Post by jessywanshinobi on Jan 31, 2011 22:39:55 GMT -6
I was asked to make a thread for something I wrote regarding the ONA which was inspired by the Unification Thread where the ONA kept on coming up here: cocthulhu.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=taking&action=display&thread=3392&page=3
Repost:
David Myatt has written an autobiography which he will make publicly available in 2021 when he has died. It will explain everything regarding his life and involvement with the ONA. Currently there are perhaps 3 of these autobiographies in underground circulation. R. Moult & Chloe wrote the introductions to this autobio. These are two who have a copy.
When dealing with data about ONA, David Myatt, etc, we must keep in mind that there are two parallel currents of data. The first current is based on public opinions and public assumptions made by those who may have garnered their data off of hearsay and the internet. The second current of data concerning Myatt, AL (anton long), and ONA comes from a small group of people who are in some actual way connected to AL. This second primary group has always been small in number and they usually refer to the ONA affectionately as the "family business" and to each other as the "usual suspects." This is because most ONA writings originates from one of the Usual Suspects.
This group of Usual Suspects - also called "Old Guards," from time to time will meet new people whom they will mentor. These new people are called "cells" in ONA talk. Mentoring a cell takes several years. Cells are far and few in between since your average person doesn't find the ONA appealing. One such cell is the founder of the Temple of THEM who worked with these OG's and AL for a decade.
The ONA as of today exists in two forms: A) The Classical ONA, & B) The Current ONA. The decade of 2000 is the transitioning period. The Classical ONA today has been dismantled by the usual suspects to make the Current ONA. Therefore the Classical ONA - as it existed - does not exist. The Classical ONA is the form which the public is most familiar with. It is the form that has a hierarchal structure of leaders or grand masters, was associated with neo-nazism, etc.
During the 2000's Myatt "left" the ONA and became a Radical Muslim. Except he joined the Saved Sect which has the same essential beliefs as C18 and the ONA: the destruction of nation-states and the establishment of a Caliphate.
Myatt left the ONA to the old guards in these days. To insure that random people won't come and claim to be the leader of the ONA, Myatt made up 7 questions and passed the answers orally - person directly to person - to the usual suspects. This way if anybody claimed to be the leader of the ONA and they could not answer the 7 questions with the right answers, everybody who was actually in the primary circle and their friends knew that the person was a pretender. The questions can be found here: www.nineangles.info/O9A_test_yourself.html
This was pretty much what happened with Grand Magister Blackwood. He came to claim to be the leader of the ONA during 2005. The usual suspects asked him to answer the questions and he was unable to answer even one. Afterwards he was laughed out of the ONA. But he claimed to still be its founder and leader for a while. Currently Blackwood is focusing his attention on attacking the brotherhood of satan.
David Myatt has left Islam for a while. He just never put it into writing to inform the public until recently. Data in the public current travels very slow. You can read his wiki for further information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Myatt
You may also do your own research and figure out that he has returned to working on his Numinous Way. And if you learn to work the Julian dating system David Myatt uses at the end of his writings you will eventually learn that even during those years when he was insight rolling as a Muslim, he was writing for his Numinous Way: wulstanmyatt.tripod.com/ or here: www.davidmyatt.info/
Richard Moult aka "Beesty Boy" as we now know him is also back. Beesty Boy has two of his own wordpresses: 1) richardmoultDOTwordpressDOTcom/2010/05/20/the-green-damask-room/
Replace the word "DOT" with a period. The first link will take you to his public wordpress where he houses his artwork. That link will take you to a painting he recently did. It is a portrait of David Myatt. But the portrait defies everything Myatt has ever publicly said about his ONA affiliation because Moult included the 7 pointed Septagon of the ONA as well as his signature ONA sigilization design always seen in ONA tarot cards he (Moult designed).
2) blackrhadleyDOTwordpressDOTcom/2010/08/31/christos-beest-a-chronology-of-an-esoteric-life-1985eh-2001eh/
The second link takes you to Moult's group's (nexion) wordpress. Replace the word "DOT" with a period. The link will take you to a time line of Beesty Boy's activities.
The current ONA has changed substantially. The change comes primarily from two people: "Anton Long," (Myatt) and Chloe 352.
The first major change is that the two got rid of leaders. Myatt is not alien to this concept. His Reichsfolk was a leaderless organization/system from the beginning. So is his Numinous Way. The two of them for the past several years have put into writing that the ONA no longer has any leaders of any kind. This gets rid of the problem of pretenders. Even though there are no leaders, as with any coherent social order, the most popular ones in such orderings has a large amount of influence.
