. In law, not necessarily by law but in the eyes of its practitioners they are somehow socially reduced. Society as a whole and strangely members of their own Sex; who should be supporting them; judge them. I'm ashamed to say the world is far from ready to accept polyamoury and polygamy as a viable alternative never mind the accepted norm. Its gonna take a real long time and a lot of education
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Post by seeker on Apr 20, 2009 0:05:30 GMT -6
Ok I do see a flaw with polygamy.In fact it is the same flaw I see with socialism and the non-ownership of property.While one does not consider thier mate property in a relationship, because thier significant other is not technically theirs, technically rape can not exist as their own bodies and genetalia are not their's. This in a worse case scenario would allow for continuous sexual abuse by whomever has more power (M or F) and sexual abuse with the excuse of non -ownership is fucked up imo. Wait, what? The socialist idea of not having private property has nothing to do with personal property (a family heirloom, a brush, an apple, etc.). The bodies of individuals definitely do belong to them, and they have the responsibility to protect their rights to them. By-the-by, I love the concept of polyamory, but I have a very monogamous mindset, and could never imagine sharing myself or my girlfriend with another. I just admire those who do make it work.
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Post by sin on Apr 21, 2009 13:39:48 GMT -6
I have first-hand knowledge of working poly families. The dynamic works, and harmoniously provided everyone is on the same page.
One family consists of 1 woman to 2 men. They share in all the responsibilities to include working, taking care of the household, and the children. They act as your normal Beaver-Cleaver type family.
Another family consists of 5 women to 3 men, no children. The dynamic still works as a family - it's the whole 'it takes a village' mentality. They share in all aspects of the day-to-day life, as well as ensure that all partners are happy mentally, emotionally and physically.
Just a couple of examples of working poly families.
Then there is the nightmare, the 2 women to 1 man thing but the women are not on the same page, vying for the man's attention. Competing, animosity, drama - I swear the guy has a hole in his head where a brain should be. I'd never put up with the bullshit he deals with. I mean, when you get down to the nitty gritty - is it really worth the headache? He seems miserable all the time, but 'pretends' that everything is fine. I know better.
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Post by glade on Apr 27, 2009 21:29:00 GMT -6
For the Cult to grow wouldn't you think we'd have more poly families? Wouldn't it be a good thing?
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Post by sin on Apr 28, 2009 9:41:13 GMT -6
For the Cult to grow wouldn't you think we'd have more poly families? Wouldn't it be a good thing? Are you talking communal living? I don't think poly families/relationships are the route to go. I mean, geez how many cults have done that? I think in order to separate us from the passe' we should expand by tapping that spark to get people to self examine. Think of the quality vs. the quantity.
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Post by I AM the Way on Apr 28, 2009 10:15:59 GMT -6
sometimes concepts are a cliche for a reason...
for most guys, they'd rather have quantity than quality (ideally, they would prefer both). for instance, if the average man could have his choice between 3 fairly attractive girls (either all at once or separately and ongoing) or 1 very attractive girl, then i believe most would choose the former.
i'm sure for most women, it's the reverse. unfortunately, society doesn't even allow for the option. how many girlfriends are OK with their boyfriend taking on another girlfriend or two while still dating them?
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Post by sin on Apr 28, 2009 10:23:55 GMT -6
sometimes concepts are a cliche for a reason...
for most guys, they'd rather have quantity than quality (ideally, they would prefer both). for instance, if the average man could have his choice between 3 fairly attractive girls (either all at once or separately and ongoing) or 1 very attractive girl, then i believe most would choose the former.
i'm sure for most women, it's the reverse. unfortunately, society doesn't even allow for the option. how many girlfriends are OK with their boyfriend taking on another girlfriend or two while still dating them?
VSI'm completely fine with it, I actually prefer it. I keeps the guy from getting too lost in me, and being up my ass. Not to mention, I'm a free agent and like to go out hunting for strange so it's all good if we both have mature attitudes about sex. Most women? They foam at the mouth, I see it all the time. Even those that initially sign up for an 'open relationship'. I think they just agree to it, to please their interest - not that it's actually desired. I've actually seen quite a few men ditch a group of mediocre women for one really gorgeous woman. I guess it depends. Statistically speaking? I want to see figures.
