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Post by Hupadgh N'ghft on Mar 9, 2011 15:33:10 GMT -6
I have grown up in a safe environment with only white people, the first time I saw a person who wasn't white was when I was 10 and visited a future school, there was one black kid, ONE, and I thought "How weird, I haven't seen a Negro before" At that time no one seemed offended that I said "Negro" but if I would say it today, I would get beaten by a gang. When I grew up you could safely walk the streets of Gothenburg at any time at any day without having to worry about getting beat up by immigrants.
I am 16 now and everywhere I look I see Muslims, Jews, and Black people, and when I say Muslims and Jews I mean those people who goes around with their religious clothing on, like them head scarfs and Jew hats, I can honestly say that I am scared to be in the same building as a Muslim if they would suddenly blow up because of a "Jihad" on my people. I am scared to walk the streets alone, even in daylight, because everywhere I look, people stare at me with that look that says "If I ever catch you alone in an alley, I'm going to murder you"
When I was a kid, the only terrorists I had heard of were those that attacked WTC in 2001, and I didn't really understand it, but now that we've had Terrorist attacks here in my country, even in my city, I get scared, I can't stand close to an Arab in fear of him blowing up. I'm also scared of some black people, the ones who just stands in a corner looking like a drug dealer and surely has a gun, I mean, what the fuck would I do if he pulled a gun at me?
I don't mind Jews, they aren't as crazy as Muslims and drug using Negroes, in fact, in one of my schools there was this black girl who was also a Muslim that my friend threw an apple at, she walked up to me and asked what the fuck I did it for, I told her that I didn't do anything and she suddenly starts yapping in that "Derka derka" language, and at one point she called me a racist, so I replied "Well fine, I'm a racist and you are just a stupid fucking nigger" And I automatically got the "RACIST" stamp on my head. So, after reading this, am I a racist or just a scared Patriot?
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Post by jasonsorrell on Mar 9, 2011 17:49:03 GMT -6
I have grown up in a safe environment with only white people, the first time I saw a person who wasn't white was when I was 10 and visited a future school, there was one black kid, ONE, and I thought "How weird, I haven't seen a Negro before" At that time no one seemed offended that I said "Negro" but if I would say it today, I would get beaten by a gang. When I grew up you could safely walk the streets of Gothenburg at any time at any day without having to worry about getting beat up by immigrants. I am 16 now and everywhere I look I see Muslims, Jews, and Black people, and when I say Muslims and Jews I mean those people who goes around with their religious clothing on, like them head scarfs and Jew hats, I can honestly say that I am scared to be in the same building as a Muslim if they would suddenly blow up because of a "Jihad" on my people. I am scared to walk the streets alone, even in daylight, because everywhere I look, people stare at me with that look that says "If I ever catch you alone in an alley, I'm going to murder you" When I was a kid, the only terrorists I had heard of were those that attacked WTC in 2001, and I didn't really understand it, but now that we've had Terrorist attacks here in my country, even in my city, I get scared, I can't stand close to an Arab in fear of him blowing up. I'm also scared of some black people, the ones who just stands in a corner looking like a drug dealer and surely has a gun, I mean, what the fuck would I do if he pulled a gun at me? I don't mind Jews, they aren't as crazy as Muslims and drug using Negroes, in fact, in one of my schools there was this black girl who was also a Muslim that my friend threw an apple at, she walked up to me and asked what the fuck I did it for, I told her that I didn't do anything and she suddenly starts yapping in that "Derka derka" language, and at one point she called me a racist, so I replied "Well fine, I'm a racist and you are just a stupid fucking nigger" And I automatically got the "RACIST" stamp on my head. So, after reading this, am I a racist or just a scared Patriot? You're a chump. We live in a scary world. We are reaching an apex in events when the world will have to choose between the safety and security of some uniform code of identity or the risks of each Individual surviving by their own merit and saying "no more" to all those that believe they are entitled to what you have earned. That is, if you manage to discover your Individualism, to become a Master of your House, before it is too late. A part of that Process is not taking blame for someone else's mistakes. Your friend, the one who threw the apple, is an asshole. He is a xenophobe who sees something different, and chooses to assault that difference. Yeah, throwing an apple is going to show the world that they need to conform to whatever his or her ideal is. What courage, to chuck an apple at some kid's head an run. That person is an asshole, but being an asshole takes a twinkling Individualism. You are a chump... or a douche-bag. You took the blame for the action of another... the WRONGFUL action of another... and you tried to right it off as a mark of pride! Ratting out your friend may not have been the correct thing to do, but not standing your ground and INSISTING that you did nothing to this girl, and DEMANDING that you would not be a foil in her reverse-racism trip has all the earmarks of a limp-wristed wuss. I am sorry if this sounds harsh... and you can't handle it. Read your post! You WANT to be the victim! You excuse your lack of a spine by telling us all how afraid you are of all the weirdos in your neighborhood... and all your own stereotypes chasing you in your mind. And then you come here to cry about it. You think the weirdos here are safer?
