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Post by boksmutant on Aug 17, 2011 21:43:49 GMT -6
I threw this together while learning about You tube. I want to know what you guys think of this idea in relation to the COC & tell me what I'm missing. I want to build on this idea, but want it to jive with our beliefs as well.
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Post by sin on Aug 18, 2011 6:58:35 GMT -6
I think this is your own concept, and its good. I especially enjoyed watching your body mechanics as you explained it. The way your face lit up, when you said something like "this is the coolest one I've ever come up with" - YOU really came through there.
I would say keep working the idea. It's yours. In terms of what its 'missing', I don't think that's quite what you are looking for. I'm not going to tell you what to think, how to perceive reality. We all have our crazy ideas about what is and isn't. I would say instead, that you should keep working this angle, and then perhaps write a blog explaining it in further detail.
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Post by boksmutant on Aug 18, 2011 14:01:16 GMT -6
I wonder who's idea it is, it sounds like two hippies on acid type talk, but I like it:)
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Post by I AM the Way on Aug 20, 2011 9:39:10 GMT -6
Very nice. Had to turn the volume way up to hear you, though. Well spoken, brother.
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VS
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Post by boksmutant on Aug 20, 2011 13:24:51 GMT -6
In this model, Cthulhu would be a being that has gone back & forth (between the source & the rim) so many times that he sees himself more valuable as a observer, a puzzle cracker of sorts in the "Sources Game". He found out that there's more to existence than just dreaming of a new & distant realm like ours to watch run amok. And as therapeutic & necessary as THAT IS, there might be something missing. A greater lesson to be learned.
Cthulhu's motives in the GAME are his own, he found a reason to step back & stop where he was at to get a better view. The best I can imagine is that he represents a Fourth Way "SHOCK" that will jump start the source to an even greater level. This would take him a long time to say the least, but just as there are simple parts of a dream that you can easily understand (the closer rings), so there are the most distant parts of your dream(the rim) that make no sense & require massive soul searching.
Thanks for the input.
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Post by boksmutant on Aug 21, 2011 16:07:34 GMT -6
I wasn't happy with the first video so I gave it another go, I think I explain myself better in this one.
Being inspired by all the videos,interviews & contributions of fellow Cultists from now & in the past, I felt compelled to add something of to the mix. I've been wanting to do a you tube video of something for a long time but had no reason. The COC has given me one,hopefully I can go further than this sometime in the future.
Thanks for comments.
Hail the Cult, Hail Cthulhu!
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Post by dudetyson on Aug 21, 2011 19:37:02 GMT -6
If you want to know "whose" idea it is, well it's pretty ancient and widespread. There's a general term called the "Otherworld." Most religions have one -- basically a place other than here, a realm of spirit, or at least a different realm. Rather than being a place, it can also be a state of mind, or both.
Some LHPers are hostile to the idea, because they find freedom in pure materialism. Some think that the existence of an Otherworld is crucial for liberation from the body. Me, I'm indifferent; I'm for my own freedom no matter the context.
Plato had the whole "source" thing going with his realm of Forms.
I wonder -- no matter how high you ascend, do the life questions really change? Okay, maybe the material you're dealing with is different -- maybe simple matter is replaced with a more manipulable realm of energy, light, ideas, etc. But why do anything? What should I do? Do my actions really matter? How do I define what matters? Whether I am a god or a man really seems to be more an issue of environmental details.
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Post by boksmutant on Aug 26, 2011 16:32:08 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply on this. I guess I can call this boksmutants model then? sweet. I'll need to put alot more work into it though, more science, more background.
I'm hoping there's a way to keep it less about Gods & also about science. Haven't figured out how though.There are no real rules I suppose for life style besides just making your actions conscious. The Fourth Way I think fits fine for expectations. But even pure Atheist/materialists live by some rules of consciousness. They just don't like to name it.
Figuring out the rules & make up of each level/realm will need some work. Thanks again.
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Post by dudetyson on Aug 26, 2011 21:07:49 GMT -6
It's odd that, acknowledging that this reality may only be a tiny sublevel of a greater reality, makes me live closer to how I believe I should, in this reality alone.
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Post by sin on Aug 27, 2011 7:24:46 GMT -6
The second video is more clear. Well done. Several religions, have emanation theory. As you get further from the source, the emanation loses its integrity, which is why the adherents do all they possibly can to rejoin with it. Commune with it. I did a paper on Rastafarianism, not too long ago - www.scribd.com/doc/46613221/RastafariSelassi's famous quote, in which he states firmly "I am not an emanation of God, I am of God". This is often misinterpreted to mean that he is claiming himself to be God. His belief that he has not degraded as a cheap copy, which is what gave him the direct insight into the mind of God (as many prophets claim), is either understood or lost. The more you believe you are communing with God, you manifest these experiences. This was my main point of contention with my paper and pod on Thought-forms. www.scribd.com/doc/62723930/Thought-Forms-by-SIN-JONESBelief and devotion rituals are paramount, in having these experiences that have been coined 'supernatural', which I feel strongly is negated by human perception. I don't use these terms 'supernatural' or 'paranormal' because I feel that they are quite natural, and don't exceed the parameters of what is 'normal' but are perceived that way in the absence of understanding. These are just my opinions of course, believe what you must to pull out your gnosis and have an ecstatic existence full of wonderment and profound insight. It's a working model, which was the point of my original comment. Work it, work with it, and the pool is endless. The reason this theme can be found in many religions and by indivudals which may not have been exposed to them - I feel, is the inherent ability of man. He is an intuitive being, the gut knows certain truths, even if they are absolutely deunde in expression. There are levels of reality we experience, as we create them. Always create, never stop creating. It's your birth rite. This dualism: material/non-material is unneeded as we are both. We are biological bodies, yes - but the essence of who we are and what we experience is both and neither. Man should push the limitations of his understanding, knock the frame off of it, in fact. I have no doubt in my mind that, much like the conceptual model used in the Maxtrix, we can see what we are, at the subatomic level - beyond binary. Moving atoms around like they are merely building blocks, seeing them broken down to energy, light and take those imaginings that seem so insane, so imaginary that they can't be 'real', and make them. This both astonishes and terrifies us, on the subconscious level - in my opinion.
