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Post by jasonsorrell on Feb 25, 2011 17:31:48 GMT -6
WHAT?! You me that someone here is promoting themselves and their message in a venue where the other participants tend to have nothing but contempt for that person and/or message? How could someone from this prestigious gathering lack the awareness to do that? You have got to be kidding! Seriously, not looking for payback or any kind of justice, but I am interested in being paid. I have a number of products of different kinds that the participants of this forum have expressed an interest in. I am just a humble trader, a profiteer, seeking to earn a reward... whatever form that may take. Would my message be better received if I announced my ascendence to Ipsissimus? ;)Intention nicely veiled with a sardonic sense of humour. Well done, brother. I like your products, and support your artistic endeavors. It makes no difference to me what title you hold. If you have something that I find of value, I will consider buying it, or contributing to it as I have already. As for forum protocol. Whatever. If the creator wants it that way, and I choose to use the forum, then It really isn't such a big hump to get over. Awake! Dark Prism Thank you for your fair trade.
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Post by symbolicone on Feb 25, 2011 17:35:49 GMT -6
Depends on your definition of "productive". Thus far, this has been one of my most productive days on the CoC forum, by my measurement of productivity. Do you always make people ask the obvious questions? Either way, how do you measure productivity? Perhaps even more important, what have you gained from today's "productive" discussion? What do you suppose others have gained? I suppose you've gotten people to post, which is literally productive, if that's what you had meant. Awake!
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Post by jasonsorrell on Feb 25, 2011 17:49:00 GMT -6
Do you always make people ask the obvious questions? Yes. Yes I do. Either way, how do you measure productivity? I don't have time to list them here. I tend to lead by example. I am certain you will figure it out... you being so clever and all. That is not a shot. I mean it. Perhaps even more important, what have you gained from today's "productive" discussion? What do you suppose others have gained? I can only speak for myself. Everyone else will need to decide if their participation has been at a profit or a loss. I suppose you've gotten people to post, which is literally productive, if that's what you had meant. That has profited the CoC. You are all welcome.
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Post by symbolicone on Feb 25, 2011 18:02:22 GMT -6
That is not a shot. I mean it. I appreciate the compliments. I sense they can come sparingly from you. Perhaps you consider yourself to have "high standards"? I can only speak for myself. Everyone else will need to decide if their participation has been at a profit or a loss. So, what have you learned today? I'd say I've profited. I tend to lurk more than I post, and you've inspired me to respond, and it's always with a smile. Plus I've enjoyed many of the other posts in your threads. The many are strengthened by the oppositional one. Awake!
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Post by jasonsorrell on Feb 25, 2011 20:22:10 GMT -6
I appreciate the compliments. I sense they can come sparingly from you. Perhaps you consider yourself to have "high standards"? I cannot say if they are higher, just that I have standards. So, what have you learned today? I'd say I've profited. I tend to lurk more than I post, and you've inspired me to respond, and it's always with a smile. Plus I've enjoyed many of the other posts in your threads. Well, I have learned that to question in this forum can be misconstrued as "negativity", but I kind of new that already. I have learned that it doesn't take much more than my presence to shock some life into this place. I've also learned that an Ipsissimus can ask me to make him understand while failing to recognize that understanding only comes from experience. But these lessons are secondary to how I have profited. Awake![/quote]
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Post by jasonsorrell on Feb 25, 2011 20:24:16 GMT -6
You posted about your now-closed puppet account before I finished my post responding to Charles.
I am in a position to question everything; we all are. I'm asking, has your life been so enriched and how do you determine that? Sure, my valuation may vary, but it's your life. Share your understanding!
Understanding cannot be shared, Ipsissimus. It must be experienced.
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Feb 25, 2011 23:05:31 GMT -6
Welcome back, Jason. I hope you accomplish your mission here.
Awake!
Apsara Kamalli Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
PS. SMITE!
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Post by jasonsorrell on Feb 25, 2011 23:46:19 GMT -6
Welcome back, Jason. I hope you accomplish your mission here. Awake! Apsara Kamalli Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu PS. SMITE! Aw, now see... EVERYONE is going to be under the impression that I have some ulterior motive for being here beyond my effort to sell a few more stickers of Cthulhu to the masses. People might suspect that I was sent, or maybe even asked to come back in here to spark this place back to life, and that with my cold profit-motive mentality I would be mercenary enough to do it. That is not the case, so just put those thoughts out of your heads now. No one sent me here, and there most certainly has not been any secret email exchanges, long-distance telephone calls, or meetings among the prominent members of the Satanist subculture and the administrators of this forum to get someone like me to come in here and stimulate some activity in exchange for funds deposited in my PayPal account. Such an idea is preposterous, and anyone who would suggest such a thing would be lying. Do not be fooled... and buy some stickers.