The title "grand master/mistress" actually is the name of the 6th Initiation Grade of the ONA which "Anton Long" is the only holder of as of now. The thing with ONA Grades/degrees is that it is essentially fixed down to time periods and tasks needed to be executed. It takes 25 years to get from the 1st Initiation Grade to the 6th. Anybody who reaches the 6th Grade is called a Grand Master/Mistress. The 7th Grade/Degree of the ONA is called Immortal. This Grade you receive literally when you die in the ONA. Your death is your initiation into the 7th degree. So even those there may be titles still used which seem to point to leadership positions, these are only names of Grades in the Sinister Way (what the 7 degrees are collectively called).
The next major change put into motion by AL & Chloe is the phasing out of BOTH German nazism AND Satanism. In the ONA these are "Outer Forms," of the Sinister Dielectic. They are tools used to help or try to help accomplish certain Goals pertinent to the Sinister Dialectic: www.nineangles.info/dialectic.html
They are also forms of "Insight Roles." When you understand the ONA's concepts of Sinister Dialectics and Insight Roles you will understand the essential reason why Myatt did what he did. If you are familiar with any Form of Buddhism and are familiar with the concept of Upaya and Yana, you will also understand what the term "Outer Form" or shell means.
The form used now is the ONA minus the Satanism. An Initiate is called now a "Dreccian" and NOT a Traditional Satanist.
Although the ONA has phased out German Nazism, the ONA still uses as one of its main pillars Reichsfolk National Socialism. For those of you who like to read, you may access a 200 page pdf of Reichsfolk here:
Just replace the word "DOT" with a period. Essentially the only thing National Socialist about Reichsfolk is the name "National-Socialist." Chloe was given permission to change the name to whatever she wanted because she didn't like it. (She's Asian and not White). But she decided to not tamper with it.
It's easy to assume that anybody can pretend to be an anton long. But Myatt, Beesty Boy, and the Usual Suspects jealously guards that name like a corporate trade mark. If you can answer the 7 questions and you pretend to be anton long, its obvious to the primary circle that you are not Myatt.
Myatt when he writes uses a specific recognizable style and he uses the same words and catch phrases in his Numinous Way as Myatt as he does as Anton Long in his ONA writing.
But with no more leaders, anton long no longer is the center of the ONA. Anyone can now write and change the ONA. In the same way that any scientist can put theories through the scientific method, write their results into a scientific journal for Peer review and evolve science. Chloe made the ONA work in the same way science does, as a Memetic Meritocracy where ideas/writings go though a Peer Review process. Naturally the most popular individuals in the ONA have the most memetic influence. Currently five people's writings have equal weight in the ONA: 1) Anton Long's; 2) Beesty Boy's; 3) Thoth of THEM; 4) Chloe 352's; & 5) Kayla 352. This group of five along with A) DarkLogos; B) Lianna; C) PointyHat; & D) Raffy also constitutes the major Peers whose vote/opinions for ideas/memes counts in a big way.
Contrary to popular public opinion the ONA is NOT a white aryan nazi organization. Chloe is Asian and a Buddhist. Kayla is Mexican and aalso Buddhist. Many associates on Chloe's side are ethnic minorities. There are even Black ONA members. In fact, Chloe's Side utilizes Five Percent Nation of Islam ideology which is antagonistic to the "white devil," white people culture, and white people religion, and white people weltanschauung.
This 180 degree turn about from embracing Western White idealism to being against White Peoples comes directly from David Myatt. As I said, data and inflormation in the public current travels slow. David Myatt abandoned Nazism and a few years ago became a race traitor calling for the destruction of the West... HENCE his 10 year attempt to cause Islam to destroy the West. He also calls for the destruction of a sector or strata of the White Race: www.cosmicbeing.info/mythos-vindex-part2.html
David Myatt and Chloe refers to this breed of the Caucasian race as "Homo Hubris," which is the mundane and ignoble breed of white people. If you do your own research on terms like "White Horde of Homo Hubris" or something of that sort, you will get the idea of Myatts turn about and why Racist Aryan Nazi's in Europe has called him a race traitor and call for his assassination.
A central part to the ONA, the Numinous Way, and to Reichsfolk National-Socialism which is ubiquitous to Myattian thought is a concept called the "Vindex Mythos."
In the Mythos Vindex is an ethnic warrior/speaker/leader who will come in the future and lead a people to a revolution against the White Hordes Homo Hubris and the "Hubriati/Oligarchy."