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Post by Erebos on Mar 9, 2011 18:41:46 GMT -6
In my opinion, that sounds a little racists. You are not an awful bigot like some are but from what you say you are definitely showing signs of racism. I will tell you right now that racists are one of my hates in the world. This is mostly true because not one of them ever has been able to prove their ideas are right to me, and I believe every race can develop the same. However, something about your writing shifts my opinion of you a little, you are probably someone I wouldn't hate.
There are roughly three types of racists.
One is the knowing racist who, likes being racist, and thinks his race is the best race. This is the worst kind in my mind as they have no basis on their ideas and lifestyle. They think their ways are superior with no consideration to anyone else out there.
Another would be the racist who is racist because of maybe a trauma in their past. This could be anything from terrorism to murder that was caused by another race, near them. This may make a picture in their mind that other races are dangerous and bad. These are not as bad, but they still are wrong. Their ideas are understandable but only on a mental/emotional level as they usually do not look at any science behind it.
Then there are the unknowing racist who go about their lives with a racist attitude but not realizing it. These are also pretty bad as it shows they have little control over their mind and actions. They take their race as superior on a sub-conscience level and may throw out a rude remark here and there.
I'm running out of time so I will wrap this up now. You are racist from what you have written, but you do have hope since you realize this and have a tone that you want to overcome it. My help is that I will say that very race has its bads no matter what. There are white murderers, thieves, and terrorists just as there are in every race. The only difference is that they may look different.
You must also take into account how the media sways you and the environment. The media is possibly what makes a lot of people racists because the more noticeable things are that with another race. Then the environment matters because it depends on how that races' culture develops. Muslims are centered in the desert mostly with a poor thriving civilization meaning they may not be as civilized, but lets say you take on of their children at an early age. If you raise them up in the U.S. they would probably become just like any other American. There is some basis in racism but not much.
Just remember a white person is jut as likely to stab you in the back as a black person is to shoot you.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Mar 9, 2011 20:03:27 GMT -6
I have grown up in a safe environment with only white people, the first time I saw a person who wasn't white was when I was 10 and visited a future school, there was one black kid, ONE, and I thought "How weird, I haven't seen a Negro before" At that time no one seemed offended that I said "Negro" but if I would say it today, I would get beaten by a gang. When I grew up you could safely walk the streets of Gothenburg at any time at any day without having to worry about getting beat up by immigrants. I am 16 now and everywhere I look I see Muslims, Jews, and Black people, and when I say Muslims and Jews I mean those people who goes around with their religious clothing on, like them head scarfs and Jew hats, I can honestly say that I am scared to be in the same building as a Muslim if they would suddenly blow up because of a "Jihad" on my people. I am scared to walk the streets alone, even in daylight, because everywhere I look, people stare at me with that look that says "If I ever catch you alone in an alley, I'm going to murder you" When I was a kid, the only terrorists I had heard of were those that attacked WTC in 2001, and I didn't really understand it, but now that we've had Terrorist attacks here in my country, even in my city, I get scared, I can't stand close to an Arab in fear of him blowing up. I'm also scared of some black people, the ones who just stands in a corner looking like a drug dealer and surely has a gun, I mean, what the fuck would I do if he pulled a gun at me? I don't mind Jews, they aren't as crazy as Muslims and drug using Negroes, in fact, in one of my schools there was this black girl who was also a Muslim that my friend threw an apple at, she walked up to me and asked what the fuck I did it for, I told her that I didn't do anything and she suddenly starts yapping in that "Derka derka" language, and at one point she called me a racist, so I replied "Well fine, I'm a racist and you are just a stupid fucking nigger" And I automatically got the "RACIST" stamp on my head. So, after reading this, am I a racist or just a scared Patriot? You're a chump. We live in a scary world. We are reaching an apex in events when the world will have to choose between the safety and security of some uniform code of identity or the risks of each Individual surviving by their own merit and saying "no more" to all those that believe they are entitled to what you have earned. That is, if you manage to discover your Individualism, to become a Master of your House, before it is too late. A part of that Process is not taking blame for someone else's