Post by serpentlight213 on May 29, 2011 14:21:19 GMT -6
This thread is directed towards High Priest Venger As'Nas Satanis a.k.a Ipsissimus of the Cthulhu Cult mostly but, in essence, to all of the Cthulhu Cult. This is not an attack by any means but rather a spark of knowledge that most likely will not be conveyed in an emerald manner so to speak.
This is my third account because I got kicked off the forum originally then with permission from Ipsissimus Satanis I rejoined the forum as a cultist. I quickly decided to leave because I read something by someone on here that was, I viewed it as being so, very un - LHP like but then again there is a lot of people out there that believe the LHP propagates that sort of behavior. I don't remember who said it (even if I did I wouldn't name names) or quite what it was about but Venger Satanis would have definitely agreed with it or lived a similar lifestyle. When I saw this I decided to get the fuck off this site because it, honestly, enraged me to think there is so many de-evolved primate like figures in the world let alone a place that promotes evolution!
Well, I rejoined again and haven't left so far but this thread may lead to my expulsion from the CoC forum. For a couple of weeks Venger and I conversed... Well, at first I left a comment here and there then we talked. It started with his video about him being a Messiah. I left a comment about how I felt on the subject. Lord Satanis was and is a major figure within the LHP. He has some great aspects to himself but there are a few quirks that are not LHP. This is what this thread is intended to focus around but other things have to be discussed for obvious reasons. I replied to the email he sent about Owning the ONA and we got into a conversation of sorts. I explained some of what I was doing by forming what I consider to be a Middle Path (though that isn't what I name it and no its not associated with Dark Fool's version which I don't know much about). He seem to have wanted me back on the forum but then as things went on I replied something to him which he never replied back so far and its been a couple of days. He probably didn't think it was worth responding to or simply ignored it. I, in a non insulting way, told him that the CoC may and will prevail in certain fields but fail in others.
The LHP is the ONLY domain where this cult will survive or extend its slime green tentacles! Unlike him, I look at both the LHP and RHP as being beneficial and not so beneficial. There is a lot confusion within both paths, what makes something "satanic" or "LHP" and even people trying to say that a RHP aspect is LHP! LHP practitioners need to get their head out of their ass and start realized that the LHP is NOT the only beneficial path! A middle path, in my vision, is a path that is a culmination of specific aspects of RHP and LHP which extends further but this thread isn't about it because most likely there is going to be a lot of people here that would say, "fuck the RHP" OR ask me to explain it like they are interested then prove themselves to be as much of an ingrate as a high school jock, cheerleader, or bully! In many cases the LHP is as fucked up as the RHP!
The reason I got kicked off the forum the first time is because of a conversation on youtube I had with Venger. This was about how you shouldn't let women be submissive to you even if that woman wants it because she is fooling herself. This is what people don't understand! A lot of the actions accepted by most LHP practitioners such as polygamy is no different than drinking or doing drugs. I say this because these acts are hardly undergone by someone who is truly "un-affected by psychological issues." Everyone has some kind of issue and that isn't my opinion - its fact! The LHP is about progression just like the Cult of Cthulhu is but yet, like Venger Satanis, they have their head stuck in the ground like an ostrich to afraid to confront whats really out there! The reason I got kicked off is, well, one of the reason that I know of, is that I broke the forum rules by lashing out at Egodiabolous and Beast Xeno mostly when they proceeded to be ignorant of what I was trying to say. They kept running their mouths about how I was trying to force my beliefs onto them when I was only expressing my opinion and that it was NOT Satanic, LHP or anything else! Everyone is individualistic, yes, they have different I's within themselves but they are an entity unto themselves whether if they are a woman or a man! To be submissive unto someone else is to say that you reject who you are!
Venger Satanis like so many other Satanists, Setians, Luciferians, and basically LHP practitioners along with RHP practitioners such as Thelemites (in some cases, LHP) are:
Venger Satanis is insecure and often shows it by, this I will admit may not be a sign of insecurity but there is such a thing as "denial," his body building crap. I didn't realize the LHP practitioner needed to become a body builder or simply just muscular to be a true LHP practitioner! The last time I checked, a LHP practitioner is someone is understands that they are who they are and don't have to prove anything! Some where down the line I heard the phrase, "Satanist Rednecks" which is perfect for A LOT of the wannabes in the LHP.