About Chloe and Kayla. David Myatt calls these two his "Honorary Daughters." They have interviewed Myatt/Long: www.nineangles.info/questions-anton-long-wsa.html
And Myatt/Long does mention them both by name in a Q&A he wrote earlier:
R. Moult directly worked with Kayla a few years ago before he publicly returned to the ONA. Many of the rites of 352 were actually created by Beesty Boy for Kayla 352. Chloe 352 works with the old guards, was mentored by DarkLogos, and has the green light from AL to do as she pleases with the ONA. Being a Buddhist, she greatly dislikes Satanism and is successfully removing Satanism from the ONA. Anton Long bounces off of her by phasing out the Satanic rhetoric and flooding the ONA with Reichsfolk and Numinous Way ideas and philosophy. Chloe on the other hand is flooding the ONA with Theravada Buddhism and Oriental Vama Marga (Mon-Khmer shaktism) which she is familiar. You can see the both of them engineering this new Outer Form now which they call "Drecc," or "Dreccian Way." Just google it.
Lastly, most stuff of the old (classical) ONA is outdated and has been superseded by the new stuff. For example all 21 Satanic Points are defunct. The Black Book of Satan has been demoted to a template for people and "nexions" to use to write and draft their own rites. The Dreccian Outer Form does not use the Black Book of Satan. Naos is still a pillar of the ONA.
For those of you who desire to read current stuff written by Anton Long, there are over 2000 pages worth of ONA MSS called 1) The O9A Website (Archive) & 2) The Requisite ONA availible here: www.o9a.org/words/
O9A.ORG will also link you to every ONA site in cyberspace set up and established by one of its "nexions" (groups).
For a quick assessment of the ONA as it is today the following FAQ & article is sufficient to answer easy questions:
1)
2) www.o9a.org/faq/
3)
For those who like Buddhism and "Oriental Wetlanschauung," or desire to read the writings of Chloe 352 and Kayla 352 to get their style of writing and way of thinking the first site is the only site they work out of which houses over about 1000 pages worth of stuff in a little over a hundred posts.
Last year Chloe was going to publish a book through Nephilim Press, but the book ended up being 750 pages long and the "peerage" thought 750 pages are way to much for the market, which would only over complicate things. They called off the publication to shrink the book down to a couple hundred pages of essential fundamental stuff. Unfortunately with 5000 pages of 40 years worth of Myatt/Long writing and 1000 pages of their own writings, it's hard to shrink all those pages down.
Finally, I can't change the personal assumptions or private emotional reasonings, or beliefs and opinions here may have of the ONA. It is what it is. No amount of paperwork or proof or written material will ever change the minds and beliefs of a person who has set their minds already. You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make the horse drink, as they say. regardless of public consensus and public belief, Myatt will continue to do what Myatt does, the Usual Suspects will continue to do what they have been doing. Just minding their own business and working on something they love and care about:
The ONA doesn't belong to anybody any more and at the same time, it belongs to anybody who desires to assume the little subculture. Venger Satanis and anybody is free to use and take whatever ideas from the ONA as they wish and change what they don't like. It is Open Sourced now:
But as a subcultural institution it can't ever merge and unify with other groups because of reasons stated elsewhere in this thread.
Everyone here is still free to have their opinions and ideas of the ONA. I have only posted data for those few here to gloss over should they feel like it. The assumptions and beliefs that triggered this post I have seen over and over again in the public (cyberspace). The answers have all been written "out there." It just takes a little research and the ability to let go of emotive prejudice. But nobody has to like the ONA. It will continue to quietly go as it has been. If it did not exist before, does now or will. In the same sense that the Cthulhu Mythos once was the stories and ideas of one man (Lovecraft) but through clever minds like Venger's it gradual coalesced into a Cult. It is not in an organization's or religion's or philosophy's Nature to please everybody.
An institution will go nowhere if it concerns itself with just making everybody happy and like it. Instead, a corporation make a product and markets such product to a group of people who do like the product. This is what the ONA is. Not a lot of people like the ONA. But there are a few out there that do. These are the people that will resonate with the ONA and find their way to the Sinister Way. Those that don't resonate or like the ONA stays away. To each their own. Whatever floats our boats. The vehicle isn't important so long as the vihicle takes us to our Destination. The Yana isn't important, because in the end the Upasaka will find the same Dhamma. I won't be answering questions as I have written enough, and all the answers are "out there." I wrote this in haste, there will be errors sorry. Oh lastly if you desire to read a scholastic evaluation of the ONA done by a Danish University go here: en.calameo.com/books/0000949844393ff11c212
Repost:
David Myatt has written an autobiography which he will make publicly available in 2021 when he has died. It will explain everything regarding his life and involvement with the ONA. Currently there are perhaps 3 of these autobiographies in underground circulation. R. Moult & Chloe wrote the introductions to this autobio. These are two who have a copy.
