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Post by Erebos on Mar 19, 2011 12:50:47 GMT -6
Hello, I have always been interested in politics/ the running of countries. Since this is so I would like to create a political organization with solid principles, and active recruiting. Now I have attempted this before and acquired a few followers plus a site, but unfortunately I became extremely busy and everything kind of just decayed away. However, now I plan to try again with more vigor and focus. I post this here because I believe in quite a few principles of this cult and a lot can actually be converted to political principles as well. Now I am looking for some help and I believe this is the place to look for it. What I am looking for right now are people who have knowledge in creating websites, writers, and people to help me plan and outline the organization even more. I ask that any vital production of the group not me done on this thread. You can volunteer here and discuss some but not all that much. The reason for this is because I do not too much of combining of religion and politics and for future concerns. Politics is a lot about image and if some kind of enemy group found out we originated from here they could use that against the group. You can message me if you wish or post here, I do have a site up but it isn't all that great and would like to create something better. ideasforacountry.webs.com/ here is the link to the site. Keep in mind I haven't worked on it in a while and I still need to change the wording of a few things because I'm shifting to something else. |
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Post by loganvonkannibal on Mar 19, 2011 17:15:18 GMT -6
I've recently been interested by it to, I'd love to help brother!
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Post by Erebos on Mar 21, 2011 15:53:03 GMT -6
Excellent, but do you know what you could do, or better put like to do? Anything from the list up there or anything else you can possibly think of. We are extremely small since I am literally just now creating it and we probably have a total of 3 members.
Also if there is anyone that would like to help but not actually join I would greatly appreciate it. Such as going to the site and seeing which picture looks better, creating a symbol for us, or helping to think of a name because I am not to set on my old thought of Brotherhood of Freedom or Knights of Liberty.
Also I must learn how to be a public speaker. I am terrible at this at the moment as I can barely speak right as it is and am unsure how I would do in front of large crowds. If anyone has any advice or assistance in this mater please help. If anyone knows any good books that will show me the ropes of speeches, that would also be wonderful.
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Post by loganvonkannibal on Mar 29, 2011 8:18:48 GMT -6
I'm an okay public speaker...
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Post by Erebos on Mar 29, 2011 9:40:11 GMT -6
I see, well you should go to the site and look around at what we have so far and maybe sign up for it. Right now we aren't in the greatest need of public speakers but I believe we will soon enough.
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Post by boksmutant on Mar 30, 2011 22:33:08 GMT -6
The easiest way I got through the public speaking issue, was to go to another city where the people don't know you & spout ideas you got on a busy street corner lol. Read poetry or speak on something you believe in to an anonymous crowed. Its scary at first but then you realize the people don't matter & they'll gladly play their role as the public. ha ha.
As for the political aspect, that sounds interesting. Send me a couple details.
Awake!
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Post by loganvonkannibal on Mar 31, 2011 0:11:38 GMT -6
I finally got the site working!! I've joined, but we need to establish where this is going and what are our views, and how we are going to get them heard, other than I look forward to seeing this evolve into something great!
Awake!
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!!!
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Post by boksmutant on Mar 31, 2011 0:42:50 GMT -6
Just signed up with you Erebos, the site looks good. More detail about your self & what some of your aims will be with it will be necessary. Put some personal back ground about why you what this site to do what it will do, give it some of your personality.
But looks good.
Awake!
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Post by Erebos on Mar 31, 2011 8:57:35 GMT -6
Yeah I have been writing our views and the groups details just this week. I am hoping to have the points laid out by the end of this week and then a little bit later I will go into more detail with them. As for public speaking I may try that and I found someone close to me who wants to help with the group and may help me with public speaking. If you guys have any ideas on something that needs to be said, say it now.
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Post by loganvonkannibal on Mar 31, 2011 9:20:32 GMT -6
Ok, I do have something to say. I think we need to take ideas from the Democrats, the Republicans, the Liberals, the Anarchists, and the Fascist to make our organization maore appling. By doing this we make the group more diverse, overall getting more members
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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Post by Erebos on Mar 31, 2011 9:30:41 GMT -6
I knew this would be a good place to look for support. That was part of my idea with an ideal government. It needs to be almost Fascist in times of emergency, it also needs to be a bit Socialistic on several things which I will hopefully write later, the Democratic so the peoples voice can be heard. However, I may need some assistance I have lost touch on what Republicans, Democrats, Liberals and such really believe in. I have rough ideas but they have become quite shameful in my eyes so for a time I just ignored them.
