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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 4, 2006 14:18:22 GMT -6
i'm moving myself, the Cult of Cthulhu, and whoever wants to Awaken... in a certain way, a path of endarkenment. if people don't like it, then they don't have to follow. yeah, those are some good questions, Onde.
i intend to offer whatever kind of guidance i can. i see the world in a certain way, a perspective that many of you share. i don't consider it some kind of arrogance or boast to say that i am more sensitive to the Old One's vibrations, i see things deeper. i'm here for spiritual guidance, material 'real world' guidance, and of course magical guidance. whatever way i can assist, please let me know.
it may take me a day or two to respond, but i am always here for Cthulhu's Cultists.
a Cultist must see for themselves and judge for themselves if they are more awake or more asleep after learning and applying this teaching. i suppose one could observe another's advancement and try measuring his state of wakefulness, but it really must be confirmed by the individual.
i consider being Awake to be an end in itself. anything a human being can do in their usual state of sleep, being on autopilot, they can do better if they are awake. it is the difference between being mechanical and being conscious. everything stems from Self-Remembering, observing oneself, creating a magnetic center out of the most evolved "I's" (the "I's" that wish to work), avoiding negativity, etc. once these have been more or less mastered, untold knowledge, power, and control will follow...
Venger Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest www.CultofCthulhu.net
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Post by m2alik on Oct 28, 2006 23:03:30 GMT -6
To Me Awakening is The same. Most people don't like the idea of considering themselves asleep when "supposely" wide awake.
I learned that by being more Awake you are Actually a nicer and more Aware of the needs of others too. Also from a Awakened veiw you realize All others do not do anything but are at the whims of cause and effect. Most people can't do anything it just happens.
To do Ah that is the goal of ALL True Magicians not just mumbo jumbo. To do is a Godlike State and can raise others, but, must be worked Only individually. It is a Promethean Perspective and well worth the WORK.
A side note I belong to a Fourth Group and do actually practice it. Thank You.
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 28, 2006 23:34:37 GMT -6
i can tell. you have an excellent grasp of Fourth Way teachings.
to my knowledge, i'm one of the only people to include the 4th way in a Left Hand Path / black magic paradigm. although i'm sure there must be some Temple of Set people who do the same.
i've found that most 4th way students shy away from anything that isn't directly from Ouspensky and/or Gurdjieff. and of course, this is another mechanical attitude: taking ideas in a two-dimensional, or limited, way.
VS
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Post by m2alik on Oct 29, 2006 13:13:13 GMT -6
I do consider and Agree with you. Most on The Left Hand Path don't like the idea of having to evolve.
Yes I do rituals of Black Magic too. I have a soft spot for Lovecraft and Necronomicon magic. I am also a Satanist too.Thank You.
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Post by pyro99 on May 2, 2007 17:35:45 GMT -6
I am now awake, very sleepy though...but awake!!!!
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Post by I AM the Way on May 3, 2007 11:30:09 GMT -6
are you really Awake? or are you just under the illusion of wakefullness. is there effort behind it... struggle? if you recognize your sleeping state, realize the necessity to Awake, and then fight to attain it (if only for a little while)... you may acheive it. from there, anything is possible.
but do not think that you are Awake just because you are walking around, talking, and acting. that is the chief obstacle to Awakening, we think we already have it.
VS
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Post by laughingdead on May 3, 2007 21:51:22 GMT -6
are you really Awake? or are you just under the illusion of wakefullness. is there effort behind it... struggle? if you recognize your sleeping state, realize the necessity to Awake, and then fight to attain it (if only for a little while)... you may acheive it. from there, anything is possible.
but do not think that you are Awake just because you are walking around, talking, and acting. that is the chief obstacle to Awakening, we think we already have it.
VS Those speakers on the stoplights really do work on some... If youve seen the same movie I have hehe...
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Post by youma on May 4, 2007 19:42:11 GMT -6
Yup. Admitting that one is ignorant is the first step towards wisdom. I'm probably incredibly annoying when scolding those who put down others in general, thinking that they are naturally superior to them; but I'm convinced that it's themselves that they hurt most, in addition of being often unpleasant to talk with...