When dealing with data about ONA, David Myatt, etc, we must keep in mind that there are two parallel currents of data. The first current is based on public opinions and public assumptions made by those who may have garnered their data off of hearsay and the internet. The second current of data concerning Myatt, AL (anton long), and ONA comes from a small group of people who are in some actual way connected to AL. This second primary group has always been small in number and they usually refer to the ONA affectionately as the "family business" and to each other as the "usual suspects." This is because most ONA writings originates from one of the Usual Suspects.
This group of Usual Suspects - also called "Old Guards," from time to time will meet new people whom they will mentor. These new people are called "cells" in ONA talk. Mentoring a cell takes several years. Cells are far and few in between since your average person doesn't find the ONA appealing. One such cell is the founder of the Temple of THEM who worked with these OG's and AL for a decade.
The ONA as of today exists in two forms: A) The Classical ONA, & B) The Current ONA. The decade of 2000 is the transitioning period. The Classical ONA today has been dismantled by the usual suspects to make the Current ONA. Therefore the Classical ONA - as it existed - does not exist. The Classical ONA is the form which the public is most familiar with. It is the form that has a hierarchal structure of leaders or grand masters, was associated with neo-nazism, etc.
During the 2000's Myatt "left" the ONA and became a Radical Muslim. Except he joined the Saved Sect which has the same essential beliefs as C18 and the ONA: the destruction of nation-states and the establishment of a Caliphate.
Myatt left the ONA to the old guards in these days. To insure that random people won't come and claim to be the leader of the ONA, Myatt made up 7 questions and passed the answers orally - person directly to person - to the usual suspects. This way if anybody claimed to be the leader of the ONA and they could not answer the 7 questions with the right answers, everybody who was actually in the primary circle and their friends knew that the person was a pretender. The questions can be found here: www.nineangles.info/O9A_test_yourself.html
This was pretty much what happened with Grand Magister Blackwood. He came to claim to be the leader of the ONA during 2005. The usual suspects asked him to answer the questions and he was unable to answer even one. Afterwards he was laughed out of the ONA. But he claimed to still be its founder and leader for a while. Currently Blackwood is focusing his attention on attacking the brotherhood of satan.
David Myatt has left Islam for a while. He just never put it into writing to inform the public until recently. Data in the public current travels very slow. You can read his wiki for further information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Myatt
You may also do your own research and figure out that he has returned to working on his Numinous Way. And if you learn to work the Julian dating system David Myatt uses at the end of his writings you will eventually learn that even during those years when he was insight rolling as a Muslim, he was writing for his Numinous Way: wulstanmyatt.tripod.com/ or here: www.davidmyatt.info/
Richard Moult aka "Beesty Boy" as we now know him is also back. Beesty Boy has two of his own wordpresses: 1) richardmoultDOTwordpressDOTcom/2010/05/20/the-green-damask-room/
Replace the word "DOT" with a period. The first link will take you to his public wordpress where he houses his artwork. That link will take you to a painting he recently did. It is a portrait of David Myatt. But the portrait defies everything Myatt has ever publicly said about his ONA affiliation because Moult included the 7 pointed Septagon of the ONA as well as his signature ONA sigilization design always seen in ONA tarot cards he (Moult designed).
2) blackrhadleyDOTwordpressDOTcom/2010/08/31/christos-beest-a-chronology-of-an-esoteric-life-1985eh-2001eh/
The second link takes you to Moult's group's (nexion) wordpress. Replace the word "DOT" with a period. The link will take you to a time line of Beesty Boy's activities.
The current ONA has changed substantially. The change comes primarily from two people: "Anton Long," (Myatt) and Chloe 352.
The first major change is that the two got rid of leaders. Myatt is not alien to this concept. His Reichsfolk was a leaderless organization/system from the beginning. So is his Numinous Way. The two of them for the past several years have put into writing that the ONA no longer has any leaders of any kind. This gets rid of the problem of pretenders. Even though there are no leaders, as with any coherent social order, the most popular ones in such orderings has a large amount of influence.