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 31, 2011 12:58:14 GMT -6
I have been thinking about politics too. Will be posting my thoughts and plans on the website soon. At that time, I will be looking for feedback.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis
Ipsissimus
Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by loganvonkannibal on Mar 31, 2011 16:05:09 GMT -6
I'm taking the Cult of Cthulhu straight to the white house!
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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Post by Erebos on Mar 31, 2011 19:13:46 GMT -6
Alright I got a brief writing up that describes the groups beliefs in the political aspects. ideasforacountry.webs.com/aboutusourbeliefs.htm Heres the link straight to it, check it out if you are interested and keep in mine is is just a summary I will go into more detail soon enough on the matters that I feel must be expressed. |
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Post by loganvonkannibal on Mar 31, 2011 20:14:07 GMT -6
I am excited to see where this goes!!! One of us should give some form of a speech in a public setting.
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Post by Erebos on Mar 31, 2011 20:52:10 GMT -6
Yes, we do, but where and how do we get people's attention? We could try boksmutanis's idea just preaching to a random crowd, it may work but not as effective as renting out a building or something. An example Hitler started out by preaching in beer halls, we could do something similar, but I am unsure on the way to go. I suppose handing out fliers and advertisement to some event somewhere may be useful and could work.
After all this a speech would need to be written, if we are doing boksmutanis's suggestion it would need to be a speech that could catch the attention of anyone passing by and set up so they could jump right in without being lost.
If its in some type of hall it would be easier to create a speech, first time it would be easy we could just describe the groups goals and ambitions, and from there it would go on without too much struggle.
I am working on my speech writing and hopefully soon I will begin public speaking.
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Post by boksmutant on Mar 31, 2011 21:02:11 GMT -6
This part is excellent. Its a fucking joke how we think our prison system is a deterrent for criminals. If you start a gang on the streets, it wont truly be feared or respected till its been tested in prison. Your opponents on the street are criminals, so you need a rep in our prisons if you want to get anywhere. Its all circular bullshit that takes youths off the street to make the gang stronger in prison. Lame deterrent if you ask me.
We could easily put more time into giving inmates something better to do than staring at a wall hopping Bible class next week will blot out the fear & boredom they experience most of the day lol.
A spelling error with the word"how" while discussing the mosque in New York. FYI.
Anyway its pretty bad ass. Ill post on it latter.
Awake!
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Post by loganvonkannibal on Mar 31, 2011 21:14:32 GMT -6
Yes, we do, but where and how do we get people's attention? We could try boksmutanis's idea just preaching to a random crowd, it may work but not as effective as renting out a building or something. An example Hitler started out by preaching in beer halls, we could do something similar, but I am unsure on the way to go. I suppose handing out fliers and advertisement to some event somewhere may be useful and could work. After all this a speech would need to be written, if we are doing boksmutanis's suggestion it would need to be a speech that could catch the attention of anyone passing by and set up so they could jump right in without being lost. If its in some type of hall it would be easier to create a speech, first time it would be easy we could just describe the groups goals and ambitions, and from there it would go on without too much struggle. I am working on my speech writing and hopefully soon I will begin public speaking. Sounds good, brother! If you could, please PM me the speech, I'd love to read it! |
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Post by Erebos on Mar 31, 2011 21:31:42 GMT -6
Yes, we do, but where and how do we get people's attention? We could try boksmutanis's idea just preaching to a random crowd, it may work but not as effective as renting out a building or something. An example Hitler started out by preaching in beer halls, we could do something similar, but I am unsure on the way to go. I suppose handing out fliers and advertisement to some event somewhere may be useful and could work. After all this a speech would need to be written, if we are doing boksmutanis's suggestion it would need to be a speech that could catch the attention of anyone passing by and set up so they could jump right in without being lost. If its in some type of hall it would be easier to create a speech, first time it would be easy we could just describe the groups goals and ambitions, and from there it would go on without too much struggle. I am working on my speech writing and hopefully soon I will begin public speaking. Sounds good, brother! If you could, please PM me the speech, I'd love to read it! First, I need to write a speech and perhaps get some more experience in giving speeches since I never really made a speech to a group. I'm going to work harder at making myself better in this, but I will probably write up at least some points for a speech since from what I've seen people who just read off paper usually do worse than people who fill in the things between your few points. Actually, if you want to look at some points I would probably use speeches just look at the About Us page. Also thank you boksmutanis that is much appreciated. I fixed the error and am glad that this is effective. It is a bit frustrating and funny that I wrote about 6 pages on crime like that point, but it all got deleted by mistake. |
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Post by Erebos on Apr 1, 2011 14:03:31 GMT -6
Alright, I got a lot done on the site, changed a lot of wording added some things. I also got a Facebook fanpage up too, so if you want to you can join that. There are now like buttons on the website and if you already looked around the site you may want to again since I made a lot of small changes and large changes. Heres the fanpage link: www.facebook.com/pages/The-Brotherhood-of-Freedom/193471367361520I also have a Twitter page up as well. Even though I have always hated Twitter for some reason I figured it may be useful. @broffreedom |
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Post by Erebos on Apr 8, 2011 21:29:40 GMT -6
Hate triple posting, but I am using this thread as both a communication relay and an organizer to see what I am doing. But I did get a medium sized writing about the Government Shutdown in the News section of the Brotherhood's site. Mostly about how our government is indecisive and incompetent about handling such matters. ideasforacountry.webs.com/apps/blog/ Heres the link. |
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Post by boksmutant on Apr 8, 2011 22:18:12 GMT -6
Just posted Erebos & the site looks good. I'm not so much into politics but my cousin is a mad genius with it & he always gets me going. He purposes a start over with everything having to do with our monetary system, saying that we need to reconfigure the status of the dollar bill first. A bunch of shit.
