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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 4, 2009 19:25:45 GMT -6
Best I could do on very short notice (have a hot date tonight). As Puck and I have discussed, we should be using the 2012 phenomenon to our advantage.
Opinions?
VS
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 4, 2009 19:53:46 GMT -6
Except then when nothing happens of any specific interest that year we look like a bunch of go-along fanatics with not substance. If we ascribe to something like this it almost puts a deadline for the validity of the cult. Sure we could spin it as a time of grand awakening for the cult, but if/ when nothing happens or when something does happen and its not relevant then we lose. Especially since most people will interpret anything we say literally, because anyone expecting something to happen(and join a cult because of it) is probably going to expect it to be in a physical sense.
If we make something happen ie. hold a grand ritual, release a powerful new tome, start/ finish the construction of a temple etc. then we look in control. But jumping on the band wagon won't.
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Dec 4, 2009 20:47:02 GMT -6
Best I could do on very short notice (have a hot date tonight). As Puck and I have discussed, we should be using the 2012 phenomenon to our advantage.
Opinions?
VS
I love it!! hehehe..just had a wicked thought...wouldn't this make neat flyers to place on windshields of cars parked at the local Wal-Mart!!! ;D
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Dec 4, 2009 20:48:57 GMT -6
Except then when nothing happens of any specific interest that year we look like a bunch of go-along fanatics with not substance. If we ascribe to something like this it almost puts a deadline for the validity of the cult. Sure we could spin it as a time of grand awakening for the cult, but if/ when nothing happens or when something does happen and its not relevant then we lose. Especially since most people will interpret anything we say literally, because anyone expecting something to happen(and join a cult because of it) is probably going to expect it to be in a physical sense. If we make something happen ie. hold a grand ritual, release a powerful new tome, start/ finish the construction of a temple etc. then we look in control. But jumping on the band wagon won't. well i'll have my gift shop going by then so me having a temple finished just should be a good possibility!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Jib on Dec 4, 2009 21:13:33 GMT -6
Great thinking, Venger! Everyone is trying to find every connection there may be between their beliefs and 2012 (the year the Mayan Long Count Calendar comes to an end).
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Dec 5, 2009 9:54:48 GMT -6
shaz'rahjeem has a point. But I DO think we should play on it a bit. MAYBE say it will slowly be the start of a new Aeon instead, that way people dont expect a sudden change and get dissapointed. We can use it as the rallying point for all of our LHP and Chaotic brothers as well.. a new spiritual age. THAT is something we can really work for. AND if the ancient Titans awake and devour the world, then that is a plus too! hehe
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Dec 5, 2009 10:03:43 GMT -6
Except then when nothing happens of any specific interest that year we look like a bunch of go-along fanatics with not substance. If we ascribe to something like this it almost puts a deadline for the validity of the cult. Sure we could spin it as a time of grand awakening for the cult, but if/ when nothing happens or when something does happen and its not relevant then we lose. Especially since most people will interpret anything we say literally, because anyone expecting something to happen(and join a cult because of it) is probably going to expect it to be in a physical sense. If we make something happen ie. hold a grand ritual, release a powerful new tome, start/ finish the construction of a temple etc. then we look in control. But jumping on the band wagon won't. YES a new book.. a book of magick.. of sigils.. an alphabet of desire. One talking about the Titans.. the Old Ones. Talk about how every culture has a story of Gods that Exist before the ones known to man now. How every Culture has it's own Titans. The Giants of the Germanic people, Absu and the Children of Tiamat (and Tiamat), Kronos. One group I am affiliated with believes that SATAN existed BEFORE the Christian God.. that he/she/it is the TRUE GOD of this world. The Horned God of the Ancients. Legends speak of Pan teaching the Gods some of their skills. There are forces that existed before.. inhuman, quasi-human, reptilian/draconic, you name it. And the Human-like gods that exist now.. it is kinda like our humanity pushing aside our ancient primaeval reptilian brain side. The Giants, the Femorians, the DRAGONS. Like GODS we could END this world, we are starting to understand alternate dementions. WE are CLOSE.. but we can also see the world reborn.. but can we do this before we destroy ourselves? Maybe THAT should be what the book is about. And we should deffinatly create a physical temple as well for people to gather to, at least for certain holidays.
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 5, 2009 15:18:36 GMT -6
I do think we have to make shit happen. Not just concerning 2012, but all the time and in every aspect of our lives. We need to own reality!
As Puck told me, all those people are directing conscious energy into the 2012 phenomenon. Who's to stop us from hijacking it for our own benefit? Maybe there is a paradigm shift approaching, a new evolution of consciousness... don't we want to be at the forefront of that?
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Dec 5, 2009 17:55:12 GMT -6
I do think we have to make shit happen. Not just concerning 2012, but all the time and in every aspect of our lives. We need to own reality!
As Puck told me, all those people are directing conscious energy into the 2012 phenomenon. Who's to stop us from hijacking it for our own benefit? Maybe there is a paradigm shift approaching, a new evolution of consciousness... don't we want to be at the forefront of that?