The title "grand master/mistress" actually is the name of the 6th Initiation Grade of the ONA which "Anton Long" is the only holder of as of now. The thing with ONA Grades/degrees is that it is essentially fixed down to time periods and tasks needed to be executed. It takes 25 years to get from the 1st Initiation Grade to the 6th. Anybody who reaches the 6th Grade is called a Grand Master/Mistress. The 7th Grade/Degree of the ONA is called Immortal. This Grade you receive literally when you die in the ONA. Your death is your initiation into the 7th degree. So even those there may be titles still used which seem to point to leadership positions, these are only names of Grades in the Sinister Way (what the 7 degrees are collectively called).
The next major change put into motion by AL & Chloe is the phasing out of BOTH German nazism AND Satanism. In the ONA these are "Outer Forms," of the Sinister Dielectic. They are tools used to help or try to help accomplish certain Goals pertinent to the Sinister Dialectic: www.nineangles.info/dialectic.html
They are also forms of "Insight Roles." When you understand the ONA's concepts of Sinister Dialectics and Insight Roles you will understand the essential reason why Myatt did what he did. If you are familiar with any Form of Buddhism and are familiar with the concept of Upaya and Yana, you will also understand what the term "Outer Form" or shell means.
The form used now is the ONA minus the Satanism. An Initiate is called now a "Dreccian" and NOT a Traditional Satanist.
Although the ONA has phased out German Nazism, the ONA still uses as one of its main pillars Reichsfolk National Socialism. For those of you who like to read, you may access a 200 page pdf of Reichsfolk here:
Just replace the word "DOT" with a period. Essentially the only thing National Socialist about Reichsfolk is the name "National-Socialist." Chloe was given permission to change the name to whatever she wanted because she didn't like it. (She's Asian and not White). But she decided to not tamper with it.
It's easy to assume that anybody can pretend to be an anton long. But Myatt, Beesty Boy, and the Usual Suspects jealously guards that name like a corporate trade mark. If you can answer the 7 questions and you pretend to be anton long, its obvious to the primary circle that you are not Myatt.
Myatt when he writes uses a specific recognizable style and he uses the same words and catch phrases in his Numinous Way as Myatt as he does as Anton Long in his ONA writing.
But with no more leaders, anton long no longer is the center of the ONA. Anyone can now write and change the ONA. In the same way that any scientist can put theories through the scientific method, write their results into a scientific journal for Peer review and evolve science. Chloe made the ONA work in the same way science does, as a Memetic Meritocracy where ideas/writings go though a Peer Review process. Naturally the most popular individuals in the ONA have the most memetic influence. Currently five people's writings have equal weight in the ONA: 1) Anton Long's; 2) Beesty Boy's; 3) Thoth of THEM; 4) Chloe 352's; & 5) Kayla 352. This group of five along with A) DarkLogos; B) Lianna; C) PointyHat; & D) Raffy also constitutes the major Peers whose vote/opinions for ideas/memes counts in a big way.
Contrary to popular public opinion the ONA is NOT a white aryan nazi organization. Chloe is Asian and a Buddhist. Kayla is Mexican and aalso Buddhist. Many associates on Chloe's side are ethnic minorities. There are even Black ONA members. In fact, Chloe's Side utilizes Five Percent Nation of Islam ideology which is antagonistic to the "white devil," white people culture, and white people religion, and white people weltanschauung.
This 180 degree turn about from embracing Western White idealism to being against White Peoples comes directly from David Myatt. As I said, data and inflormation in the public current travels slow. David Myatt abandoned Nazism and a few years ago became a race traitor calling for the destruction of the West... HENCE his 10 year attempt to cause Islam to destroy the West. He also calls for the destruction of a sector or strata of the White Race: www.cosmicbeing.info/mythos-vindex-part2.html
David Myatt and Chloe refers to this breed of the Caucasian race as "Homo Hubris," which is the mundane and ignoble breed of white people. If you do your own research on terms like "White Horde of Homo Hubris" or something of that sort, you will get the idea of Myatts turn about and why Racist Aryan Nazi's in Europe has called him a race traitor and call for his assassination.
A central part to the ONA, the Numinous Way, and to Reichsfolk National-Socialism which is ubiquitous to Myattian thought is a concept called the "Vindex Mythos."
In the Mythos Vindex is an ethnic warrior/speaker/leader who will come in the future and lead a people to a revolution against the White Hordes Homo Hubris and the "Hubriati/Oligarchy."