They must have allowed us (the public) to be apart of this for a reason, since it could be preparing us for something a little further down the road. That's my guess. What this will do to the pubic will be very interesting.
Hail the Cult!
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Post by Erebos on Apr 9, 2011 21:28:01 GMT -6
Indeed, we definitely need a great reform in all aspects of the government. It has been rotted through and will not be able to stand much longer. As for your cousin I would be interested to hear from him. Could you refer him to the group or at least me.
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Post by Narlool L'Pah on Apr 9, 2011 22:04:48 GMT -6
Can I suggest something as a Non-American?
In Australia our current Prime Minister is a Childless Woman, who lives with her male partner, who she isn't married to, and is openly an Atheist.
Do you think a person like that could be elected president today?
I think a big part of your issues (which you want to change) is cultural. That needs to be changed before politics can be fixed. That's a mammoth task, but better suited to a 'lobby' style group or educational institution.
Politics won't change until the culture progresses from the 18th Century.
AWAKE!
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Post by Erebos on Apr 9, 2011 22:34:22 GMT -6
Yes, Narlool L'Pah, that is completely correct, but it is a very difficult thing to change a culture of an entire nation. That is one of the purposes in my group, but we believe in a huge reform of the government as well as the media and many other things. We will change the culture through this organization by our ideas and we may need to acquire some power in these politics so we can change the culture to change the politics. Behind our main principles is culture since we believe the U.S. has shifted from its principles and a lot of its principles are cultural in a way.
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Post by boksmutant on Apr 22, 2011 20:45:11 GMT -6
What sucks is it just come's down to voting power. That's what the government bows to & I guess rightfully so. When a group becomes a big part of that, then the government start's to listen & make changes. But right now we got a lot of groups pulling the strings that will do what they have to too survive. These are the ones pulling the strings & fucking it up for the rest of us.
What would be cool is identifying the most fucked up groups of all, that are the most powerful & find away to bring them down, or use them.
Awake!
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Post by Erebos on Apr 28, 2011 16:19:57 GMT -6
Indeed, you are very correct boksmutant. I have thought on this as well and have come to a few possibilities. Your's is one I have thought of because no doubt we would have to become greater than the two main parties now which would mean having to bring them down a few steps. As for using them there isn't much we could get from them besides maybe some support from a few if our ideas match a little and to use their incompetence to prove many points on our dieing system. I figured if we want to capture voting power we would need roughly 1/3 of the U.S. population on our side. That is a huge feat since that is at least 50 million people if you look at how many are registered to vote and a 100 million if we want to form large rallies and marches to show that we are the way. No matter what we do we will be bombarded by the news agencies very hard because they just want ratings and to pull strings. It is hard to combat this since if we do people will claim we are blocking freedom of speech. So I figured we start preemptive strikes on these news providers so the initial people will see their greed and hear the truth. Eventually we could start our own little news station but for a few reasons I am not too fond of the idea. I suppose armed revolt would be another possibility but this is probably the least likely way to succeed. Considering the U.S. has a strong spy system and strong military a civilian militia may not work so well. Most armed revolts in the past have started in weak countries where the government is in ruins. A coup would be a possibility though which might work. I am not going to support to much of this right now though. On another note I finished a writing on what our opposition may be and why. Check it out in the "About Us: Our Beliefs" area of the site at the bottom. ideasforacountry.webs.com/aboutusourbeliefs.htm |
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