mistakes. Your friend, the one who threw the apple, is an asshole. He is a xenophobe who sees something different, and chooses to assault that difference. Yeah, throwing an apple is going to show the world that they need to conform to whatever his or her ideal is. What courage, to chuck an apple at some kid's head an run. That person is an asshole, but being an asshole takes a twinkling Individualism. You are a chump... or a douche-bag. You took the blame for the action of another... the WRONGFUL action of another... and you tried to right it off as a mark of pride! Ratting out your friend may not have been the correct thing to do, but not standing your ground and INSISTING that you did nothing to this girl, and DEMANDING that you would not be a foil in her reverse-racism trip has all the earmarks of a limp-wristed wuss. I am sorry if this sounds harsh... and you can't handle it. Read your post! You WANT to be the victim! You excuse your lack of a spine by telling us all how afraid you are of all the weirdos in your neighborhood... and all your own stereotypes chasing you in your mind. And then you come here to cry about it. You think the weirdos here are safer? Not taking side here just trying to point out something he did tell her,and I quote:"she walked up to me and asked what the fuck I did it for, I told her that I didn't do anything". She was being rather ignorant and wanted to place the blame no matter what from the sounds of it.
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Post by darkknight on Mar 9, 2011 20:15:22 GMT -6
I have grown up in a safe environment with only white people, the first time I saw a person who wasn't white was when I was 10 and visited a future school, there was one black kid, ONE, and I thought "How weird, I haven't seen a Negro before" At that time no one seemed offended that I said "Negro" but if I would say it today, I would get beaten by a gang. When I grew up you could safely walk the streets of Gothenburg at any time at any day without having to worry about getting beat up by immigrants. I am 16 now and everywhere I look I see Muslims, Jews, and Black people, and when I say Muslims and Jews I mean those people who goes around with their religious clothing on, like them head scarfs and Jew hats, I can honestly say that I am scared to be in the same building as a Muslim if they would suddenly blow up because of a "Jihad" on my people. I am scared to walk the streets alone, even in daylight, because everywhere I look, people stare at me with that look that says "If I ever catch you alone in an alley, I'm going to murder you" When I was a kid, the only terrorists I had heard of were those that attacked WTC in 2001, and I didn't really understand it, but now that we've had Terrorist attacks here in my country, even in my city, I get scared, I can't stand close to an Arab in fear of him blowing up. I'm also scared of some black people, the ones who just stands in a corner looking like a drug dealer and surely has a gun, I mean, what the fuck would I do if he pulled a gun at me? I don't mind Jews, they aren't as crazy as Muslims and drug using Negroes, in fact, in one of my schools there was this black girl who was also a Muslim that my friend threw an apple at, she walked up to me and asked what the fuck I did it for, I told her that I didn't do anything and she suddenly starts yapping in that "Derka derka" language, and at one point she called me a racist, so I replied "Well fine, I'm a racist and you are just a stupid fucking nigger" And I automatically got the "RACIST" stamp on my head. So, after reading this, am I a racist or just a scared Patriot? I think thast you should resign from this forum because there is no way that you can evolve spiritually, or magically, or whatever you want to call it, and have fear of other human beings who exist in the world. There is good and bad in all people, Not for nothing, why don't you go ask a Native American who is a terrorist? If you can find one in your area.
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Post by jasonsorrell on Mar 9, 2011 21:57:42 GMT -6
Not taking side here just trying to point out something he did tell her,and I quote:"she walked up to me and asked what the fuck I did it for, I told her that I didn't do anything". She was being rather ignorant and wanted to place the blame no matter what from the sounds of it. Well spotted and I agree with your point, her own racism I am certain played a factor in her response, but this kid cannot be anymore responsible for her action than he claimed to be for the kid that threw the apple. He can only be responsible for himself, and he lacked the spine to do so. Even coming in here and asking for validation is an act of cowardice and an insult to everyone here... He thought that he would find agreement here for his xenophobia and lack of common sense?
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Post by Hupadgh N'ghft on Mar 10, 2011 0:03:29 GMT -6
Interesting responses, very interesting indeed. Jason, the question was wether or not I was a racist, and it seems that I am to some extent, and I didn't lack the spine as you say, I just don't behave like other people because I have Aspergers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 1:44:16 GMT -6
R'luh Orr'e N'ghft,
Don't worry and don't care about Jason you know who he is.
