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Post by jasonsorrell on Sept 24, 2011 12:36:35 GMT -6
It has been a while since I have posted anything here. Like all of you, living life has been keeping me busy. I've written a new blog about awareness as it relates to time for eminentmind.info. If you haven't checked out Eminentmind, this is where TC Downey and I, along with a few other writers, have been focusing our energies in relation to the philosophical exploration of Fourth Way concepts (with the Ooze being where more practical discussion has been the norm for several Sundays now). If you check it out, I hope you find the post enlightening. -J
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Sept 24, 2011 20:56:07 GMT -6
I placed my comments on EminentMind.info, and I'm asking you to elaborate more on your idea. Great blog, by the way. Awake! Apsara Kamalli Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by talek on Sept 24, 2011 22:58:54 GMT -6
Excellent Blog. I have read the first two articles, and I do not like to use puns, but it was the right time for me to read these. While I was reading the first article, energy came into my mind, I was thinking yes, time, but one does need the energy to focus on the moment and stay focused, or at least I do. Then to my good fortune the second article focused on energy. Time, awareness, and energy, all three words I needed to read, maybe this gave me a small shock into awareness, and where I am at in my life. Again excellent blog and I plan on returning to reread and read the other articles. Forward motion requires responsibility and an awareness not only of time but self, your blog made me think of my own situation. I have been away from the Cult of Cthulhu for sometime now, maybe it is time to invest in the moment of now once again. Thanks to Jason and Apsara Kamalli for your articles and this blog.
Awake! Talek Esoteric of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 25, 2011 8:58:16 GMT -6
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That's what I posted on your latest essay, Jason. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Awake!
VS
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Post by dudetyson on Sept 25, 2011 22:42:20 GMT -6
This is high-quality stuff, and I glanced at the rest of the blog which also looks incredible. Please post here more often. I would like more of these directly-stated explanatory guidelines for a Systematic Approach to Living Life, either from you, or Venger or anyone in the CoC.
Obviously "National Blow-Off Day" struck a particular chord with me. “I wonder if that is what it looked like in Egypt as the people left the slave-district to build Pharaoh’s pyramid.”
Hey Venger -- at what point does Awakening become redundant, and life revolves more around actually *doing* something with whatever knowledge and wisdom you gain from being awake?
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Post by pseudosherlock on Sept 26, 2011 0:17:31 GMT -6
Thank you for the link, I've bookmarked it for later reading, and commented on your aforementioned Time blog. Much appreciated!
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 26, 2011 10:56:48 GMT -6
That's like asking, 'at what point do our legs become redundant during our trek through the desert?' Awakening never becomes redundant. It allows us to see the destination, it makes the destination real, and it moves us from where we are to where we wish to be.
One can start doing at any time. However, at first, we're very much asleep. One tries but simply fails to do. Man believes that he is doing something only to eventually discover that it was not him in control; he had almost nothing to do with the outcome of events. When we begin to learn about the Work, we can do nothing. Little by little, a man's will grows until he can do.
At the moment, I'm working on a new CoC essay. You mentioned your interest on collaborating over at the social network. P.M. me so I can get some of your input on these matters. Also, don't forget to go back and add the maroon color to your previous posts, according to your degree.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by dudetyson on Sept 26, 2011 17:51:03 GMT -6
I'm not sure anyone can read maroon, but okay here we go.
I'm used to philosophy in which theory is not pursued for its own sake, but as a means to practice. Here's some very brief Marx:
"All social life is essentially practical. All mysteries which lead theory to mysticism find their rational solution in human practice and in the comprehension of this practice.
The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it."
www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/theses.htm
So really, my question would be: what does a person realize they should do, once they are awake? Retreat from worldly affairs? Seek power? Show compassion? Or what?
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Post by sin on Sept 27, 2011 6:22:52 GMT -6
Imagine you have just been unplugged from the matrix. What realizations would you make about your own life? What ever it was that you were doing when you were jacked in, has now become irrelevant to your current existence. With your new awareness, your goals may have changed. What ever your goals are, in a sleep state, they may differ greatly in an awakened state. Then there's the matter of the day-to-day self-awareness. You were delving into the scriptures there for a while, this may also put it into perspective.
www.scribd.com/doc/64173198/Polaris-and-the-flaming-pearl
I only mention Christianity adopting the idea of the flaming pearl by the end of the essay, but it is taught that once you 'see' the pearl, you also 'see' everything with a new awareness. Like receiving a new set of senses. Food tastes different, things feel more intense, colors are more vivid, aromas more pungent, you receive visions with clarity, etc..
The 1991 film, The Rapture, starring Mimi Rogers, features the pearl. I think they used the ideology rather well in the film. There are several scenes in which the pearl is prominent. If you haven't seen it, I recommend renting it.
