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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Mar 31, 2011 16:40:25 GMT -6
Why should you be proud of what your ancestors did? I mean, you didn't do it, that was your ancestors! My ancestors came to this country in order to escape a famine and make a new life for themselves. They apparently succeeded as I am here aren't I? Now why should I be proud of that? I mean, they did it! Not me...
As for eugenics, I think that idea falls flat on it's face when faced with the ideas like love and consequences. Watch Star Trek II to get a better idea of what I mean...
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Post by Belarion on Apr 2, 2011 7:10:01 GMT -6
In America racism is just another tool the upper .1% use to control the rest of us. We're not poor because investment bankers and Wall Street fucked the world economy to make some money, we're poor because non-white welfare queens use their food stamps to but Cadillac Escalades. We're not unemployed because it's cheaper to outsource everything and turn America into a service economy, we're unemployed because Mexicans are stealing our jobs.
Just turn us all against the 'Other', because if they don't, well nobody wants to be first against the wall when the proles wake up.
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Post by A'Zodul F'eid on Apr 4, 2011 14:53:22 GMT -6
I would suggest merely looking at racism as an aesthetic quality. I have lately tried not to be too judgmental, at least openly, of others since my worship is not really PC. Something about tentacles and madness just really gets under the media's skin.
Really though why not be a bit racist if it's in your nature. Be proud or your lineage, or date only within your race if you feel it's for the best. It certainly can't hurt for you to consider your sex magics to have some personal polarities of pure, and impure based on race. And I find reflecting on the sorceries inherent in my lineage only strengthens my magic. My blood seems almost to burn with knowledge still there of my predecessors powers.
Awake!
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Post by Rahm'Ahjhan on Apr 5, 2011 5:58:40 GMT -6
Are we purely a product of our inherited biological traits, passed down from a similar gene pool? Or is it the culture a specific 'race' has created that we are proud of?
In the case of the first, superiority is implied; we're dealing with what the individual considers to be a superior trait (or else why be proud of it?) that can only be passed through direct genetic manipulation.
In the case of the second, a culture is created and can be transferred. It's a paradigm, a collection of ideas and aspirations, and as information it is available to anyone willing to take hold of it.
A cultural paradigm can be very specific to the individual's history: influenced by skin tone, slavery, migration, etc. But pride in your culture, in a collective creation reinforced and developed over centuries, is a natural and positive thing. In this aspect, take great pride in yourselves; your ancestors have created a force of Will that made you who you are.
Honestly, if you're proud of your genetic history, and believe there are superior genetic traits in your line, then by all means prove it. I'm sure the Emerald Kingdom would welcome an analysis of the ideal genetic makeup.
It all comes down to what works best anyways. As Aware individuals it is our responsibility to discern the valuable and lash out at the outdated. We can still take pride in our history without being bogged down by the paradigms of our ancestors.
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Post by Narlool L'Pah on Apr 6, 2011 0:29:24 GMT -6
Because, Now, we became better than animals. We have more knowledge, more wisdom, and now is time to use our reason instead of our instinct. We must consider peoples individually. Don't you prefer a honest guy of any color instead of a criminal of your race ?Exactly. Racism is a tool to keep the unwashed masses fighting amongst themselves. It hinders progression. AWAKE! |
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Post by A'Zodul F'eid on Apr 6, 2011 22:47:57 GMT -6
Marx identified Racism as a way for society, or the rich, to control the masses to keep them fearful, self hating, and too busy to rise up and take what they lacked. Could that not be adapted to show it as a tool to prevent true awakening? (Playing Devil's Advocate here, not actually certain I beleive this, merely speculating)
By His Loathsome Tentacles!
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Apr 7, 2011 22:56:24 GMT -6
I personally don't see anything about my lineage to be proud of... Not because it wasn't great or epic mind you, but because it was my ancestor's accomplishments. Not mine! Case in point, I actually am one of the descendants of the now (in)famous Tutor line who ruled England in the Renaissance. Could I be proud of that? Absolutely! Queen Elizabeth I was England's greatest ruler after all! Am I proud of it? Not really...
Instead of focusing on whatever it was that your ancestors did, worry about what it is that you can accomplish. My process is to think on it, then make that shit happen!
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Post by sin on Apr 8, 2011 12:21:38 GMT -6
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Post by lokidreaming on Apr 12, 2011 3:42:41 GMT -6
Could it what you want but HUMAN NATURE will always win out.
Since the beginning of time people have hated their neighbors for whatever reason.
If the world was to collapse into anarchy, it will be race against race, ideology against ideology.
It is just all world games and power play in the world today. Nothing has really changed.
Belief IS Reality
Loki Dreaming
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Post by lokidreaming on Jun 8, 2011 2:11:54 GMT -6
During my brief living in North Shore and observing other asains and also recently observing how the asain commuity interact with or without nother races and came across a pitfall most ethnic communities make.
New Zealand is has been in the mist of growing pains (since 1985) regarding new arrivals and intergrating all this new culture while trying to reamin KIWI.
What the ethnic communities do, is eg, the Koreans will help the other Koreans out by hiring Koreans and doing business with other Koreanss, Japanese do this, Chinses do this, Indians do this etc etc, liken to the popular belief that Jews stick together adn recommend lawyers etc who are Jewish.
This is where the problem lies, the ethnick community goes racail equlity, what about us?
They can't see that they are segregating themselves unhealthly from the other races which breeds bad habitual habits for the gernerations to come.
I see how it is beneficial for those ethnick communities to help each other, however I see it as adding to the racial tensions inh the long run.
Don't get me started on the rich ethnic people lobbying policitally to change the country more to there liking as I am not amused!!!
So is there a healthy way for them to do this without stoking the racial tensions any higner?
Belief IS Reality
Loki Dreaming
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Post by sin on Jun 8, 2011 5:50:50 GMT -6
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Jun 9, 2011 17:33:10 GMT -6
Well personally I find the whole concept of national Socialism,in it's entirety and racism to be a sad aspect of the human past that should not even be practiced in any form.
Plus I find it generally staid and boring!
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Post by dudetyson on Jun 9, 2011 18:13:06 GMT -6
In terms of the media, I actually don't believe the media is trying to get me to feel guilty about being white. I think the media is trying to give me an impression that unnamed, unseen forces are trying to make me feel guilty about being white and I should be angry about it...even though in practice, most racial minorities I deal with have no problem with me at all.
What Belarion, Narlool, and Azodul said. Class war not race war.
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