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Post by talek on Oct 19, 2011 19:55:41 GMT -6
I liked your video and your explanation of your perceptions of the source of all things, the video was good, except I too had to turn my volume way up to listen, and I want to hear what you have to say, for this is interesting. I too held similar believes in the past, and the Gnostic's are right in line with this theology as far as my knowledge on Gnosticism goes.
I was just wondering if this all came from your perception or if some of these ideals came from other sources?, the reason why I ask this question, is because it is almost directly in line with a view I held, so I was wondering if humans all have a natural conception of the so called supernatural or the source, I too do-not like to name this supernatural for I hold the believes that all things in the universe at least universe A are natural seen and unseen, it is just our senses can not oblige us with this ability to compensate the unseen.
Now days I work with the Cthulhu Mythos and our Cult's paradigm as far as I can with the belief of Ancient Astronauts as possibly being the lesser gods of mankind who rule and enslave us for other, other worldly or multi dimensional pursuits and interest, all of my theories coming from unconventional sources and my own experience of an up close and personal encounter of the first kind, that had an unnatural overwhelming indescribable presence and a presence of evil.
I equate knowing the presence of evil to my experience of conducting live combat patrols against a hostile enemy force to which one can definitely feel the change in atmosphere and perception as I did in my encounter of the first kind. This experience of the first kind was out of time and space, for my senses could not comprehend all that took place, and trying to make since of such an encounter is madness in it's own way.
I hope you will continue with your theories, they interest me a lot, for I want to know what is this life, humans have, and what is this human experience "all about". I would like to hear and see more. Excellent vid! Ia Ia Cthulhu!. My bad on the paragraphs.
The void approacheth!
Talek Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu!
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 19, 2011 23:16:16 GMT -6
I liked your video and your explanation of your perceptions of the source of all things, the video was good, except I too had to turn my volume way up to listen, and I want to hear what you have to say, for this is interesting. I too held similar believes in the past, and the Gnostic's are right in line with this theology as far as my knowledge on Gnosticism goes. I was just wondering if this all came from your perception or if some of these ideals came from other sources?, the reason why I ask this question, is because it is almost directly in line with a view I held, so I was wondering if humans all have a natural conception of the so called supernatural or the source, I too do-not like to name this supernatural for I hold the believes that all things in the universe at least universe A are natural seen and unseen, it is just our senses can not oblige us with this ability to compensate the unseen. Now days I work with the Cthulhu Mythos and our Cult's paradigm as far as I can with the belief of Ancient Astronauts as possibly being the lesser gods of mankind who rule and enslave us for other, other worldly or multi dimensional pursuits and interest, all of my theories coming from unconventional sources and my own experience of an up close and personal encounter of the first kind, that had an unnatural overwhelming indescribable presence and a presence of evil, and I equate knowing the presence of evil to my experience of conducting live combat patrols against a hostile enemy force to which one can definitely feel the change in atmosphere and perception as I did in my encounter of the first kind, this experience of the first kind was out of time and space, for my senses could not comprehend all that took place, and trying to make since of such an encounter is madness in it's own way. I hope you will continue with your theories, they interest me a lot, for I want to know what is this life, humans have, and what is this human experience "all about". I would like to hear and see more. Excellent vid! Ia Ia Cthulhu!. The void approacheth! Talek Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu! Paragraphs are your friend, brother.
Awake!
VS
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 20, 2011 1:01:49 GMT -6
I felt this vid was 10 minutes too long so I shortened it. I also didn't speak on Cthulhu as much as I wanted so I changed the name as well, sorry. Who knows, I might just do the whole thing over some time soon just to have it all in there. I am a perfectionist with stuff so just bare with me.
"I was just wondering if this all came from your perception or if some of these ideals came from other sources?"
Honestly I feel I was inspired by a lot of modern RPG's, but at least 60% is my own concoction. Who knows, I've seen so many movies I really just can't tell:)
"I hope you will continue with your theories, they interest me a lot, for I want to know what is this life, humans have, and what is this human experience "all about". I would like to hear and see more. Excellent vid! Ia Ia Cthulhu!."
Thanks brother! There are probably a bunch of books out there that could help me refine it, so I do keep an eye out.
I too am completely fascinated by our race & where we fit in to the massive cosmos out there. One thing I love to wrap my brain around is the concept of infinity. We have no telescope that can reach outward enough, or microscope that can look inward enough to see an ending. So i might want to broaden on that.
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 26, 2011 11:53:58 GMT -6
Here's another video I did in hopes of breaking me out of the isolation I've kept myself in for years. I can see I want my videos to be more entertaining for the public & ultimately I want a lot of views. So I plan on doing a "reenactment of events" using extra video footage to piece together the story. Which would be me playing out the role of the victim/partner that was subjected to the events. Could be more entertaining when you see me dressed as the victim screaming for dear life as I also play myself in the midst of it all.
I'm a fan of You Tube & hate wasting my time on all the bullshit people put on there with their false titles. I want my video's to be true to what I'm doing. If it's cool or funny, I want the public to decide.
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