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Post by glade on Apr 30, 2009 8:28:41 GMT -6
No, I don't think in a communal way. Growing up in the 60's and 70's I heard of them coming and going left and right. I was thinking more of family units and networking together with other poly families. Not in a compound that has also failed in the past.
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Post by sorrowking on May 5, 2009 1:31:25 GMT -6
Righto....Heres this crazy bastards opinion on this subject, played out by relating my past experiences.
Group sex- Nothing wrong with it just as long as everyone is on the same page (As has already been mentioned). I had a GF years ago that was into experimenting, much to my joy. One night a mate of mine hooked up with her best friend. My GF suggested we all go back to her house and get it on. Fine at first. Then my buddy and I swapped girls. My GF freaked out watching me shag her friend and we argued for weeks. Infact it was something she would bring up years later if we had a fight. She was the only one with an issue even though she was the one to suggest it in the first place. The green eyed monster can lurk even if you think your cool with it.
Bi women- The same GF later decided she was bi. She said it was her right to sleep with other women but she wouldnt share. She claimed it was her right because she felt she had a biological need to explore that part of her sexuality. I pointed out that its a biological need of every man to sleep with as many women as possible but I can supress that need because she wants me to and cheating is cheating whether it be with man, woman or family pet (Yes I was being an asshole). We broke up but got back together after we had both sated our desires with women.
Marriage- Fast forward 10 years. By now we had pretty much been through everthing. Fights, break ups and kids. We decided to get hitched. We got married on halloween. I wore a black hooded robe and she wore white. Guitar was played during the ceremony by a mate dressed as the grim reaper. My best man was dressed as Satan (Who I might add bears a striking similarity to Venger.lol). We had been together for 10 years but our marriage lasted less than a year and a half.
Sexual need- I then met a very hot barmaid. I moved in with her. I thought I had a good sexual appetite. But not even I can screw 3 to 4 times a day every day. We broke up. Not because I was lacking but because her sexual appetite was a result of her being compleatly NUTS!
With all that said I dont think I have actually related my opinion. I think thats because I dont have one. For the last couple of years I have been happy to just be a slut. I go out each weekend and try to pull a root. Relationships are not for me. I suck at them. I would rather be alone and just get the occasional fuck.
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Post by sin on May 5, 2009 9:43:04 GMT -6
Sluts unite! :-) I say, even a chance meeting or getting some strange is a 'relationship' of sorts, albeit physical but you have to 'relate' to one another at least on some level. I usually carry short-lived sexual relationships, I bore rather easily - and am always looking for something mind blowing.
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Post by Draelloathe on May 5, 2009 9:44:25 GMT -6
Been there with the 3 4 times a day thing.
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Post by I AM the Way on May 5, 2009 9:56:33 GMT -6
nothing wrong with playing the field (or being a slut), but i don't think you have trouble with relationships, brother. i think you have chosen a few damaged women to be in a relationship with. big difference. after what you described of the first woman, i saw the word marriage and knew that disaster was around the corner. i think most people also felt that oncoming train wreck.
here's my greenish black pearls of wisdom for the night... there are three types of women: Ho's, Freaks, and Good Girls. Ho's you pay with, Freaks you play with, and Good Girls you stay with. ideally, a man who wants to settle down should look for a freakish Good Girl.
here endeth the lesson,
VS
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Post by sorrowking on May 5, 2009 17:59:45 GMT -6
Sluts unite! :-) I say, even a chance meeting or getting some strange is a 'relationship' of sorts, albeit physical but you have to 'relate' to one another at least on some level. I hear you. Im not likely to bed a woman if we dont get along on some level. Just as long as she can relate to the fact that Im going to call her a cab when Im done
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Post by sorrowking on May 5, 2009 18:04:17 GMT -6
nothing wrong with playing the field (or being a slut), but i don't think you have trouble with relationships, brother. i think you have chosen a few damaged women to be in a relationship with. big difference. after what you described of the first woman, i saw the word marriage and knew that disaster was around the corner. i think most people also felt that oncoming train wreck.
