Consciousness

[I AM the Way]

definitions of Consciousness:

full activity of the mind and senses, as in waking life

awareness of something for what it is; internal knowledge

the mind or the mental faculties as characterized by thought, feelings, and volition.

what does consciousness personally mean to you, and what is its relationship to reality?


Venger Satanis
Cult of Cthulhu High Priest

www.CultofCthulhu.net

[ibiss]

I am subconcious at night.
I am conscious in the morning.
But I am unconscious in the afternoon.

[bellaxxluna65]

realistically to me , i am always conscious, even in my subconscious i am aware..maybe even moreso.....almost like having eyes in the back of your head, i am always aware of my inner and outer self....sometimes maybe i don't want to be...maybe a lot of times.....even in my dream state i am conscious, i can alter the dream or stop it and continue after waking

[I AM the Way]

in the Fourth Way, just as the Cult of Cthulhu, we view "being conscious" differently than it's ordinarily defined.

here, being conscious is not the same as just being alive and experiencing the world. what we normally take as conscious is just sleep. real consciousness comes from awakening which takes concentration and effort. anyone can say, "i am conscious", but to really be in a conscious state, one needs to remember themselves.

trying to be present in the moment is a difficult thing. if one stops all thought, imagination, and information coming into the mind or originating from it, then just tries to be and keeps their attention on simply being... then you are remembering yourself. but a moment later it is most likely gone... waiting for another shock or self-created effort.

the largest obstacle to becoming conscious is that people think they have already attained this state.

this site might help: www.selfremembering.org/


Venger Satanis
Cult of Cthulhu High Priest

[bellaxxluna65]

there r obviously many levels of consciousness.......in the aspect of remembering oneself, i feel i have no choice in being conscious....to rephrase what i said earlier, i am not at the highest level of consciousness at all times....who is.....but i am alone in remembering myself, at being conscious involuntaily i know in my mind how it is, but find it difficult in explaining it....

[ibiss]

Ah even Nietze mentions consciousness is flawed when one beleives they have it.I am not always aware.Most of the times I choose to remain unaware by choice of the blissful ignorance.But when awareness does come (in tiny spurts) there is this cool electric feeling as though my head is going to open up and devour the world.Reminds me of gnosis a little.

Consciousness for me is reminiscent of the foruth way to some degree.Its being aware of what the body is doing,aware that you are moving it,aware that u may/may not be thinking and aware of where this thought comes from.Aware of your self image and the image seen by others.Aware of every little learned thing stored in the unconscious and aware of leveles of self from experience I can only call metaphoricaly the higher self (or perhaps when the multiple selves are all in unison(oneness)) and the lower (sometimes refered to reptilian) self.Its being aware of all of the following all at once and can become quite overwhelming.I can understand now why it can take years to develope.

It happens accidently after I have a momentary blackout (perhaps a type of seizure or short in the brain) which is common.After these its like the brain is a rebbooted computer and because of this everything hits me at once.

If so you claim you are in fact conscious or aware at a continuous interval than accept my applaud because such a complex technique must imply mental mastery.Being conscious is remembering oneself in this aspect.I may try all my life and only hit it in tiny intervals because I sometimes fear I may suffer a seizure from the complexity of this operation.Nonetheless no harm no gain.

I will add however tiny triggers may be implanted to bring about consciousness in a situation (Asking your self "Am I aware/conscious in this moment" or sometimes naturally in the stiffling tense atmosphere before one is about to be taken into a battle against another purson).If done write even a hand gesture or breathing should cause this enhanced awareness just as it would with gnosis or trance.

[ezzeredza]

My ownself conciousness and realization of presence and form will ultimately give me power over all so called destiny paths . And therefore allow me to change them.

[I AM the Way]

if you struggle to Self-Remember and enter a fully conscious state, then yes... you will have power your own path, your destiny.


VS

[ezzeredza]

Yes but proper utilization of it can bring much good for all.

[baphomet]

Consciousness is a sort of awareness, but in a sense I think that term is somewhat misleading...

When I say that I am aware of something, what I am aware of is usually an illusion. If I am "aware" that it is cold outside, well, there really isn't such thing as "coldness".

Consciousness is a mystery for me. The real problem, I think, is that we are limited by our own biological brains and thinking.

