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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 3:22:57 GMT -6
I will speak about spiritual alchemy. A correct attitude coupled with a conscious will is changing most bad, damageable, negative accidents into good, positive, nutritive events.
Some examples : you are so busy, so tired, your car broke down, an aggressive neighbor is threatening you, a very unpleasant task has to be done, ... Each of these situations should be considered as an opportunity. Choose the right attitude, apply our philosophy... and feed yourself from the universe ! The pleasure to win this test, to be better thanks to this new experience is the fuel that will propels us higher.
The way you consider your surrounding is everything, and an awaken man is choosing his attitudes. Maybe I just repeat one more time what you know, but do you apply this in your daily life ? Remember the words of Gurdjieff : only super efforts are fruitful.
To summarize, a bad moment is a good opportunity, and there is no good reason for not Working.
Now is the moment of Awakening.
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Post by sin on Jun 6, 2011 8:19:28 GMT -6
I would agree, I often use transmutation of one emotion into another as 'fuel', that's a great way of conceptualizing spiritual alchemy. Breathe too, because there can be no fire without moments of breath.
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Post by boksmutant on Jun 6, 2011 17:46:53 GMT -6
Consider how easily we become defensive or lean on past attitudes & actions that we let float through our heads when knowing we will have to deal with these troublesome situations. What is it that prohibits us from seeing these situations as an opportunity instead of a threat? I'll say it has a lot has to do with our low expectations of life & our environment. Getting used to a low level of repetitiveness & mechanization along with the security apathy provides, we become stressed by the news of, OR THREAT OF such out of the ordinary circumstances. It's ultimately a blow to the comfort zone we've come to expect. The regularity became threatened & adaption is forced against our will. We become a victim of the universe once again & this draws up some horrible feelings for us.
It is a strange thing to think moments so mundane as this are considered threats instead of an opportunity to change our world & feel as if you accomplished something so great & untouchable as this world. I'm taking a jab at a host of problems that cloud our minds as humans when it comes to insecurity & our fear of success. If fear is so prevalent in our species as we know it is, then why is it we don't see the value of each of these "small" & negative moments as an opportunity to face these changes.
We're so used to changes being made by "great people" with "great ambitions" & we can't see that it's the moments we've seen ON THE STREET in front of a damn 7-11 when we see the two guys fighting, or the lady at the DMV in front of us who's yelling at the clerk that molds our reactions & attitudes into our adulthood's.
Awake!
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Post by I AM the Way on Jun 7, 2011 12:56:55 GMT -6
This is a wonderful thread. I hope others weigh in too.
All the time, our mechanical being attracts mechanical aspects of life. This collection of machine-reality becomes our false personality. We watch what happens around us, not actively but in a passive way. This mechanical way of being is absorbed little by little until there is almost nothing left of our true self.
Ordinary efforts produce ordinary results. Super efforts produce super results. Dig deep until essence is found. Let that, and not false personality, be your guide.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by dudetyson on Jun 7, 2011 19:10:54 GMT -6
The transference of negative emotions into constructive action is pretty much the center of my life philosophy. Use the Dark Side!
Also I used to play MTG, heh.
@venger: How much is the use of negative emotions against the 4th Way? The impression I get from 4th way is that you pretty much repress negative emotions.
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Post by pseudosherlock on Jun 8, 2011 0:17:36 GMT -6
I'm a firm believer that everything I experience is placed there, at some level by me, in order to give me opportunities to better myself.
I had a moment today on the phone with a customer when I was apologizing profusely because I was unable to help (within the policies of the bank) and ended the call feeling guilty. Then I snapped outside of my mechanical thinking, literally feeling myself mired in cringing regret, and thought: "Why the hell am I feeling bad? This has jack-nothing to do with me, and I'm quivering in guilty-fear that I'm failing to help some guy that put himself in his position."
I am quite deeply blessed, I have to say, for such a trying job that gives me so many excuses to watch the worst sides of people and myself!
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Post by I AM the Way on Jun 8, 2011 9:35:05 GMT -6
The transference of negative emotions into constructive action is pretty much the center of my life philosophy. Use the Dark Side! Also I used to play MTG, heh. @venger: How much is the use of negative emotions against the 4th Way? The impression I get from 4th way is that you pretty much repress negative emotions. Productive or fruitful use of negative emotions is not against the 4th Way because at that point we are transforming them into something conducive to Awakening. Wallowing in negative emotions, being controlled by negative emotions, and allowing negative emotions to lull us back asleep is against The Work.
Within the ritual chamber, any magical state really, negative emotions can easily be used to fuel our will... as long as that does not come at the expense of the gnosis / Self-Remembering state which is also required. For those who need a refresher, the following is how magic operates.
1. Intent
2. Gnosis / Self-Remembering
3. Will
For the second step, I could say "Awakening" instead of Self-Remembering but it's more difficult for us to envision the totality that is Awakening. I might as well have said "evolution" because it amounts to the same thing. On the other hand, conceptualizing the technique of Self-Remembering is fairly easy for an individual making efforts within a Fourth Way school such as the Cthulhu Cult.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by boksmutant on Jun 9, 2011 14:04:13 GMT -6
Here's a quote from "Reality of Being" Jeanne De Salzman: "My usual emotional state is negative, always reacting to people & events from my selfish Ego-centered point of view--what pleases or displeases me,what I like or do not like. There is a perpetual closing,in which I harden, imprisoned in an Ego that cries "I." The being, the whole being is forgotten. At the same time there is a need to give, to love. But I can not love outside consciousness. Love is a quality of consciousness."
Earlier it describes that the "I" "has a deep fear of being nothing & is afraid of not having security,power,possessions. It is thin-skinned & easily wounded."
A lot of the time I try not to think about how a situation might be negative or positive for me & passively wait to see what becomes of it, which sounds sorta reasonable, but ideally we should be more engaged in fantasies of how the situations will become positive for us. The "hardening" & "closing down" aspect is what we should expect as an automatic thing that is always flipped on, our Ego is always wanting to be defensive & ready when a discomforting situation arises.
I think a lot of situations in the world are handled badly because of how untrained we are at accepting change. We spend so much of our time creating our selves & designing our environment that when it is threatened, we just can not see the opportunity to evolve, evolve our selves & our environment.
It's all opportunity, Sweet! Empathy can suck most of the time lol. I find it a little to easy for me to do as well. It's easy to pick out just how open a person is to your feelings within seconds of meeting em. Then again a lot of people abuse that. That person on the phone would be a prime example of being very unawake if you ask me lol. At least for the moment that's for sure.
Awaken!
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