It is nothing new to say that Venger Satanis has an overwhelming EGO and I mean that in a negatively unproductive way. Negatively Unproductive is a word I use to mean that no matter what way something happens or is viewed, it is unproductive and negative. LHP practitioners are encouraged to have a positive sense of self esteem but not to the point that it gets in the way your progress! Yes, Venger, your pride gets in the way your progress because if you were less self involved you would have a lot more going for you now. This is also another sign of insecurity!
In fact, Venger Satanis, is no better than fundamentalists that fall within the category or a similar category of Jehovah's Witnesses. Why? Because proceeds to believe that the Cult of Cthulhu is so potent that it will take over ever thing and actually enforces this belief by little comments about viewing other paths as Cthulian. This is no better than False Christianity! Yes, Christians and a lot of the RHP have its faults and the LHP has its ups.
One of the things that came up in the argument I had, that got me kicked off, is that someone said that Venger was only doing what he needed to do to make his environment suitable for him. A common occurrence within the LHP is that you should acknowledge thyself above others and this is true to a degree but when you enslave, encourage subjugation or a "fluffy bunny" version of subjugation which would be submission, etc. then you are no better than a dictator and you expressing a reason why the LHP will never be as successful as it should be! The LHP needs progression forward not back wards or to become stagnant!
Magick is about making your environment more suitable for you and the LHP is about manifesting an ideal environment but a problem with the LHP is that the practitioners of it tend to want to avoid complete inner analyzation! Knowing that you are a man and prefer a submissive female spouse does not equal "knowing thyself" in the manner it was meant to be taken! You are to analyze yourself, examine it as need be, and improve it. Venger and the Cult talks about "not being a machine" but yet it seems to fail at times when it comes to this. For Venger and the Cult to "dominate" or become the dominate one is VERY machine like - nature like to be honest! LHP needs to break from these "chains" or else it will never evolve successfully.
If you hate me, then hate me!
Serbahk Nect
This is my third account because I got kicked off the forum originally then with permission from Ipsissimus Satanis I rejoined the forum as a cultist. I quickly decided to leave because I read something by someone on here that was, I viewed it as being so, very un - LHP like but then again there is a lot of people out there that believe the LHP propagates that sort of behavior. I don't remember who said it (even if I did I wouldn't name names) or quite what it was about but Venger Satanis would have definitely agreed with it or lived a similar lifestyle. When I saw this I decided to get the fuck off this site because it, honestly, enraged me to think there is so many de-evolved primate like figures in the world let alone a place that promotes evolution!
Well, I rejoined again and haven't left so far but this thread may lead to my expulsion from the CoC forum. For a couple of weeks Venger and I conversed... Well, at first I left a comment here and there then we talked. It started with his video about him being a Messiah. I left a comment about how I felt on the subject. Lord Satanis was and is a major figure within the LHP. He has some great aspects to himself but there are a few quirks that are not LHP. This is what this thread is intended to focus around but other things have to be discussed for obvious reasons. I replied to the email he sent about Owning the ONA and we got into a conversation of sorts. I explained some of what I was doing by forming what I consider to be a Middle Path (though that isn't what I name it and no its not associated with Dark Fool's version which I don't know much about). He seem to have wanted me back on the forum but then as things went on I replied something to him which he never replied back so far and its been a couple of days. He probably didn't think it was worth responding to or simply ignored it. I, in a non insulting way, told him that the CoC may and will prevail in certain fields but fail in others.