You're not racist I think, your emotions are normal, usual.
You fear to be "racist" because there is a lot, a lot of propaganda everywhere in our society to NOT be racist, as it is, according to the propaganda, the ultimate sin. That is why the black girl is quick to call any white racist.
To attack someone different is a human and animal instinct. In a "natural" state, in the wild, that's how a tribe or a horde stay a tribe : it's us VS the others. This instinct, still in you and in a majority of people, is why you feel the fear, and why symmetrically the black standing in the corner is looking at you more aggressively than he's looking at his fellow african-american.
Now, it is bad to be driven by instincts alone, so Observe yourself, see that's an instinct and live free of fear or resentment that's will be better. Better to judge people individually !
Muslims are not blowing themselves every where and every day... Use your reason and you will understand that the risk is very low.
Probably thinking to much about this allow your emotions to take over.
Awake !
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Post by jasonsorrell on Mar 10, 2011 8:28:50 GMT -6
Interesting responses, very interesting indeed. Jason, the question was wether or not I was a racist, and it seems that I am to some extent, and I didn't lack the spine as you say, I just don't behave like other people because I have Aspergers. Is Aspergers another excuse for your behavior, or something you are striving to manage and overcome? I understand what it is, and my point is that you remain responsible for your choices. Your disorder means only that you have to make a greater effort. If you are to Awaken, then any crutch you lean on will only hold you back. But, Yrreiht is right. "Don't worry and don't care about Jason you know who he is." Keep your excuses, if you would rather have excuses instead of results.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Mar 10, 2011 16:37:56 GMT -6
Not taking side here just trying to point out something he did tell her,and I quote:"she walked up to me and asked what the fuck I did it for, I told her that I didn't do anything". She was being rather ignorant and wanted to place the blame no matter what from the sounds of it. Well spotted and I agree with your point, her own racism I am certain played a factor in her response, but this kid cannot be anymore responsible for her action than he claimed to be for the kid that threw the apple. He can only be responsible for himself, and he lacked the spine to do so. Even coming in here and asking for validation is an act of cowardice and an insult to everyone here... He thought that he would find agreement here for his xenophobia and lack of common sense? Well i'm of this view,we could point out where he went wrong,and then suggest ways he can build up his self confidence and will power so that when in situations like that he will stand firm for himself,instead of attacking and basically tearing him down even lower,at least thats one of my veiw points in life after having up until my teens been the victim of that approach by an abusive stepfather,so maybe it's just my experinces in life says instead of attacking the young man we should help him,give him pointers and advice(if he's want it) to help him buoild himself up so when this kind of stuff happens he takes the "No More"stance and shuts them down without falling into their traps.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Mar 10, 2011 16:40:51 GMT -6
I have grown up in a safe environment with only white people, the first time I saw a person who wasn't white was when I was 10 and visited a future school, there was one black kid, ONE, and I thought "How weird, I haven't seen a Negro before" At that time no one seemed offended that I said "Negro" but if I would say it today, I would get beaten by a gang. When I grew up you could safely walk the streets of Gothenburg at any time at any day without having to worry about getting beat up by immigrants. I am 16 now and everywhere I look I see Muslims, Jews, and Black people, and when I say Muslims and Jews I mean those people who goes around with their religious clothing on, like them head scarfs and Jew hats, I can honestly say that I am scared to be in the same building as a Muslim if they would suddenly blow up because of a "Jihad" on my people. I am scared to walk the streets alone, even in daylight, because everywhere I look, people stare at me with that look that says "If I ever catch you alone in an alley, I'm going to murder you" When I was a kid, the only terrorists I had heard of were those that attacked WTC in 2001, and I didn't really understand it, but now that we've had Terrorist attacks here in my country, even in my city, I get scared, I can't stand close to an Arab in fear of him blowing up. I'm also scared of some black people, the ones who just stands in a corner looking like a drug dealer and surely has a gun, I mean, what the fuck would I do if he pulled a gun at me? I don't mind Jews, they aren't as crazy as Muslims and drug using Negroes, in fact, in one of my schools there was this black girl who was also a Muslim that my friend threw an apple at, she walked up to me and asked what the fuck I did it for, I told her that I didn't do anything and she suddenly starts yapping in that "Derka derka" language, and at one point she called me a racist, so I replied "Well fine, I'm a racist and you are just a stupid fucking nigger" And I automatically got the "RACIST" stamp on my head. So, after reading this, am I a racist or just a scared Patriot? I think thast you should resign from this forum because there is no way that you can evolve spiritually, or magically, or whatever you want to call it, and have fear of other human beings who exist in the world. There is good and bad in all people, Not for nothing, why don't you go ask a Native American who is a terrorist? If you can find one in your area. Look he has admitted he had grown up in a safe environment,I know this you take a person out of a safe environment and put them in a new one thats not so safe,just like any other animal the feel fear,the think is not to succumb to it but to master it and over cumb it...and that does not happen over night! Just give the man time,instead of being the Prophet of Doom!!
