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Post by shawnhartnell on Oct 3, 2013 9:01:42 GMT -6
I've split off this thread from this one so that it doesn't clutter up the discussion there. I thought it would be useful to point out examples of self-observation outside the Fourth Way.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Oct 3, 2013 9:03:18 GMT -6
I recently ran into self-obervation in a round about way in the book The Art of Getting Things Done by David Allen.
In it, he gives the overview of his entire system in five processes:
1. Collect
2. Process
3. Organize
4. Review
5. Do
While reading the book I realized that parts of this process directly related to self-observation.
Consider the advice that's commonly given to someone new to the Fourth Way : Do nothing except observe what goes on and label it as relating to one of centers. This advice is telling the noob to perform process 1 (observe what goes on) and process 2 ( label it according to one of the centers. )
I'm still working on the overlap on this one, but it's already been very worthwhile.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Oct 3, 2013 9:06:04 GMT -6
Emiel (The Satanic Dutchman) has a short series of videos on magic where he discusses a method of self-observation. The method is simple:
1. Throw away everything you already think you know.
2. Get a book.
3. Write down anything that has an emotional charge to it.
Step three is essentially the collection step of self-observation and GTD. If I remember correctly he also touches on processing and organization.
I'm on the internet through a cell-phone service which has very limited bandwidth so I'm going to have to hunt down the actual videos later.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 4, 2013 6:46:57 GMT -6
I recently ran into self-obervation in a round about way in the book The Art of Getting Things Done by David Allen.
In it, he gives the overview of his entire system in five processes:
1. Collect
2. Process
3. Organize
4. Review
5. Do
While reading the book I realized that parts of this process directly related to self-observation.
Consider the advice that's commonly given to someone new to the Fourth Way : Do nothing except observe what goes on and label it as relating to one of centers. This advice is telling the noob to perform process 1 (observe what goes on) and process 2 ( label it according to one of the centers. )
I'm still working on the overlap on this one, but it's already been very worthwhile.
A machine that occasionally thinks and feels for itself can be ignorant of its own abilities, its processing paralyzed by fear, its conclusions clouded by desire. This is the worst kind of functionality.
Instead of being machine men, we must become men machines.
VS
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Post by shawnhartnell on Oct 4, 2013 10:48:29 GMT -6
If we were only machines - and nothing more than that - our functioning would be efficient and effortless.
VS
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 4, 2013 11:21:56 GMT -6
If we were only machines - and nothing more than that - our functioning would be efficient and effortless.
VS
VS
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Post by shawnhartnell on Oct 4, 2013 12:21:55 GMT -6
Heh. Maybe I should have used the word fixer-upper instead of klunker.
Anyway, I think I missed the plot. I don't quite understand the relevance of what your original response to what you quoted.
Could you point out the connection? Thanks.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Oct 4, 2013 21:51:50 GMT -6
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Post by shawnhartnell on Oct 5, 2013 0:15:32 GMT -6
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Post by lokidreaming on Oct 17, 2013 5:00:58 GMT -6
Theoretically people should develop more in the age of over sharing as their is more information one can retrieve promptly. However, in a lot of these cases, it only leads to superficial knowledge of certain topics. Over sharing of information from my observations and deductions can make the person less hungry to dig really deep down like the old days at the same time over sharing can act as a positive catalyst for some people as this over sharing of information can lead them to dig for themselves. |
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Feb 22, 2014 21:56:29 GMT -6
The point being that people tend to over share? Well I find the real trick is to separate the relevant from the not-so-relevant. And even that can create issues as something that didn't seem so important 30 minutes ago can suddenly become a hug freaking deal!
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