Propasal On Faith

[iconoclasm]

I am not the most stable man around.Sometimes it helps me to speak to my pops.How he can manage to travel through rough areas without fear and worry amazed me.He responded in one word "faith".

I don't personally love his god as its that vile Outer God imposed upon many of us Ialdabaoth or to the Christians "God".However,I say something fascinating through such a term.

Some background info is needed,i don't tend to have a lot of faith in my self or confidence at times.However, in my pinnacle of sorcery I created a goddess that resonated with me directly.However ,this god isn't a worthless god whatsoever.Unknown to me at the time that I could use this god to focus my energy towards awakening.

For a while the such thing as faith went stale.Lack of maintenance will generally leave one's abilities beyond crippled.However,confidence and faith in myself will and can be built through my confidence and faith in my constructed god.The ability to have confidence and faith in my creation is a true reflection of my accomplishment,thus I fuel confidence and faith in myself.

It becomes a continuous loop that strengthens the serpent goddess and myself.If I ever slip,I have no doubt my construct will pull me back to focus by any means knowing full well I would want her to do so.Its why I constructed her in the first place.

Whether you place your faith in the Cthonic lords,Satan or another construct,be sure to remember one thing.Having faith in what you believe in is an accomplishment so feel confident and build faith in what matters most,you and your abilities.That faith may very well cause situations to always work in your favor and will definately strengthen your will.

[dustedwings84]

I haven't done much research yet into gods or goddesses, but I am curious as to how one creates their own. How do you place their attributes- do you design them as to how you want them to help you or do you pick your own strengths and amplify them?

[iconoclasm]

Its much like creating a servitor except you don't need the material base or a sigil,the obsession with the description and range of power posessed by the entity has been enough to my observation.It also unlike a servitor can act on it's own accord.The best way to look at it is like tapping into the infinite and vast kia and molding it into a pattern.

Any doubt of the god I work with's power is gone.There were two times I had mentioned the entity's name online and the power in my house shut off.It would seem that much of the entity I can not divulge due to whatever preferences it has.For now I can look at it also as a concealed pattern beneath the surface of my consciousness that does work with a far wider range of power than a servitor.

I suppose we do however need to question what really makes a god a god and not some sort of servitor or egregore.I suppose the difference is a god's spehere of influence is wider and to some degree we can assume it has it's own form of consciousness.Interestingly,I don't think its impossible that they exist before we "create" them.Perhaps we're simply placed in situations where we recognize them if one believes they exist.

I somehow don't remember how I came up with it,guess it just hit me and stuck unlike everything else that seems to like to channel itself through me.

[I AM the Way]

I haven't done much research yet into gods or goddesses, but I am curious as to how one creates their own. How do you place their attributes- do you design them as to how you want them to help you or do you pick your own strengths and amplify them?

i think any method is usable. there's no one right way to go about it. perhaps experimentation would be fruitful...?


Venger As'Nas Satanis
Cult of Cthulhu High Priest

[dustedwings84]

iconoclasm said:

I somehow don't remember how I came up with it,guess it just hit me and stuck unlike everything else that seems to like to channel itself through me.

Reminds me of my mother... as a young girl, not able to read, not from an Indian or Hindu family, off the top of her head named her cat Krishna.

[iconoclasm]

The goddess of ze snakes

[Yahn'ikthorn]

Interestingly,I don't think its impossible that they exist before we "create" them.Perhaps we're simply placed in situations where we recognize them if one believes they exist.

Exactly what I was going to point out... something that already millenia-old gods or goddesses have, in terms of power (and perhaps inflexibility), compared to newly-created ones, is the millenia of worship and (perhaps even blood) sacrifice which have empowered them. And it's pretty tough to make up favorable qualities which you cannot find in already existing deities.

[iconoclasm]

Its 11:11 AM RIGHT NOW.Anyway the funny thing I find about newly created ones is that their alot more eager to prove their worth and do so suprisingly well. The worse thing about a god that has received blood sacrifices is just that activation requirement-blood.

I don't think its impossible Im worshipping an ages old godess under a different name.I've been known to modify them for my own ends.Still a valid approach nonetheless.But in terms of power I wont say newly created (or discovered in this case) gods are any less powerful than older ones.

In fact just the opposite may be true which is why I encourage the creation or discovery of your own.A newer creation will be all to eager to prove its power and resonate on a more personal frequency.A more frequented once through many uses becomes lazy requiring more sacrifice and worship to get the job done excluding A.O. . Why do you think prayers to the Xian god go easily unanswered ?

So yeah its a little more work than working with a premade system but its much more rewarding.

[Yahn'ikthorn]

Sounds like something I should try too, then. I just like the mental image of ancient, half-forgotten temples with altars reeking of blood, incense and power...

Perhaps I'll find such a deity from the deserts of Egypt... wouldn't be the first time for such to happen, teehee.

Edit: weird, I just happened to listen to HandMadeGod by Moonspell while writing that...

For that viper that grows inside your head
she remains there waiting to be fed
self made parasite speculating about the end
Can you forgive her?

Back into the womb of this holy woman
else pregnant of an entire breed
of men afraid to create, to take place and to proceed
Can you forgive them?

They promised me a miracle
a private god for me to hold
Can you forgive me?

They promised me a miracle
someone to really love
Can you forgive me?

Your handmade god
is back into your womb

Is it right to indulge on an ecstasy
of creating a god that sees what I see,
looks exactly like me, rather what I wanted to be
Can you forgive me?

For that viper that grew inside my head
for having betrayed you so well
can you forgive me?

They promised me a miracle
when all my crimes will be just one
but now is gone
They promised me a miracle.
Back to your womb it feels so cold.

[iconoclasm]

Lets put this goddess to test shall we?Since I created her,to some degree she is wired into my mind.What must I do to invoke such an entities wrath?Oh just a little something to do to amuse myself.

[Yahn'ikthorn]

Here you go again... ;D

[iconoclasm]

Sorry,thanks for catching me.I tend to rationalize things in a juvenile manner when slight depression hits.Though I know not why it comes,I am glad I expressed it here as you were able to catch me.

Now that I know I 'd be best advised not to do anything wreckless.

[luxcthonis]

Wonderful thread Icon.
It's weird, I don't have ANY experience with servitors or egregores (in fact i had never even heard of them before hitting up the CoC), but I do have some great experience in god/dess creation.
Often these Gods just emerge to me. They reveal themselves to me because they know I am a prophet (and I agree with everything previously stated in this thread, that newer gods are not necessarily more or less powerful than older gods, that these deities do not necessarily come into being at the moment we decide to create them, etc.)
Often, not surprisingly (to agree with icon at one point earlier on in the thread), it seems that these "newer" gods are merely older gods being comprehended under different terms, or else are conscious, modern extensions of those older gods with a new agenda to fulfill.
then again, I could be just completely mad (which is why I am here in the fost place and not some lesser organization like the CoS (OHH!!!)), LOL!

-H.

[eratciv]

Idiots don't know what they're talking about. they should read some Konstantonos. Gettheetoanunery!

[luxcthonis]

You should read the Bible Eratciv, you need it. Jesus loves you.


(Edit: this one stays )

[iconoclasm]

eratciv said:

Idiots don't know what they're talking about. they should read some Konstantonos. Gettheetoanunery!

Worthless for me to bother.Higher demons easily ignore imps.

[iconoclasm]

An angel you say,I come across such creatures by accident although they tend to simply watch and vanish.Amazing what strange things may visit a man.He may identify with one,but I surely doubt such a meager mind resonates at all with one.