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Post by nyrlthtp on Feb 26, 2011 0:49:19 GMT -6
...I hope you accomplish your mission here. ... hi Apsara Kamalli. I always enjoy your contributions here. Aw, now see... EVERYONE is going to be under the impression that I have some ulterior motive for being here ... hm? not me. I like to take people at face value. I did find the post by Apsara kinda weird, since i figured she'd know more about what you're doing, and her 'SMITE!' thing was amusing. I smited someone recently in response to how they treated you. it was fun.
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Post by hartnell on Feb 26, 2011 4:41:11 GMT -6
Nice to see you. Really. I got this message just now, you. I will go look at the forum rules when I am finished here. I am curious, will your new rules be evenly enforced? Yeah. One of my posts got smacked down by VS and I agreed with it. 'Evenly enforced' is a good description.
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Feb 26, 2011 8:06:00 GMT -6
...I hope you accomplish your mission here. ... hi Apsara Kamalli. I always enjoy your contributions here. Hello! And thank you... The feeling is mutual. Aw, now see... EVERYONE is going to be under the impression that I have some ulterior motive for being here ... Jason, I think you are making your motives quite clear. I doubt anyone will question why you are here or any ulterior motives. hm? not me. I like to take people at face value. I did find the post by Apsara kinda weird, since i figured she'd know more about what you're doing, and her 'SMITE!' thing was amusing. I smited someone recently in response to how they treated you. it was fun. [/right][/quote] My welcome to Jason was merely polite. Of course I was aware of what he was doing, as we tend to discuss all aspects of our existence regularly. We don't always see "eye to eye" about things, but we are very involved in each others journey as our paths are so intertwined. Awake! Apsara Kamalli Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by jasonsorrell on Feb 26, 2011 8:40:38 GMT -6
hi Apsara Kamalli. I always enjoy your contributions here.
Hello! And thank you... The feeling is mutual. Jason, I think you are making your motives quite clear. I doubt anyone will question why you are here or any ulterior motives. hm? not me. I like to take people at face value. I did find the post by Apsara kinda weird, since i figured she'd know more about what you're doing, and her 'SMITE!' thing was amusing. I smited someone recently in response to how they treated you. it was fun. [/right][/quote] My welcome to Jason was merely polite. Of course I was aware of what he was doing, as we tend to discuss all aspects of our existence regularly. We don't always see "eye to eye" about things, but we are very involved in each others journey as our paths are so intertwined. Awake! Apsara Kamalli Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu[/quote] Which means that if there is anything to be "in on", then she is in on it.
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Post by I AM the Way on Feb 26, 2011 12:43:34 GMT -6
I have a sincere wish to keep learning. Not necessarily by you, but from wherever instruction hails.
No, the Ipsissimus does not require your guidance. It sounded like you had something to say, to prove, to teach... perhaps I was wrong.
I admit, that there is sometimes a fine line between self-confidence and arrogance. Occasionally, I may cross it... or am perceived having done so.
The opposite of charity is not justice. At least, that's my opinion. You do yourself a disservice by not considering your audience. There's more than a fine line between sugar-coating something and making it palatable, Jason.
Considering my position would be external consideration, that's the good kind. Just like there are healthy fats and unhealthy fats. Internal consideration is like potato chips while external consideration is like eggs, nuts, and avocado... leading to Awakening!
Instead of struggling to see things as they are, which is impossible, attempt to see things from multiple perspectives at once. That is an infinitely more manageable aim. I appreciate you becoming an element of discussion, and in so doing, instruction. Gratitude, brother.
The Cult of Cthulhu shall never die!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by jasonsorrell on Feb 26, 2011 13:08:59 GMT -6
I have a sincere wish to keep learning. Not necessarily by you, but from wherever instruction hails.
No, the Ipsissimus does not require your guidance. It sounded like you had something to say, to prove, to teach... perhaps I was wrong. What it may be that I have "to say, to prove, to teach", I tend to offer by example or otherwise to those who have earned my making the extra effort. If such a struggle is not for you, then what more can be said? The opposite of charity is not justice. At least, that's my opinion. You do yourself a disservice by not considering your audience. There's more than a fine line between sugar-coating something and making it palatable, Jason. Those with the tenacity and strength of will to accept what I offer undistorted by consideration for weaknesses of character or personal delusions earn what I have to offer. It would be disrespectful to my intended audience to do anything less than provide what I have undiluted. Considering my position would be external consideration, that's the good kind. Just like there are healthy fats and unhealthy fats. Internal consideration is like potato chips while external consideration is like eggs, nuts, and avocado... leading to Awakening! I understand your position, but I will not identify with it. I disagree with your conclusion that somehow considering your position leads to Awakening. As I see it, your position leads to just the opposite. But, my intent here is not to debate with you on this topic. You are fully identified with your position, and will not be able to understand anything else until some shock allows you to consider other, external options. I am here to sell stickers and keep these folks turned-on to what I am doing. Instead of struggling to see things as they are, which is impossible, attempt to see things from multiple perspectives at once. Objective Awareness, the most obvious end-goal of Gurdjieff's system, is the attempt to see things as they are. While the filter of the mind will always be present, Awareness of self and effort can make that filter relatively more clear. The filter is flawed, mechanically, distorting our perspective. Multiple perspectives through a distorted, mechanical filter only leads to multiple routes to Identification... and Sleep. But, that is just my opinion and part of the path I am on to Awakening. Your journey is your own. Again, folks, I am just a guy investing in his own sense of pleasure here and offering a product for those with the means to trade for. Your Ipsissimus should have no reason to feel threatened by me, or reason to try to have me accept the filters he indulges in.