The LHP is the ONLY domain where this cult will survive or extend its slime green tentacles! Unlike him, I look at both the LHP and RHP as being beneficial and not so beneficial. There is a lot confusion within both paths, what makes something "satanic" or "LHP" and even people trying to say that a RHP aspect is LHP! LHP practitioners need to get their head out of their ass and start realized that the LHP is NOT the only beneficial path! A middle path, in my vision, is a path that is a culmination of specific aspects of RHP and LHP which extends further but this thread isn't about it because most likely there is going to be a lot of people here that would say, "fuck the RHP" OR ask me to explain it like they are interested then prove themselves to be as much of an ingrate as a high school jock, cheerleader, or bully! In many cases the LHP is as fucked up as the RHP!
The reason I got kicked off the forum the first time is because of a conversation on youtube I had with Venger. This was about how you shouldn't let women be submissive to you even if that woman wants it because she is fooling herself. This is what people don't understand! A lot of the actions accepted by most LHP practitioners such as polygamy is no different than drinking or doing drugs. I say this because these acts are hardly undergone by someone who is truly "un-affected by psychological issues." Everyone has some kind of issue and that isn't my opinion - its fact! The LHP is about progression just like the Cult of Cthulhu is but yet, like Venger Satanis, they have their head stuck in the ground like an ostrich to afraid to confront whats really out there! The reason I got kicked off is, well, one of the reason that I know of, is that I broke the forum rules by lashing out at Egodiabolous and Beast Xeno mostly when they proceeded to be ignorant of what I was trying to say. They kept running their mouths about how I was trying to force my beliefs onto them when I was only expressing my opinion and that it was NOT Satanic, LHP or anything else! Everyone is individualistic, yes, they have different I's within themselves but they are an entity unto themselves whether if they are a woman or a man! To be submissive unto someone else is to say that you reject who you are!
Venger Satanis like so many other Satanists, Setians, Luciferians, and basically LHP practitioners along with RHP practitioners such as Thelemites (in some cases, LHP) are:
Venger Satanis is insecure and often shows it by, this I will admit may not be a sign of insecurity but there is such a thing as "denial," his body building crap. I didn't realize the LHP practitioner needed to become a body builder or simply just muscular to be a true LHP practitioner! The last time I checked, a LHP practitioner is someone is understands that they are who they are and don't have to prove anything! Some where down the line I heard the phrase, "Satanist Rednecks" which is perfect for A LOT of the wannabes in the LHP.
It is nothing new to say that Venger Satanis has an overwhelming EGO and I mean that in a negatively unproductive way. Negatively Unproductive is a word I use to mean that no matter what way something happens or is viewed, it is unproductive and negative. LHP practitioners are encouraged to have a positive sense of self esteem but not to the point that it gets in the way your progress! Yes, Venger, your pride gets in the way your progress because if you were less self involved you would have a lot more going for you now. This is also another sign of insecurity!
In fact, Venger Satanis, is no better than fundamentalists that fall within the category or a similar category of Jehovah's Witnesses. Why? Because proceeds to believe that the Cult of Cthulhu is so potent that it will take over ever thing and actually enforces this belief by little comments about viewing other paths as Cthulian. This is no better than False Christianity! Yes, Christians and a lot of the RHP have its faults and the LHP has its ups.
One of the things that came up in the argument I had, that got me kicked off, is that someone said that Venger was only doing what he needed to do to make his environment suitable for him. A common occurrence within the LHP is that you should acknowledge thyself above others and this is true to a degree but when you enslave, encourage subjugation or a "fluffy bunny" version of subjugation which would be submission, etc. then you are no better than a dictator and you expressing a reason why the LHP will never be as successful as it should be! The LHP needs progression forward not back wards or to become stagnant!
Magick is about making your environment more suitable for you and the LHP is about manifesting an ideal environment but a problem with the LHP is that the practitioners of it tend to want to avoid complete inner analyzation! Knowing that you are a man and prefer a submissive female spouse does not equal "knowing thyself" in the manner it was meant to be taken! You are to analyze yourself, examine it as need be, and improve it. Venger and the Cult talks about "not being a machine" but yet it seems to fail at times when it comes to this. For Venger and the Cult to "dominate" or become the dominate one is VERY machine like - nature like to be honest! LHP needs to break from these "chains" or else it will never evolve successfully.
If you hate me, then hate me!
Serbahk Nect