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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 12, 2011 1:28:12 GMT -6
I've been studying this with great interest as I've had an interest in the Old Ones for some time now. A woman once told me that they are but another type of demon. Regardless of precisely what they are, I do wish to work with them and Mr. Tyson appears to be suggesting that I pick an Old One to be my guide here... I'm actually leaning towards Shub Niggurath or perhaps Dagon, but I haven't decided quite yet. Nyarlathotep may in fact be more appropriate for one such as myself. It would appear that I am quite fragmented and as such, the precise Old One appears to be elusive! That is one thing I like about my path so far is that my patron god (Amon Ra) chose me!
First off, the grimoire itself seems somewhat demanding and I think perhaps the omission of certain aspects may be in order here as I do not have the resources to accommodate it. I am a chaos mage after all! I believe I should act my part! As I just stated, I do not have the resources that I'd like and I'm thinking of perhaps just writing the symbols of the old ones onto cards as the symbolism is really all that's required. (In theory) I was also considering just practicing independently and the correct Old One for my path may just become apparent or perhaps it could be like what happened to me earlier, they pick me!
Just wanted to put my ideas out there and see what other cultists have to say. So with that in mind, what say you people?
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Post by sin on Dec 12, 2011 9:57:14 GMT -6
It appears that Donald Tyson's work is gaining popularity. A number of cultists have been using it as a personal guide. Do you see any conflict of interest between what he is advocating and THE WORK?
CS
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 12, 2011 16:45:22 GMT -6
Well Cora, so far so good. (So what?) I'm going to continue studying and draw my own conclusions... I mean, that's what I was going to do anyway!
On a related note, I have decided Nyarlathotep would be the spirit guide for me. Think on it! We're both adversarial, we're both cut against the grain, and many would consider both of us insane! (The Crawling Chaos!)
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Post by Voraxith on Dec 13, 2011 3:23:47 GMT -6
I have read most of Tyson's work with the Mythos, and have worked extensively with his Necronomicon tarot. I think he really missed the point of the Great Old Ones by corresponding them to planetary magick. However, in his 13 Gates, he makes a very unique and interesting allegory between Azathoth, Nyarlathotep and Shub-Niggurath with the top three sephira of the qabbalistic tree of life. All in all, I do like his books and am glad that at least one main stream occult writer is dealing with the Mythos in serious terms. Would I advise using them in religious practice? Absolutely, but not as a catch-all -- be careful what you implement, and make certain that it makes sense to you first and foremost. That is all, now back to my dragons. [glow=red,2,300] Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn![/glow]
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 13, 2011 15:50:04 GMT -6
Indeed! I certainly do not consider his work to be the be all end all of the discussion mind you! Regardless, it is certainly helpful to get a fresh perspective on eons old concepts that have been sitting on the back burner for a while as well!
On another note, I have decided Dagon would be a better spiritual guide for me. Now, I do have options here. I have a combat trained body and iron will so Cthulhu would be another viable option. I have also engaged in many gratuitous acts of hedonism, so Shub Niggurath would also not be out of the question. But with a little soul searching, I'm currently feeling Dagon is my man... Knowing me however, that is subject to change and I haven't finished the "study portion" of my work just yet anyway...
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Dec 21, 2011 10:18:33 GMT -6
Indeed! I certainly do not consider his work to be the be all end all of the discussion mind you! Regardless, it is certainly helpful to get a fresh perspective on eons old concepts that have been sitting on the back burner for a while as well! On another note, I have decided Dagon would be a better spiritual guide for me. Now, I do have options here. I have a combat trained body and iron will so Cthulhu would be another viable option. I have also engaged in many gratuitous acts of hedonism, so Shub Niggurath would also not be out of the question. But with a little soul searching, I'm currently feeling Dagon is my man... Knowing me however, that is subject to change and I haven't finished the "study portion" of my work just yet anyway... His Necronomicon is a part of what i practice myself,but like you it's not the be all end all,the search must go on:)
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 27, 2011 18:49:01 GMT -6
What the hell? "Dagon is also known as Leviathon..." I already have Leviathon tattooed on my back! Was thinking of getting his sigil tattooed on the other side, but tattoos on your back ARE quite painful! The arms ain't so bad though... And after further study, I'm (apparently) already on the path of Dagon... Well, seems pretty cut and dried to me! Although I welcome input...
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Post by Voraxith on Dec 27, 2011 18:52:31 GMT -6
Actually, and here's one of the areas I disagree with Tyson on, if you look at the Hebrew etymology for the word 'leviathan', it comes from a root word which means to 'twist or twine' -- kind of like a tentacle perhaps? My own opinion is that Dagon is just another moniker for Great Cthulhu.
[glow=red,2,300]Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn![/glow]
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 27, 2011 22:54:39 GMT -6
Well right or wrong, it is interesting to note that I would follow the same path in both instances. However, I will keep your words in mind should they ever make a difference sir!
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