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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on May 7, 2011 21:40:08 GMT -6
The Infernal Mandate of Satanism and and the two biggest waylayers of LAvey's Age of Satan.
There is are was much talk about the Infernal Mandate give to LaVey to found the Church of Satan,which Aquino says was passed to him when he invoked Satan in the form of Set when the CoS was going though a moment of Crisis,which lead to him leaving the CoS and forming the Temple of Set because he said the Infernal madate was passed on to him by Satan in the form of Set.
And from the condition Satanism is in with the CoS leadership claiming if it's not CoS brand X it's not Satanism,and denying Satan as a real being,and thus trying to redefine who and what Satan and Satanism is,and the ToS essentially say if it's not ToS brand X the person or group is not really Satanic and also constantly bickering with the CoS over whose the real satanists,and who and whats real satanism,they have essentially way laid The Age of Satan that LaVey ushered in.
So as of May 4th 2011 I have ritually called up on Satan and have recieved the Infernal Madate from Satan that both Groups have betrayed to start a New Satanic Church and Priesthood and restart the Age of Satan that both churches and waylayed through endless BS.
I have went so far as to contact them both with the same email and inform them.
Email is enclosed here as well to show what I have sent them.:
Greets to whom it may Concern:
My name is Xanos Satanis,
I am here to inform the Priesthoods of both the Church of Satan,and the Temple of Set,that as of May 4th 2011during ritual Invocation of Satan, the Dark Prince Satan has passed on the Infernal Mandate to me,and I now have his authority to start a new Satanic Church and a new Priesthood to restart the Satanic Age that both orginizations have disrupted first though the Church of Satan's denial of the existant of Satan as anything but a mere symbol and the constant bickering between both the Orginizations as to which one is truly Satanic and promoting true Satanism,and the Church of Satan's leadership constantly trying to define Satanism as what they and only they are doing .
Sincerly
Xanos Satanis
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on May 8, 2011 0:20:52 GMT -6
Well from my understanding of astrology, the age of Satan isn't supposed to begin until December 21st, 2012... But then again, I've never really placed much stock in astrology. But who knows! Anyway, if they send you a response, I'd be delighted to read it!
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on May 8, 2011 10:39:39 GMT -6
Well from my understanding of astrology, the age of Satan isn't supposed to begin until December 21st, 2012... But then again, I've never really placed much stock in astrology. But who knows! Anyway, if they send you a response, I'd be delighted to read it! Hey, i'll be glade to read it too ;D Well astology is actually good for some things but personally I don't think that it's got much to do with when a certian age starts.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on May 8, 2011 14:28:33 GMT -6
Well I have though about something;
On one hand you will have the CoS denying there ever was a mandate,and if i'm not doing it their way they will start claiming I am not what they pretend to be a real Satanist,and on the other hand the ToS will say probably start proclaiming they are the one and only group with the Infernal Mandate,and that it was not and can not be taken from them and given to another person to restart the Age of Satan,and if i'm not part of their group then i'm not satanic.
So basically the truth is going to start a shite storm because they are both to intrenched in their polices to realize they have grown hollow and petrified and are neither prgressing nor regressing but have in fact stalled out and become petrified,and are the two major factors and influences in the squabbling among members of the Left hand path/satanic religion.
And the fact that people use terms like the Satanic and the Satanist Scene shows the corruptness that has over taken the CoS and oozed out into our religion,because it's degenerated for many into a Scene!
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Post by sin on May 8, 2011 14:50:33 GMT -6
Satanic sub-culture? WTF is that about, splain it to meeeeeeee.
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Post by sin on May 8, 2011 15:01:12 GMT -6
I wanted to ask you, if you've ever run accross Magus Jesus Krist (akaTsirk Susej) of the Embassy of Lucifer. He used to be a member of a yahoo group I had a few years ago called the Satanic Mind, and I was in-turn a member of his. He was data mining from Satanists to write his books and declare his own mandate, which he did in 2000. He declared the Aeon of Lucifer and opened his 'temple' in 2001. Some of the Satanists on the group were none-too-happy about being 'used' for his deviced, but I had written a declaration of purpose which they neglected to take heed of, thus making themselves tools. I took no issue with his data mining, he sent me a private message asking me for my expressed permission to mine from my own writing and I gave that permission.
From what I remember, he too wrote the Temple of Set, but received no reply. He just decided to go forward without the 'handing off' of the mandate, that he was hoping to receive from the TOS.
Lavey picked up from Crowley, and Acquino picked up from Lavey but took ques from Crowley when he wrote the book Coming Forth by Night (similar to The Book of Law and written in the same manner) but to my knowledge the CoS has never officially confirmed a mandate, they mostly attribute it to rumor and heresay, much of which came out of the TOS.
At the end of the day, I don't know why this at all matters - if you want to ride the Aeon bandwagon, you can do so without the expressed permission or acknowledgement by either organization. I wouldn't hold my breath for a reply.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on May 8, 2011 16:48:54 GMT -6
Satanic sub-culture? WTF is that about, splain it to meeeeeeee. well it's seen the term on line a lot and have "gag me with a barbwire covered spoon" heard a few use the term Seems like people are hoping on the Satanism band wagon because it's hip and kool turning a Religion into a scene...gag..gasp
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on May 8, 2011 16:54:11 GMT -6
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Post by I AM the Way on May 8, 2011 18:53:17 GMT -6
I created the Eldritch Mandate based off the Infernal Mandate which Aquino declared while still a member of the Church of Satan.
cthulhu-cult.com/?p=64
Maybe I should re-post that on the website or CoC social network?