How can you know when the stars are right? When the signs have presented themselves? When you are awake, and when you are asleep?
That evil eye in the sky glares at you, perhaps it gives you a sense of uneasiness, or maybe you are completely unaware, sleeping, and feel lost because you haven't the first clue about what you should be doing. Passing time can be a filler, days, weeks, months, even years pass and you remain utterly clueless. What will it take to shock your system into a new state of awareness? It's highly individual, but I think a great way to start is to stop doing what you have always done. Do something new, awkward, weird, and not of your character. You love politics? Maybe its time to suspend that for a time...Experiment. Are you driving your passions, or is something else driving you?
[/color] **I didn't see Amber on the color list VS.
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 27, 2011 13:59:11 GMT -6
Good stuff, Priestess of R'lyeh Cora'Sahn. Yes, how different would our goals be if we unplugged from the Matrix? Food for thought...
Highlight the text and use any color you wish because afterwards, but before posting, you're going to take out black or green and write in amber.
For my Ipsissimus grade text, I use green but then I have to write in "light" so it reads "lightgreen". This is a good example of thinking outside the usual limitations of reality. We can program options which aren't currently or normally available... but could be, using Viridian Sorcery. Let me know if you run into trouble.
Awake!
VS
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Post by talek on Sept 27, 2011 19:24:15 GMT -6
This is why the Cult of Cthulhu will never die," Priestess of R'lyeh Cora'Sahn", it is my belief you wrote the Eye in the sky comment for me, for I love politics, and I have been observing my actions. The mechanical me loves the "old man" inside, and he has many, many allies, the jest of my short brief is how does the so called "me", the true me, motivate some of those allies of the "old man" to be at least interested in the new me, and I believe you have given that answer in your eye in the sky. Another excellent video, "is this hell?", "you know" that river;we are in heaven, why are "WE" in heaven, no heaven is over THERE, you can't see it, but if you love God it's there. Three characters, each at the same spot, but one seems to have an unknown known. Excellent!
Is this the hour of my crucifixion?
Talek Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by sin on Sept 28, 2011 10:04:15 GMT -6
I think VS and I work parallel for the most part, (case in point)we both use movies we love to convey ideas.
This reminds me of Jung's Shadow Man. It was heavily in use in the SHOWTIME series DEXTER. It was referred to as the 'Dark Passenger', I use it a lot as a conceptual model. If you haven't watched it, even just a couple of episodes will be enough to grasp the concept. There's actually a couple of psyche models being used simultaneously.
Dexter is a serial killer, but his guide has always been his adopted father. In the series his father is dead, but ever-present, like the Shadow Man. There are moments through the series in which Dexter *should* listen to his Shadow Man, and at others ignore it completely in favor of the Dark Passenger. Dexter must contend with both his nature, and working against it. He has to maintain some sort of normalcy, that his father taught him that he would NEVER have. He has to learn to 'fake it', but along his own Fool's Journey he realizes that his father was often wrong. Not only is he capable, he found that it comes more natural than he ever imagined.
Awareness is also a focal aspect, in order for Dexter to do his Work, as well as achieve some level of personal happiness. There is a strong 'habit' modeling throughout the series, not just with Dexter as the primary character, but other characters as well. You witness the effects of the 'what if' scenario, when habits are broken or disrupted.
Your comment reminded me of this. Love for the Old Man, just as we Love our old habits, and our comfort. Work, is often a discomfort, but bears more fruit.
**yea that didn't work, tried it a few different ways and I need dummy directions, apparently.
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 28, 2011 12:56:30 GMT -6
I've seen every episode of Dexter and own them all on DVD. Great series! Yes, watch the first episode and you'll probably be hooked. Bought the first book of the series (which Dexter is based on), but lent it to my Mother before I had a chance to read it. Glad it's back with a sixth season, despite Michael C. Hall's cancer. Ha! Take that universe! *
Dexter's "dark passenger" seems to be a combination of his True Will and Id, Dexter's higher calling mixed with his base urges. Sort of like a cross between Higher Forces and Primitive Instincts - which was part of my religion chart, Octave One. The Cult of Cthulhu is in tune with it's own dark passenger. We do what we want, in so far as, it is also necessary.
C'S: next time, before posting, go back and replace the word "Orange" with "Amber". Just backspace the old and type in the new. That should solve all your color issues.
Awake!
VS
* Instead, the universe claimed Spartacus. A great loss.
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Post by sin on Sept 28, 2011 13:00:08 GMT -6
weee worked that time!
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Post by sin on Sept 28, 2011 13:01:32 GMT -6
Right, dang - I don't know why I didn't think of tying that in here.
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Post by sin on Sept 28, 2011 13:17:13 GMT -6
I messed with this model back in April, but the original thread appears to be gone. Did you move it or delete it?