[Shaz'rahjeem]

bellaxxluna65 said:

realistically to me , i am always conscious, even in my subconscious i am aware..maybe even moreso..

if you have complete control of your unconscious then I would like to ask for some advise in learning this.

shail

[I AM the Way]

i am not at the highest level of consciousness at all times

she clarified this in a later post, Shail.

self-observation is one of the few ways to Awaken. it takes consistent and directed effort. remember that you are not awake, but asleep... all the time we are asleep! then say to yourself, 'i am here, now.'

mindfulness is important in breaking free of this world. unfortunately, this process of trying to Awake never stops. no one is always Awake all the time. it is a difficult thing at first, but eventually self-remembering gets a little easier.


Venger Satanis
Cult of Cthulhu High Priest

www.CultofCthulhu.net

[Shaz'rahjeem]

Understood

shail

[jameson]

Ahh mindfullness ,mental proprioception bring back some serious memories.


I will define consciousness as stillness.I will define lfe as motion.
If you are still in mind as life moves around you, you are aware of it.
If you are moving just as rapidly and unrelentig as life,you are simply lost in it.

[I AM the Way]

I will define consciousness as stillness.I will define lfe as motion. If you are still in mind as life moves around you, you are aware of it. If you are moving just as rapidly and unrelentig as life,you are simply lost in it.

well said.


VS

[eldritchentity0]

I think the term of internal or higher consciousness has to do with coming conscious of the subconscious...and unconscious..because when we wake up... we are able to to be conscious on all levels.It is much like a kundalini awakening if you ask me...

[I AM the Way]

I think the term of internal or higher consciousness has to do with coming conscious of the subconscious...and unconscious..because when we wake up... we are able to to be conscious on all levels.It is much like a kundalini awakening if you ask me...

could you expound on that?


VS

[jameson]

So then awareness of what drive one;hidden desires ,and awareness of the mechanics of how the mind works beneath the surface are the key to higher consciousness?

Sounds logical I suppose.

Is it possible to contract consciousness into a set point to infinitesimal levels? I ask because it would be amusing to become aware and sense what is going on in a cellular level in the body.I figure its easier to expand and push awareness out than pull it in right?I'm thinking there may be applications to shrinking it as well (healing maybe?).

[mari66]

I am reading an interesting book by Charles G. Leland called "Mystic Will", where he talks about training the sub-conscious mind (which in the Cabbalistic tradition is the Holy Guardian Angel) to perform whatever the person wants to achieve.

The trick is to repeat a certain mantra ( of whatever one wishes to achieve)just before that point of falling asleep.

Its a little gem of a book, as I love finding old Occult books by these Victorian Mages that paved the way for us.

I think in order to be conscious one has to look not only what is going on in your thought process, but to be aware of your surroundings.

How many people and places we pass by everyday, and not really pay any attention to???...we couldnt even describe in detail if we had to.


Maria

[Madguten]

How many people and places we pass by everyday, and not really pay any attention to???...we couldnt even describe in detail if we had to.

So very true.

I was just talking yesterday about how many traffic accidents are caused by this "autopilot" mentality. But of course the autopilot phenomena is a natural part of our flesh being. We are creatures after all. ;D

I do it myself all the time. When i walk home at night, i often get to my front door without really noticing the walk to it because i have walked these paths so many times. My body just does it while i "wonder about bigger issues".

Of course it is THIS which enables Hypnosis to actually function in real life. We CAN be put on standby and we can talk and act while we are fully unaware of it.

It dont even take much at times.

[I AM the Way]

The trick is to repeat a certain mantra (of whatever one wishes to achieve) just before that point of falling asleep.

sounds like neuro-linguistic programing. an effective technique.


VS

[astennoth]

I think to become truly conscious you need to understand how and why you are conscious in the first place.

[luxcthonis]

Oct 23, 2006 13:57:29 GMT -6 baphomet said:

Consciousness is a sort of awareness, but in a sense I think that term is somewhat misleading...

When I say that I am aware of something, what I am aware of is usually an illusion. If I am "aware" that it is cold outside, well, there really isn't such thing as "coldness".

Consciousness is a mystery for me. The real problem, I think, is that we are limited by our own biological brains and thinking.

This is my favorite answer.

I am sort of at odds with the philosophy that consciousness is to be had by a stillness of Self, a knowledge of Self, etc. Because of this I like to hark back to the good ole Fight Club method, as this is the closest I have found to an antithesis of popular ideas concerning this and other pertinent subjects.
Then again, I've simplified many things with regard to my paradigm, therefore I have very different definitions of the terms Self-Remembering, and Awakening.