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Post by eldritchentity0 on Jun 10, 2011 12:37:10 GMT -6
Greetings HP Venger,
i have a question, your opinion. It is about ALL groups leaders , clergy and what not. Do you believe that each and every person of a group should be able to express their opinions and feelings to a high clergy if they felt like that clergy misunderstood them? Or like if you do a video and didnt see the mistakes you made or what not, do you believe that person has a right to explain what they meant to the high clergy that was falsely accusing them and without the risk of getting kicked out of a group?
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Post by dudetyson on Jun 10, 2011 16:15:01 GMT -6
Nice profile pic. Obviously I'm not Venger, but in my experience, I've been having utterly free-ranging dialogue with various members of the priesthood, generally speaking my mind and not giving a damn, and there have been no problems. The catch: when you critique people, they often argue with you. Now there's a big difference between someone arguing with you and someone kicking you out of a group, but for people who can't handle rational conversation, having someone debate back at you often feels just as bad. So be ready to get a hold of your emotions and actually carefully read the things people write, and carefully think through the things that you write. Basically all I'm saying is, it's not really a big deal, just don't cry about it or act like someone wronged you when you get in a debate. Overall this forum has been a positive experience for me. Also check out the social network of the same group, www.cultofcthulhu.wall.fm
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Jun 10, 2011 16:28:46 GMT -6
Well, thats not the reason why I asked, I was asking Venger because he is a High Priest the clergy. I had an experience with a previous group who basically the clergy got pissed off over something dumb and a big misunderstanding and threatened to kick me out in a heart beat. And the problem is with the group is that I feel like I cant express myself or voice my opinions without that "say the wrong thing or whatever we will kick you out in an instance we wont give you a chance to explain" type of attitude.
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Post by dudetyson on Jun 10, 2011 16:38:28 GMT -6
Expulsions are rare here. The only ones I've witnessed have been (1) people actively trying to disrupt the networks by being huge assholes, intentionally coming in from a rival network (2) people preaching extreme racism (3) some dudes a while ago who kind of tried to overthrow the leader by declaring all degrees irrelevant...I found that more comical than anything, especially since it's not like he was stopping them from doing whatever they otherwise wanted.
I'm a very skeptical, distrustful person, and I have found this place acceptable. In fact, I encourage you to ask tough questions, and see what answers you get. Also make sure you try to get whatever it might be that you were looking for when you signed up.
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Jun 10, 2011 17:15:40 GMT -6
I been in here for a long time, I usually know what questions to ask its just that recent experiences I had really showed me a lot more but those experiences were on a negative scale. then if that is the case then this group is definitely worth staying in!
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Jun 11, 2011 8:51:16 GMT -6
Expulsions are rare here. The only ones I've witnessed have been (1) people actively trying to disrupt the networks by being huge assholes, intentionally coming in from a rival network (2) people preaching extreme racism (3) some dudes a while ago who kind of tried to overthrow the leader by declaring all degrees irrelevant...I found that more comical than anything, especially since it's not like he was stopping them from doing whatever they otherwise wanted. I'm a very skeptical, distrustful person, and I have found this place acceptable. In fact, I encourage you to ask tough questions, and see what answers you get. Also make sure you try to get whatever it might be that you were looking for when you signed up. Hey do you have a link the the threads pertaining to number 3 there I am in bad need of a reason to smile and i just as well smile at their abject stupidity.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jun 11, 2011 9:48:57 GMT -6
Expulsions are rare here. The only ones I've witnessed have been (1) people actively trying to disrupt the networks by being huge assholes, intentionally coming in from a rival network (2) people preaching extreme racism (3) some dudes a while ago who kind of tried to overthrow the leader by declaring all degrees irrelevant...I found that more comical than anything, especially since it's not like he was stopping them from doing whatever they otherwise wanted. I'm a very skeptical, distrustful person, and I have found this place acceptable. In fact, I encourage you to ask tough questions, and see what answers you get. Also make sure you try to get whatever it might be that you were looking for when you signed up. Hey do you have a link the the threads pertaining to number 3 there I am in bad need of a reason to smile and i just as well smile at their abject stupidity. cocthulhu.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ooze&action=display&thread=3805Knock yo'self out, hoss!Yes, it's always ok to express one's opinion to each and every individual within the Cult of Cthulhu. Doesn't matter if it's a Messenger of the Outer Angles or the Ipsissimus.
Additionally, I can't think of an instance where a Cultist wouldn't be given a second and possibly even a third chance if they sincerely wanted to continue working within our quantum religion and emerald paradigm.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Jun 11, 2011 21:46:59 GMT -6
Hey do you have a link the the threads pertaining to number 3 there I am in bad need of a reason to smile and i just as well smile at their abject stupidity. cocthulhu.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ooze&action=display&thread=3805Knock yo'self out, hoss!Yes, it's always ok to express one's opinion to each and every individual within the Cult of Cthulhu. Doesn't matter if it's a Messenger of the Outer Angles or the Ipsissimus.
Additionally, I can't think of an instance where a Cultist wouldn't be given a second and possibly even a third chance if they sincerely wanted to continue working within our quantum religion and emerald paradigm.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
Thanks Brother Satanis,I actually laughed til i cried! ;D Awake
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Post by Veoughtis Isious Grimm on Jun 12, 2011 22:57:48 GMT -6
Hey do you have a link the the threads pertaining to number 3 there I am in bad need of a reason to smile and i just as well smile at their abject stupidity. cocthulhu.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ooze&action=display&thread=3805Knock yo'self out, hoss!Yes, it's always ok to express one's opinion to each and every individual within the Cult of Cthulhu. Doesn't matter if it's a Messenger of the Outer Angles or the Ipsissimus.
Additionally, I can't think of an instance where a Cultist wouldn't be given a second and possibly even a third chance if they sincerely wanted to continue working within our quantum religion and emerald paradigm.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
I completely agree with everything that Venger Satanis is saying here. Anyone should be able to express their opinions and feelings in our group (or any other, for that matter, that wishes to be successful) but I believe that there is an element of respect that should be addressed. It is obvious that everyone is different, and there will be clashing ideals even when those clashing ideals are shared among the people and it is alright to express your side of any debate. But, it seems to me that no matter how heated the argument might get, you should always be respectful. People will fight and argue and ideals will clash and disagree, but if one side or the other does not represent their side in a proper and respectful manner, than the argument will never be settled. That is all I'm saying. Simply be respectful when presenting your feelings and opinions. Otherwise, you look ignorant.
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Post by sin on Jun 13, 2011 20:21:54 GMT -6
Respect is earned, perhaps a measure of 'civility' is better suited for posting but you can't always have it your way amidst chaos
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Post by lokidreaming on Jun 22, 2011 4:20:43 GMT -6
Brother Sorcerer from the Outside,
Try working your butt off and affects change as you go along in that group?
Belief IS Reality Loki Dreaming
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