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Post by herbert on Feb 26, 2011 15:09:00 GMT -6
Considering my position would be external consideration, that's the good kind. Just like there are healthy fats and unhealthy fats. Internal consideration is like potato chips while external consideration is like eggs, nuts, and avocado... leading to Awakening!
Instead of struggling to see things as they are, which is impossible, attempt to see things from multiple perspectives at once. That is an infinitely more manageable aim. I appreciate you becoming an element of discussion, and in so doing, instruction. Gratitude, brother. is it me or does this make about as much sense as a mule trying to court a butterfly? isn't seeing things as they are, in effect the same thing as seeing it from multiple perspectives? a person might be inclined to look at things from multiple sides, but that will always be measured against self. all this business about internal/external consideration wreaks like the crap you'll take if your diet really was nothing but "eggs, nuts, and avocado". - just sayin
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Post by darkprism on Feb 26, 2011 16:36:11 GMT -6
Considering my position would be external consideration, that's the good kind. Just like there are healthy fats and unhealthy fats. Internal consideration is like potato chips while external consideration is like eggs, nuts, and avocado... leading to Awakening!
Instead of struggling to see things as they are, which is impossible, attempt to see things from multiple perspectives at once. That is an infinitely more manageable aim. I appreciate you becoming an element of discussion, and in so doing, instruction. Gratitude, brother. is it me or does this make about as much sense as a mule trying to court a butterfly? isn't seeing things as they are, in effect the same thing as seeing it from multiple perspectives? a person might be inclined to look at things from multiple sides, but that will always be measured against self. all this business about internal/external consideration wreaks like the crap you'll take if your diet really was nothing but "eggs, nuts, and avocado". - just sayin You know what I'm sayin'. Just sayin'. Gurdjieff sucks, you know what I'm sayin'. You're all just a bunch of dumbass motherfuckers, you know what I'm sayin', following your Ipsissymiss and all that shit. See what I'm sayin'. Just thought I'd degenerate this thread in advance. Sorry about that.
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Post by herbert on Feb 26, 2011 18:12:38 GMT -6
is it me or does this make about as much sense as a mule trying to court a butterfly? isn't seeing things as they are, in effect the same thing as seeing it from multiple perspectives? a person might be inclined to look at things from multiple sides, but that will always be measured against self. all this business about internal/external consideration wreaks like the crap you'll take if your diet really was nothing but "eggs, nuts, and avocado". - just sayin You know what I'm sayin'. Just sayin'. Gurdjieff sucks, you know what I'm sayin'. You're all just a bunch of dumbass motherfuckers, you know what I'm sayin', following your Ipsissymiss and all that shit. See what I'm sayin'. Just thought I'd degenerate this thread in advance. Sorry about that. i don't know you all well enough to say anything like that. it just really doesn't make any sense. sorry guy, but i ain't trying to be a jerk.
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Post by symbolicone on Feb 26, 2011 18:22:39 GMT -6
i don't know you all well enough to say anything like that. it just really doesn't make any sense. sorry guy, but i ain't trying to be a jerk. Read more before you post. There is a wealth of information in the forums here, so spend some time reading before you make overly-uninformed posts. Awake!
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Post by ragnafa on Feb 27, 2011 0:46:26 GMT -6
It's amazing even after all these years following Master Satanis, there are these idiotic people who are on this forum who bad mouth a great philosopher, and proclaim that Master Satanis is a Dumb ass. I say to you, and you know who you are it's just jealousy. None of you have done anything in the Left hand path community like Venger As'Nas Satanis. So here's to all you simple minded fools. Suffer the wrath of the Old One's!
Awake.....
Izratan'Sharaz Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by herbert on Feb 27, 2011 1:23:05 GMT -6
It's amazing even after all these years following Master Satanis, there are these idiotic people who are on this forum who bad mouth a great philosopher, and proclaim that Master Satanis is a Dumb ass. I say to you, and you know who you are it's just jealousy. None of you have done anything in the Left hand path community like Venger. So here's to all you simple minded fools. Suffer the wrath of the Old One's.
Awake..... Izratan'Sharaz Wizard of the Terrible Darkness if you don't mind me askin ya fella, what exactly has he done?
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