Awake!
VS
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on May 8, 2011 19:18:44 GMT -6
I created the Eldritch Mandate based off the Infernal Mandate which Aquino declared while still a member of the Church of Satan.
cthulhu-cult.com/?p=64
Maybe I should re-post that on the website or CoC social network?
Awake!
VS
repost ....repost ;D
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Post by dudetyson on May 8, 2011 21:07:33 GMT -6
First, I want to wish you success in your quest to reclaim Satanism for people who are not idiotic deuschbags. However, I think you should realize that the ToS is probably sort of a sister organization to what you might be doing and not an enemy.
No offense Timotheus, but I am 100% positive the ToS will just ignore you, because the fact is, they are a highly professional and successful organization that is not degenerating whatsoever, except perhaps for being rather boring.
They really don't bother to debate ANYONE over pettiness such as "who has the infernal mandate"; they don't need to, because they're very successful without attempting to recruit via trolling. If you're not reading Stephen Flowers or at least acknowledging his wisdom you're making a big mistake. I've benefited from other ToS authors as well.
Also, they are probably open-minded and realistic enough to entertain that a mandate from a supernatural being probably really belongs to anyone who takes it seriously. They were a lot more confrontational in the 1990s when the Internet was getting started and there was almost nothing visible but the CoS and ToS. It wasn't so much as "ToS is the only thing" as "the ToS is really a thing despite the CoS' claims to be the only thing." Since then, that trend has disappeared, with the ToS retreating into private channels or with individual members having whatever limited interactions they desire.
In fact, they prefer to avoid the shithole called the Internet "left-hand path" for how amateurish and drama-infested it is. They are focused on strengthening their magick, passing on the tradition to worthy seekers, and not the circle-jerk of the Who's Who of the Internet. I am happy to see the CoC taking a step toward that direction with its departure from the Satanic International Namecalling.
Do take back Satanism for Self-Becoming, away from those CoS jerkoffs who strive for nothing but having parties with pentagram decorations. (I mean shit, I do that all the time without needing a formal and legally incorporated organization with a dues structure. Brian brings the keg, if people want weed they bring their own and I pretend not to know, I set up the bonfire, sometimes we do a drum circle or hum together, budda bing budda boom.)
Just say that you're the real inheritor of LaVey and don't bring the ToS into it. In fact if I were you, I would mimic a lot of what they do, while avoiding their suffocating dryness. That is what I see in the CoC and why I joined.
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Post by dudetyson on May 8, 2011 21:11:22 GMT -6
I also recommend you seek out Diane Vera and work with her if you are in the New York area. You already have her site and her email is probably on there.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on May 9, 2011 13:16:54 GMT -6
I also recommend you seek out Diane Vera and work with her if you are in the New York area. You already have her site and her email is probably on there. I would but i'm in the Louisiana area.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on May 9, 2011 13:18:26 GMT -6
First, I want to wish you success in your quest to reclaim Satanism for people who are not idiotic deuschbags. However, I think you should realize that the ToS is probably sort of a sister organization to what you might be doing and not an enemy. No offense Timotheus, but I am 100% positive the ToS will just ignore you, because the fact is, they are a highly professional and successful organization that is not degenerating whatsoever, except perhaps for being rather boring. They really don't bother to debate ANYONE over pettiness such as "who has the infernal mandate"; they don't need to, because they're very successful without attempting to recruit via trolling. If you're not reading Stephen Flowers or at least acknowledging his wisdom you're making a big mistake. I've benefited from other ToS authors as well. Also, they are probably open-minded and realistic enough to entertain that a mandate from a supernatural being probably really belongs to anyone who takes it seriously. They were a lot more confrontational in the 1990s when the Internet was getting started and there was almost nothing visible but the CoS and ToS. It wasn't so much as "ToS is the only thing" as "the ToS is really a thing despite the CoS' claims to be the only thing." Since then, that trend has disappeared, with the ToS retreating into private channels or with individual members having whatever limited interactions they desire. In fact, they prefer to avoid the shithole called the Internet "left-hand path" for how amateurish and drama-infested it is. They are focused on strengthening their magick, passing on the tradition to worthy seekers, and not the circle-jerk of the Who's Who of the Internet. I am happy to see the CoC taking a step toward that direction with its departure from the Satanic International Namecalling. Do take back Satanism for Self-Becoming, away from those CoS jerkoffs who strive for nothing but having parties with pentagram decorations. (I mean shit, I do that all the time without needing a formal and legally incorporated organization with a dues structure. Brian brings the keg, if people want weed they bring their own and I pretend not to know, I set up the bonfire, sometimes we do a drum circle or hum together, budda bing budda boom.) Just say that you're the real inheritor of LaVey and don't bring the ToS into it. In fact if I were you, I would mimic a lot of what they do, while avoiding their suffocating dryness. That is what I see in the CoC and why I joined. So the ToS has stopped flacking it out with the CoS. Well yeh i can see where you're coming from about the sufficating dryness but.LOL
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