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Mar 11, 2011 12:02:43 GMT -6
Ever hear the theory that everyone is at least a little bit racist?
Anyway, I'm with Timotheus on this one. He needs to simply overcome his primal fears and urges and realize that the world isn't in fact trying to kill him because he's white! My advice is to take it one day at a time. If you can make it to tomorrow without being stabbed or blown up, your doing fine!
Btw, I too have Asperger's, but long ago decided to not make it a crutch, but a strength! I use what I know I'm good at (because of the disorder) in order to overcome what would normally be a burden...
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Post by Erebos on Mar 11, 2011 18:18:28 GMT -6
I agree with what most of the people here said, even that seems a little contradictory. However, my main reason for writing this is to speak about Asperger's just a little to try and help.
A while ago a friend of mine said I probably have Asperger's, and he described some symptoms that did sound like me. He was in college for psychology as well I believe so it gives a little more weight to what he said. Although, I'm not too sure I actually have it as it hasn't been diagnosed by anyone professional, though, after reading a few internet pages on it a little more it seems like I might have it as I exhibit many of the symptoms besides for a few. For the symptoms that I don't show I noticed that they were most likely not there because I have learned early on to better myself and watch myself so I have improved a few of my qualities. I am still socially awkward at times but that is getting better along with some other symptoms that still show.
Now my main point for writing this is to try and help you a little. If your racism is partially caused by Asperger's, which I could imagine, then there is still hope. I have overcame many of my problems that may have been caused by this so I am sure that you would be able to overcome yours. Remember I'm not sure if I actually have it and if I do it probably isn't as severe as some others may be. So hopefully this will help.
Also if someone with Asperger's could message me I would greatly appreciate it. I would like to get some personal information on this so I might be able to diagnose myself, or maybe you could even help in diagnosing myself.
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Post by matthaeus on Mar 11, 2011 22:00:18 GMT -6
I agree with most of what has been said above. Racism is just your reptile brain's fear of the "other."
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Post by loganvonkannibal on Mar 19, 2011 17:31:10 GMT -6
Look we all have a tad bit of racism in us, it's just the way the world works, personally I'm hated by alot of mexicans for being gay and now I'm afraid to a degree of them becasuse igot the shit beaten out of me by one, but I wouldn't consider yourself a racist you just weren't raised around different people so you're just getting used to it, no big deal.
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Post by rhuarc on Mar 22, 2011 20:33:46 GMT -6
Well I mean Im a muslim and Im not about to blow up anybody. Lets just say that 10% of all muslims are terrorists. Well there are 1.6 billion muslims in the world so 10% of 1.6 billion is 160 million. Lets just say that those 160 million had a bomb and killed at least 5 people (including themselves) thats a death toll of 800 million people thats almost 1/6 of the worlds population right there. So obviously not all muslims are terrorists because if it were the case we would all be dead. So please let this help wash away your stereotypes
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Post by Hupadgh N'ghft on Mar 23, 2011 9:06:59 GMT -6
Well I mean Im a muslim and Im not about to blow up anybody. Lets just say that 10% of all muslims are terrorists. Well there are 1.6 billion muslims in the world so 10% of 1.6 billion is 160 million. Lets just say that those 160 million had a bomb and killed at least 5 people (including themselves) thats a death toll of 800 million people thats almost 1/6 of the worlds population right there. So obviously not all muslims are terrorists because if it were the case we would all be dead. So please let this help wash away your stereotypes Thank you, it actually really helps to hear it from a muslim.
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Post by lokidreaming on Mar 29, 2011 5:39:00 GMT -6
First thing that came to my mind was OUCH!!!
Second thing that came to my mind WTF were your parents thinking?
I was so tempted and still tempted to blame your parents for your current state of racial limbo, then i realized you have acknowledged this so my question to you is what are you going to do to rectify this situation?
Belief Is Reality Loki Dreaming
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