About Chloe and Kayla. David Myatt calls these two his "Honorary Daughters." They have interviewed Myatt/Long: www.nineangles.info/questions-anton-long-wsa.html
And Myatt/Long does mention them both by name in a Q&A he wrote earlier:
R. Moult directly worked with Kayla a few years ago before he publicly returned to the ONA. Many of the rites of 352 were actually created by Beesty Boy for Kayla 352. Chloe 352 works with the old guards, was mentored by DarkLogos, and has the green light from AL to do as she pleases with the ONA. Being a Buddhist, she greatly dislikes Satanism and is successfully removing Satanism from the ONA. Anton Long bounces off of her by phasing out the Satanic rhetoric and flooding the ONA with Reichsfolk and Numinous Way ideas and philosophy. Chloe on the other hand is flooding the ONA with Theravada Buddhism and Oriental Vama Marga (Mon-Khmer shaktism) which she is familiar. You can see the both of them engineering this new Outer Form now which they call "Drecc," or "Dreccian Way." Just google it.
Lastly, most stuff of the old (classical) ONA is outdated and has been superseded by the new stuff. For example all 21 Satanic Points are defunct. The Black Book of Satan has been demoted to a template for people and "nexions" to use to write and draft their own rites. The Dreccian Outer Form does not use the Black Book of Satan. Naos is still a pillar of the ONA.
For those of you who desire to read current stuff written by Anton Long, there are over 2000 pages worth of ONA MSS called 1) The O9A Website (Archive) & 2) The Requisite ONA availible here: www.o9a.org/words/
O9A.ORG will also link you to every ONA site in cyberspace set up and established by one of its "nexions" (groups).
For a quick assessment of the ONA as it is today the following FAQ & article is sufficient to answer easy questions:
1)
2) www.o9a.org/faq/
3)
For those who like Buddhism and "Oriental Wetlanschauung," or desire to read the writings of Chloe 352 and Kayla 352 to get their style of writing and way of thinking the first site is the only site they work out of which houses over about 1000 pages worth of stuff in a little over a hundred posts.
Last year Chloe was going to publish a book through Nephilim Press, but the book ended up being 750 pages long and the "peerage" thought 750 pages are way to much for the market, which would only over complicate things. They called off the publication to shrink the book down to a couple hundred pages of essential fundamental stuff. Unfortunately with 5000 pages of 40 years worth of Myatt/Long writing and 1000 pages of their own writings, it's hard to shrink all those pages down.
Finally, I can't change the personal assumptions or private emotional reasonings, or beliefs and opinions here may have of the ONA. It is what it is. No amount of paperwork or proof or written material will ever change the minds and beliefs of a person who has set their minds already. You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make the horse drink, as they say. regardless of public consensus and public belief, Myatt will continue to do what Myatt does, the Usual Suspects will continue to do what they have been doing. Just minding their own business and working on something they love and care about:
The ONA doesn't belong to anybody any more and at the same time, it belongs to anybody who desires to assume the little subculture. Venger Satanis and anybody is free to use and take whatever ideas from the ONA as they wish and change what they don't like. It is Open Sourced now:
But as a subcultural institution it can't ever merge and unify with other groups because of reasons stated elsewhere in this thread.
Everyone here is still free to have their opinions and ideas of the ONA. I have only posted data for those few here to gloss over should they feel like it. The assumptions and beliefs that triggered this post I have seen over and over again in the public (cyberspace). The answers have all been written "out there." It just takes a little research and the ability to let go of emotive prejudice. But nobody has to like the ONA. It will continue to quietly go as it has been. If it did not exist before, does now or will. In the same sense that the Cthulhu Mythos once was the stories and ideas of one man (Lovecraft) but through clever minds like Venger's it gradual coalesced into a Cult. It is not in an organization's or religion's or philosophy's Nature to please everybody.
An institution will go nowhere if it concerns itself with just making everybody happy and like it. Instead, a corporation make a product and markets such product to a group of people who do like the product. This is what the ONA is. Not a lot of people like the ONA. But there are a few out there that do. These are the people that will resonate with the ONA and find their way to the Sinister Way. Those that don't resonate or like the ONA stays away. To each their own. Whatever floats our boats. The vehicle isn't important so long as the vihicle takes us to our Destination. The Yana isn't important, because in the end the Upasaka will find the same Dhamma. I won't be answering questions as I have written enough, and all the answers are "out there." I wrote this in haste, there will be errors sorry. Oh lastly if you desire to read a scholastic evaluation of the ONA done by a Danish University go here: en.calameo.com/books/0000949844393ff11c212