Granted, I do no take the same path as most people here, and some may think I'm mistaken, but I fully agree that the illusion of success is amongst the greatest obstacles to actual advancement.
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Post by eratciv on Sept 26, 2007 10:19:58 GMT -6
I have awakened a couple of times over the past two years but it was during rather painful moments, but I could not maintain it for long and I am hesitant to try again. At first it felt almost like a drowning sensation but looking back on it I feel more as if maybe it was the exact opposite, emerging from a pool of ignorance for the first time and tasting a bit of understanding.
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 26, 2007 10:43:35 GMT -6
it's very difficult to explain the process and sensation of being Awake. it's a bit easier to experience though. once you realize that you are always asleep, you can try to not be. watch yourself, observe what you're doing, and think to yourself, "i am here, now."
everyone falls back asleep after a few moments. it takes patient and consistent effort to remember yourself in order for it to last minutes at a time.
and what good is it? it's the difference between remaining a machine and becoming a God.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 1, 2007 11:54:59 GMT -6
thanks for posting your keen observations, H'smack'li.
indeed, most people don't want to wake up. why put forth the effort, have greater responsibility, and come face to face with unpleasant realizations if one doesn't have to?
of course, we know that sleeping human beings are nothing more than mud beneath the Lesser Gods' feet. if one wants power, truth, and glory... then one must Awake!
wakefulness comes with a sense of absurdity; it is a jarring feeling. at once everything becomes crystal clear and utter nonsense simultaneously. not only the outside world but our inner selves as well.
VS
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Post by luxcthonis on Oct 3, 2007 14:42:11 GMT -6
Interestingly enough, I seem to Awaken easier in stores. There may be some race-memory connected with this, along the same lines as Hubbard's theory that all theaters, especially modern theaters, are fashioned after those which were used by Xenu for mass Thetan programmation. -H.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Jan 25, 2009 15:52:22 GMT -6
Sometimes it is overwhelming to take in so much at once. To "see" all that is going on all around me. It's almost like having ADD, and it's hard to focus singularly when focusing on everything. And I feel sorry for the sleeper.. their perception is so low, they are easy to surprise and startle, and will ask me "Do you work here?" even though I have a friken walmart badge on and I'm wearing a blue top, khakis, and carring a knife (boxcutter).
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 27, 2009 16:16:59 GMT -6
that's a pretty good summary. yeah, The Fourth Way is a bit dated. i remember when i first started reading it a decade ago, i was initially put off by Ouspensky's arrogant tone. when someone asked him a question or put their view to him, Ouspensky would usually just say, "no, that is not right. this is what it should be." later, i realized that it was probably the best way.
when teaching an esoteric subject, one can't get bogged down in protecting people's feelings or arguing the validity of someone's wrong approach. make a clean cut and be done with it.
as for the hunger, fasting can be a fine method to help with remember oneself (just the same as painting one's fingernails green), but controlling appetite alone isn't the whole story. at most, it's just one of a thousand tools for something greater. in the Work, there is needless suffering and intentional suffering. the first is mechanical, the second is conscious. we must learn to practice intentional suffering.
more about such things in Liber A:O.
VS
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Post by bketsune on Jan 29, 2009 20:42:17 GMT -6
I just had a really messed up vision type thing. But first let me explain whats happened the past few weeks.
I have been experimenting with much magick that is beyond my usual list. I tried a mixture of Enochenian and Cthulhu type meditation ritual. The images i saw during the ritual trance were very messed up. One included the sight of black and white animals being slaughtered, then the words being said in a EXTREMELY dark tone, "like sheep to the slaughter, the blind ones walk the earth numbered and tagged". Then after that i saw an image of some person whom i have never seen, suddenly his mouth tore open to reveal a tentacle. It sprang about, as the guy gasped for air. His eyes going as red as blood. His face turning blue.
Okay after that i felt weird. Like i was watching myself in the third person. Not being able to control anything i did. I literally saw myself from the back of my body in third person. I could get back to my body very quickly, but it only lasted a few minutes. I posted a story on here whilst i was in that mode. I am really not the one who wrote that. Well my body is, but i am not.
After a week or so it faded away.