here's my greenish black pearls of wisdom for the night... there are three types of women: Ho's, Freaks, and Good Girls. Ho's you pay with, Freaks you play with, and Good Girls you stay with. ideally, a man who wants to settle down should look for a freakish Good Girl.
here endeth the lesson,
VS Well said my friend. Its just a shame that I seem to carry a sign that says "if your nuts, a stoner or a ball buster come and get it here"
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Post by I AM the Way on May 5, 2009 20:15:01 GMT -6
is that from The Three Amigos or something?
i meet girls like that too, everyone does... but you've got to learn how to weed out all of the ones that aren't girlfriend material. eventually, you'll meet a one-night stand or casual fling who you really connect with. that might be the time to get off the merry-go-round of love, if that's what you choose to do. until then, live it up! ...or should that be lick it up?
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Post by sorrowking on May 5, 2009 20:21:04 GMT -6
Lol. Yep The Three Amigos. I was thinking about Shub-Niggurath and the quote just jumped into my head. And yes. I shall "lick it up" for now.
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 14, 2009 14:19:11 GMT -6
when one has been Called, there are many changes...
for awhile now, i've believed that polygamous or polyamorous relationships might be the most desirable situation for Cthulhu Cultists.
certainly, society and government should stay out of a person's life. would anyone want their country to have authority over their religious views or love life?
if a Cultist wants to engage in a legal marriage, then that's there business. however, a man should have the option of taking multiple concubines, girlfriends, or "wives" if he wishes.
what are your thoughts? pros and cons?
Venger Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priestwww.CultofCthulhu.net Or...you can say a WOMAN should have a choice to either be married or have several men to suitor her, haha!
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Post by LostSoul on Jul 14, 2009 23:03:25 GMT -6
Polygamy is completely gender biased; as it is practiced today in the world...Why can't the women also have said lifestyle with more than one husband?
Until it's equal...I think guys should just have to be without it along with the ladies.
In other words; suck it up guys. Mwahahahaha! ;D
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Post by sin on Jul 15, 2009 6:47:52 GMT -6
Polygamy is completely gender biased; as it is practiced today in the world...Why can't the women also have said lifestyle with more than one husband? Until it's equal...I think guys should just have to be without it along with the ladies. In other words; suck it up guys. Mwahahahaha! ;D Ummm, depends on what circles you travel in. I know several women who have harems of men - and they all 'serve' a need. One man works to bring home the bacon One is the cook One is the maid One is for adventure One is for lazy days They all are used for sex. It's one big happy family, and the group has been together for over 10 years. Another woman I know, has two husbands who live in the household, and it's more of a typical marriage with an extra Dad. So, I think your right in that it's more common among men, but more and more women are coming around. Social norms are being rejected. Women are less concerned with being labeled a whore than they were. And, in today's society it takes multiple partners to run a household with a bunch of kids.
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Post by LostSoul on Jul 15, 2009 13:10:14 GMT -6
Well, I live in Texas...Home to the FLDS. So, if you've ever watched the series "Big Love"; you somewhat got an idea of what's going on...As I said...Gender biased.
Your friends definitley have a much better deal than the ladies here do...
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Post by sin on Jul 15, 2009 13:15:47 GMT -6
Well, I live in Texas...Home to the FLDS. So, if you've ever watched the series "Big Love"; you somewhat got an idea of what's going on...As I said...Gender biased. Your friends definitley have a much better deal than the ladies here do... Oh I'm very much aware of the FLDS, have a topic on Paganspace I've been discussing since the raid. I post regular updates. I think it's a perception thing. Like people who live in predominately black areas that say, that they are no longer a minority group. Ummm yeah, move out to the cornbread Midwest, then we'll talk numbers. :-)
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