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
Definatly! I DO believe that a paradigm shift is drawing nearer.. that there will be a great spiritual awakening. Maybe in the mean time find a way to direct that 2012 energy towards our metasigil?
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 5, 2009 18:43:22 GMT -6
Great idea!
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Post by sortileges on Dec 6, 2009 11:22:37 GMT -6
I agree something has to be done. The point is that it must not be in a way that make people think that the Cult of Cthulhu is only about 2012.
Venger, you should definetly prepare a grand ritual for every cultist to perform that date. About releasing a book, maybe book 3 will be ready by that date?
Putting a link to CoC website on the flyer is also a fine idea.
Sortilèges
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Post by LostSoul on Dec 7, 2009 12:35:16 GMT -6
I'll follow the rest of the lemmings over the cliff...
Yes, I do believe some type of ritual should be done on the December 2012 date; something to focus all that energy that's going to be around, buzzing like bees in our heads. Something to perhaps awaken; if but for a moment, the slumbering god beneath the seas. To let him know that we await him; for when the stars are just right.
And, I do believe, also, that that would be a good start date for the foundation of the temple. If we all work especially hard; the necessary funds would make themselves available by that date. A physcial focal point for our energies.
I'm all in!
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Post by sin on Dec 7, 2009 14:42:20 GMT -6
Most def, make as much propaganda as you can manage and give it to us. The Rapture, is the last thing these people should concern themselves with. Cthulhu is coming! ha ha
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Post by alderman on Dec 15, 2009 9:39:40 GMT -6
The planets will align and the gateways will open. So many human minds will be buzzing with thoughts of something magnificent about to happen. (Be it very good or very bad.) All the energy in the atmosphere will be unmeasurable, there will be no better time take control of that energy and direct it at your goals. Even if nothing noticeable happens immediately, the mass channeling of energy is sure to put something in motion. Just my take on it.
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Post by sin on Dec 15, 2009 11:25:39 GMT -6
If we had a 'Cthulhu Mayan Calendar' image, with some 2012 propaganda - I can use that.
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Post by nixx on Dec 17, 2009 9:55:58 GMT -6
Surfs up, everyone! Time to ride the wave. I think in the next two years we should be making extra efforts to confront others & their belief in a secure "reality". I feel it is time for us to truly become the devils many of them feel we are. Our greatest weapons: logic & doubt. If we can instill these two things in people & send them off into a tailspin with regards to what they view as real, we can more readily offer an alternative. What the world offers is shallow & without substance. If people are shaken from their delusion even for a moment, they will not be able to believe the lie without a shred of doubt. That germ will fester until in infects the organism & then the seed we plant can germinate.
Not all will be affected this way. As we all know, many of the herd are too locked in to the lie to even consider questioning it, but any opportunity to find those exceptional individuals with the potential to Awaken should be leapt upon & ridden like a Shoggoth in heat; especially considering the 2012 hype virtually gift wraps them for us. (Here's a thought...do shoggoths actually go into heat even though they don't reproduce? Hee hee hee...)
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Post by andrewbloodworth on Oct 6, 2010 5:51:27 GMT -6
Most def, make as much propaganda as you can manage and give it to us. The Rapture, is the last thing these people should concern themselves with. Cthulhu is coming! ha ha I agree, I can feel a shift and I for one can feel it. Many great things are going to happen for us. This is exciting! Awake! Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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Post by ragnafa on Oct 13, 2010 22:49:56 GMT -6
We are going to see a brand new age, and not one of man...About damn time.
Awake.......
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Post by sin on Apr 8, 2011 12:10:09 GMT -6
Did you put more thought into this? Now would be the time to take advantage of it. There are prophets out there predicting the rapture will begin on 5/21/11. People are selling off their worldly goods and traveling around the country in caravans preparing people. So obviously, its something people are believers of (millions of them). 2012 end of days theories considered? The CoC could usher in a new era. An era of Cthulhu.
Awake!
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Post by I AM the Way on Apr 8, 2011 12:26:59 GMT -6
Did you put more thought into this? Now would be the time to take advantage of it. There are prophets out there predicting the rapture will begin on 5/21/11. People are selling off their worldly goods and traveling around the country in caravans preparing people. So obviously, its something people are believers of (millions of them). 2012 end of days theories considered? The CoC could usher in a new era. An era of Cthulhu. Awake! More thought? Yes. Coming up with an effective plan to implement? Not really.
How do we best tap into the whole 2012 phenomenon? I would love to hear any ideas... any at all. Let's start thinking outside the box and inside the green trapezoid, as it were.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by sin on Apr 8, 2011 12:49:33 GMT -6
My initial thoughts are, that in order to run an effective meme, you would need a visual representation of what the era represents.
Perhaps, beginning December 12, 2011 you can begin a series of video representations. Compliment that with a radio show to reach listeners, supporters, potential cult members. The show would need to be designed to cover only what the Era of Cthulhu would bring to humanity.
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Post by lokidreaming on Apr 12, 2011 3:35:16 GMT -6
I plan on spending December 2012 in USA as if anything amazing happens, I rather be where all the actions is.
Loki Dreaming
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