A few hours ago i tried to go into a awakening type mediation. After about 10 minutes i started seeing images again. One showed a plain of dark matter, oozing around, with hills in the distance and DARK blue background. There were Towers of Black masses, with round holes with tentacle type thing writhing in and out of it.
One showed a peaceful family, sitting down watching T.V. Then suddenly everything changed from peaceful, into hectic as their walls went black, their eyes darkened, and their mouths removed themselves to show Teeth sharp as knives. Blood covering their couch, and a deep voice once again saying something. but this time i could not understand it because it sounded like it was being muffled by water or a really thick pillow or something.
All of this i am not lying about, this is my first hand experience and nothing more.
I am not on drugs, i am although (Blank) so this might just be hormones.
But i also have the feeling that something is watching me now, and is waiting for me to turn around or sumthing.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 30, 2009 10:34:17 GMT -6
sounds like you've had some disturbing visions. is it because of the Mythos, enochian, both of them combined? or would you have seen such things without them?
anyway, those scenes sound unsettling.
VS
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Post by whatsupable on May 21, 2009 9:54:54 GMT -6
well i am awair of that i sleep but dont know how to get awaiken readed something about self remebering. could you explain that to me.
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Post by I AM the Way on May 21, 2009 10:41:50 GMT -6
yes, self-remembering is our first and best defense against sleeping through life. what is self-remembering about? it's about being mindful, awareness. being attentive to one's physical, emotional, and intellectual centers. seeing through this world's illusions. realizing that you are you, here and now.
try to remember yourself at least three times a day. self-remembering takes effort, it does not come by accident. we are most successful at remembering ourselves when confronted by something unusual, uncomfortable, or disturbing.
for instance, if you brushed your teeth with your less-dominant hand. that would be unusual.
or tried to really see yourself when you have an itch and refuse to scratch it. that would be uncomfortable.
or you get a glimpse of how you really are... many "I"s which identify with everything that comes into view. you see a commercial for a cologne and maybe you hate it or love it for whatever reason. the commercial is actually controlling you. you have no power, the cologne now has power over you. your instant emotional reaction is mere identification and has nothing to do with your essence, your true self. the internet is full of people that express these automatic opinions which helps no one.
our physical actions are mechanical. our emotions are mechanical. our intellectual thoughts are mechanical. we live on auto-pilot. stop yourself next time you are about to act as a machine.
VS
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on May 21, 2009 18:07:33 GMT -6
To me it seems that the 4th way and awakening is fundamental to to the cult of cthulhu. Every thing is interchangeable. Even Cthulhu could be replaced by Satan, or some old pagan. The magic is entirely personal.
Not practicing the 4th way, in some for or another depending on what soots you, is like a Buddhist not trying to be enlightened. Or Christian not bothering with any form of prayer, it just doesn't work to well.
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Post by whatsupable on May 25, 2009 13:37:55 GMT -6
yes, self-remembering is our first and best defense against sleeping through life. what is self-remembering about? it's about being mindful, awareness. being attentive to one's physical, emotional, and intellectual centers. seeing through this world's illusions. realizing that you are you, here and now.
try to remember yourself at least three times a day. self-remembering takes effort, it does not come by accident. we are most successful at remembering ourselves when confronted by something unusual, uncomfortable, or disturbing.
for instance, if you brushed your teeth with your less-dominant hand. that would be unusual.
or tried to really see yourself when you have an itch and refuse to scratch it. that would be uncomfortable.
or you get a glimpse of how you really are... many "I"s which identify with everything that comes into view. you see a commercial for a cologne and maybe you hate it or love it for whatever reason. the commercial is actually controlling you. you have no power, the cologne now has power over you. your instant emotional reaction is mere identification and has nothing to do with your essence, your true self. the internet is full of people that express these automatic opinions which helps no one.
our physical actions are mechanical. our emotions are mechanical. our intellectual thoughts are mechanical. we live on auto-pilot. stop yourself next time you are about to act as a machine.
VS really thaks vs, if you have more thinks that could work like the theeth breeshing thing could you post them? i also try this whit eating no more candies. (i really hate it and is that what you mean whit that we have no control about the machine?) ia ia the hunger for more (exept the candies )
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