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Post by sin on Sept 28, 2011 13:22:04 GMT -6
I still had the image saved from my early analysis, in contrast to the cult. I'll have to take another look to see if any of my own ideas have changed since then.
That's why I went looking Haz Cthulhu eaten it?
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 28, 2011 13:22:21 GMT -6
Jason, you let us fuck your thread up!?! What happened, hoss?
I posted another comment directly on your essay. If you'd like to steer this derailed train back to "It's About Time", then please feel free to do so.
By His loathsome tentacles,
VS
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Post by sin on Sept 28, 2011 13:49:50 GMT -6
I think its all relevant, its not as if we are talking about ordering pizza here ;P
On the subject of time, I don't know if you recall one of the earlier questions you asked me about the most dominating A influence in my life. My answer was TIME.
I also talked about it in greater detail on The Ooze (TC and DarkFool as hosts, if memory serves).
I maximize time, Time can become a bit of an obsession, that you have to learn to do nothing. A sense of self-driven guilt may come over you, when doing nothing. That anxious feeling of, I should be doing something. Sometimes I get caught up in over-maximizing time that I end up spinning my wheels - that irks me. I work on that constantly. Obsessing over time, can sometimes end up as Dross time.
Using the model from Jason's essay, I think its a useful tool in terms of determining what kind of time is being spent. Nothing like another reminder of time, to beat me with! ha!
You think I'm exaggerating? I was even the clock-work pope at a wedding, when I conducted the ceremony, one of the elements of the ritual was that I smashed a clock and stopped time (symbolically).
with a hammer!
Time can fly quick, I'm often amazed how fast; especially when I look at my son, 2 more years and he's a legal free spirit. I've done a lot in Gold time thus far, but I can certainly do more. I long for the days when my adrenaline junkyism can resume!!
Seems like aeons since I've gone skydiving
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Post by dudetyson on Sept 28, 2011 23:03:08 GMT -6
Dexter's "dark passenger" seems to be a combination of his True Will and Id, Dexter's higher calling mixed with his base urges. Sort of like a cross between Higher Forces and Primitive Instincts - which was part of my religion chart, Octave One. I couldn't tell from that video if you were supporting a combo of Primitive Instincts AND Higher Forces, or preferring Higher Forces to Primitive Instincts.
In The Marriage of Heaven and Hell (which should be required reading), William Blake said that "If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise." This is almost the core of my entire belief system. If a person, in their quest for indulgence, does not end up ascending into wisdom from the inevitable repeated mistakes and failures, then they've gotten nowhere.
But if a person is noble out of obligation, or has simply collected a big pile of "wisdom" disconnected from their own experience of living a struggle, then it's not authentic and it's mostly worthless. All the beautiful, highly-structured human traits in the world are, and ought to be, simply outer shells of a selfish inner fire.
Edit: SKYDIVING??!!! HOLY SHIT
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Post by sin on Sept 29, 2011 8:48:09 GMT -6
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Post by pseudosherlock on Sept 29, 2011 23:25:58 GMT -6
I tend not to think about time much, except I have the same feeling Cora does about wasting time. I'm working to do away with that. As a matter of fact, I very proudly spent 3+ hours the other day doing nothing but sitting on the couch and considering personal matters. I planned it out and just did that all day. I think I got tired and dozed for maybe 30 minutes of time, but the rest was just sitting and doing nothing.
Years ago that would have been completely and totally impossible. Plus, since having a wife and kids, I would have been wracked with guilt and tried to create all kinds of reasons why I didn't spend my time more productively.
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Post by sin on Sept 30, 2011 6:25:56 GMT -6
Good example. If it's not self-driven, it may be driven by your spouse.
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Post by Kai'zen on Oct 5, 2011 19:54:39 GMT -6
Dexter's "dark passenger" seems to be a combination of his True Will and Id, Dexter's higher calling mixed with his base urges. Sort of like a cross between Higher Forces and Primitive Instincts - which was part of my religion chart, Octave One.
In The Marriage of Heaven and Hell (which should be required reading), William Blake said that "If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise." This is almost the core of my entire belief system. If a person, in their quest for indulgence, does not end up ascending into wisdom from the inevitable repeated mistakes and failures, then they've gotten nowhere.
I agree, sorry to post off topic in your thread Cora, but I think it would make a great addition to the reading list.
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Post by sin on Oct 6, 2011 8:32:35 GMT -6
Not off topic at all, and technically this thread belongs to us all.
I'm the second jumper in the video clip. This was among my first set of jumps, so its Tandem.
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Post by glade on Oct 8, 2011 14:08:44 GMT -6
I will bet that was a real rush. I may even try that one day.
Awake
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