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Post by pyramidhead333 on Oct 29, 2010 18:16:42 GMT -6
Hi, I'm almost ready to renounce Christianity for good and go on a Mythos path, but I think I'd be best off with one of my own, since the Order of the Old Ones (from the Grimoire of the Necronomicon) only allows people 18 or older (I'm 17), and I just don't think the Cult of Cthulhu is right for me.
So, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for me, and how I can make spells. I have one in my inbox, but I need more than just that one. In other words, how do you make a spell that works? Do you just have to believe it's gonna work, or is it more complex than that?
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Oct 29, 2010 18:32:45 GMT -6
Hi, I'm almost ready to renounce Christianity for good and go on a Mythos path, but I think I'd be best off with one of my own, since the Order of the Old Ones (from the Grimoire of the Necronomicon) only allows people 18 or older (I'm 17), and I just don't think the Cult of Cthulhu is right for me. So, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for me, and how I can make spells. I have one in my inbox, but I need more than just that one. In other words, how do you make a spell that works? Do you just have to believe it's gonna work, or is it more complex than that? Well I for one am going to greatly miss your presence here! Awake! |
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Oct 29, 2010 18:36:09 GMT -6
Whoa, I never said I was leaving the forums. I just meant that I would be starting a new Mythos path.
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 30, 2010 10:22:31 GMT -6
Belief is the biggest part of it. But there are some good symbols & ways to ritualize your spell craft.
I use physicaly painful positions as a focus. Tightening of muscles & stretching.
It 's a easy way to release the energy you've built.
Awake!
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Post by xiaogui17 on Oct 31, 2010 12:50:45 GMT -6
Whatever Mythos you develop must have a metanarrative that is relevant to your life.
All religions have an ultimate value: forgiveness (modern Christianity), valor (Vikings), ahimsa/harmlessness (reformed Hinduism), learning (Luciferianism/Ophite Gnosticism), etc. Personally, I value a Spencerian sense of evolution.
The story and figures that make up the Mythos must embody that value in a compelling way. In Christianity, the ideal of forgiveness is embodied in a martyr that pays the debts of other and begs forgiveness for his persecutors with his dying breath. For Luciferians or Ophite Gnostics, the ideal of learning is embodied in a defiant teacher that is willing to suffer for the sake of imparting knowledge to them. Ayn Rand's fiction can be seen as a legend that embodies Objectivist ideals.
For me, a metanarrative of cleansing via consumption of that which decays is most meaningful for me. This is can be depicted in a number of ways: biodebridement (medical maggots cleansing wounds by consuming necrotic flesh), Garra Rufa (fish that eat dead skin cells and callous), the Langoliers (timekeepers in a Stephen King novel by the same name that eat that which falls behind).
I see the Cthulhu Mythos in much the same way. Debased cultists instinctually seek their own destruction and desire to be eaten, purifying the human race. Advanced Cultists seek not only the purification of the world, but also of themselves; the Ancient Ones are a force of biodebridement who cleanse us of our weaknesses of body, mind, and soul.
In formulating your Mythos, first figure out what you value. Then envision beings and narratives that embody that value.
ia ia Cthulhu fhtagn!
Vanessa
Esoteric Wizard of the Terrible Darkness
Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Nov 13, 2010 19:09:26 GMT -6
This is a very interesting topic.I know a few guys that have Mixed the mythos Tales of Lovecraft with those from chaosium books with the necronomicon of Simon as well as Mr.Tyson,Hoodoo magick and Druidism as well.
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Post by thebloodbrew on Nov 13, 2010 20:52:39 GMT -6
Has anyone thought of a mythos stating that we are an incarnation of the gods? They are sleeping, and they only awaken when we awaken. What if cthulhu is your next door neighbor?
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Nov 13, 2010 21:18:44 GMT -6
Has anyone thought of a mythos stating that we are an incarnation of the gods? They are sleeping, and they only awaken when we awaken. What if cthulhu is your next door neighbor? Interesting idea, but not the right path for me. I've pretty much made my decision. My path is similar to that of Tyson's. I serve Cthulhu and Shub-Niggurath, and believe They have many different names. Shub-Niggurath is Lilith, Kali, Dionysus (who is a male Greek deity, but keep in mind Shub-Niggurath is a Great Old One and thus beyond male and female), and many others. Now, it isn't just Tyson I get my sources from, but let's say it was from a friend of mine. Joel. Somebody may recognize who I'm talking about  Personally, I also think that these could be different forms of the Goddess, rather than "Her" just being trapped between the forms of the horrifying black cloud-like entity with tentacles and hooves, or that of a jet-black goat with both male and female sex organs. Cthulhu, I still don't know other names of "His." I don't consider "Him" the war god that Tyson does, so I can't really equate "Him" with any other deities. If you ask me, Simon's interpretation wasn't very good. He just equates each of the Great Old Ones with a Sumerian god who just happens to have a similar name (i.e. Azathoth=Azag-Thoth, Shub-Niggurath=Ishniggurab, Cthulhu=Kutulu, etc). Not very creative, if you ask me. But that's just what I think. Tyson's ideas make more sense. |
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Post by Verins'Sharaz on Nov 21, 2010 7:11:25 GMT -6
Hey Sutter,
In our past dealings, I always found you to be an insightful & discerning gentleman despite your youth. If you haven't already, look into gnostic texts as that is the main source of Tyson's material; in fact, his creation allegory about the goddess being trapped in the form of the earth is almost word for word from Gnosticism.
In Simon's defense, as it is the Nec that I work with centrally, on the surface it looks like he just went pelmel & threw together his correspondences, but there are some deeper connections with those correspondences that you might be interested in investigating. Simon isn't for everyone, neither is his system, & that is no disparagement on anyone as each of us needs to figure out what works best for us.
As xiaogui17 stated, you take with you the best of everything you work with & that forms the foundation of your unique path. For me, the Work in the Simon is my central focus, but Fourth Way, Mythos, Taoism, & other elements also play a major role. You'll find that the deeper you look, the more connections between the apparently divergent you will see. All true paths of initiation & awakening share the same experiences & results even if the imagery & methodology differs.
If you are interested, I have some excellent works on pdf concerning these subjects & would be more than happy to renew our acquaintance & discuss these things with you. Pm me if you are interested!
Best of luck & Blessings!
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Post by ThvrzOna8 on Nov 21, 2010 14:55:22 GMT -6
Magick is applying one's WILL and accord in order to manifest wanted desires! Aleister Crowley was highly in touch with this concept, as he took many belief systems and merged them together as one! Over all passion, strength, faith and patience is essential to developing your own belief and or following brother! Stay strong and focus on your goal and overtime Watch in Awe you Magickal essence manifest into reality! Hail the STRONG!
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Personally, I also think that these could be different forms of the Goddess, rather than "Her" just being trapped between the forms of the horrifying black cloud-like entity with tentacles and hooves, or that of a jet-black goat with both male and female sex organs.
