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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 23, 2010 18:43:16 GMT -6
I was hoping to start a thread on President Barack Obama. Let me kick it off with tonight's blog post, "As Close to Perfect As We Can Get". Look for it here:
cthulhu-cult.com/
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Post by boksmutant on Dec 24, 2010 0:33:03 GMT -6
Barack is the beginning of a trend to show that no matter who is in charge of the great America, only the Illuminati will prevail. He's here to show that there is no one you can trust, & that we must take steps as individuals, to protect what ever belief's we hold dear. Personal accountability must be our goal if we are to succeed as a country.
As for good vs great? That was definitely a ballsy statement by the President lol.
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Dec 24, 2010 13:25:20 GMT -6
Barack is the beginning of a trend to show that no matter who is in charge of the great America, only the Illuminati will prevail. He's here to show that there is no one you can trust, & that we must take steps as individuals, to protect what ever belief's we hold dear. Personal accountability must be our goal if we are to succeed as a country. As for good vs great? That was definitely a ballsy statement by the President lol. Awake! You are so right on about the Illuminati prevailing. Presidents are only puppets being controlled. The don't actually have ANY power whatsoever. I've actually thought about joining the Illuminati just to cover my ass...lol. I'd rather be on the winning side than the losing side of sheeple. Awake! |
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Post by raygunnz171 on Dec 24, 2010 14:26:23 GMT -6
I know very little of the Illuminati but am aware of who they are but since this is about Obama Ill just say he is a good president. he is a very considerate man and thats what I like in a president.
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 24, 2010 15:34:36 GMT -6
How about we keep the Illuminati talk down to a bare minimum, ok? I'd rather deal with the here and now instead of discussion about probably imaginary (most definitely exaggerated) conspiracy theories.
Any thoughts on the dichotomy raised by my short essay?
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 27, 2010 0:16:25 GMT -6
Oscar Wilde had an interesting comment regarding conspiracy. He said, "Conspiracy is the most probable direction of the unimaginative" No offense intended people. Remember these are his words and not mine.
As for Barack? I will confess that I disagree with many of his policies, while I feel others are beneficial. And regardless of what anyone might say, he certainly defeats his predecessor. I'm still annoyed that we haven't gotten our troops out of those other countries however. I'll have you know that a couple of good friends of mine were stationed over there.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Jan 4, 2011 20:22:13 GMT -6
One thing about Obama is can't stand is the fact to get our ecomony back strong and vibrate we need to stop throwing baleout money at the problem,and bring the jobs BACK HOME.We are not a nation pr producers and exporters now,but a fracking nation of spenders and importers...hmm wonder why we are ont eh down hill slide look to the people in power.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 5, 2011 11:02:31 GMT -6
One thing about Obama is can't stand is the fact to get our ecomony back strong and vibrate we need to stop throwing baleout money at the problem,and bring the jobs BACK HOME.We are not a nation pr producers and exporters now,but a fracking nation of spenders and importers...hmm wonder why we are ont eh down hill slide look to the people in power.
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Jan 6, 2011 14:19:48 GMT -6
One thing about Obama is can't stand is the fact to get our ecomony back strong and vibrate we need to stop throwing baleout money at the problem,and bring the jobs BACK HOME.We are not a nation pr producers and exporters now,but a fracking nation of spenders and importers...hmm wonder why we are ont eh down hill slide look to the people in power.
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the sitmulus package that people blasted Bush on when Obama did it everyone cheered him for doing that and how it would keep the economy afloat,it takes more then spending to keep an economy going it takes producing and exporting as well. |
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Post by LostSoul on Jan 7, 2011 12:29:13 GMT -6
If I remember correctly; it was Bush's own party that lamb-blasted him for that...Some democrats(Like me); were actually shocked by such a non-tea party/republican move on his part...Actually, towards the end; GW was actually starting to work as a president...Sadly, with all the Middle East fiasco weighing him down; it was too little, too late.
And, 411...THERE IS NO ILLUMINATI!!! Business tycoons and government insiders are far, far too stupid to be running the world covertly forum mates.
If there was an "illuminati" ;D; it should be frakkin us!
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 7, 2011 13:40:22 GMT -6
Some bail-outs were already set in place by President Bush before he left office. Other bail-outs seemed like a necessary evil at the time. Unlike Bush, President Obama demanded some oversight; he didn't just hand out blank checks to corporations. Anyways, didn't the economy improve? We're out of the recession. Look around, things could be better, but they could also be a hell of a lot worse.
Indeed, there's no Illuminati. But it's more than a little fucked up that the top richest 2% of citizens in the U.S. own more wealth than the bottom 98% combined. What can we do about that? I see 3 immediate options...
1. Ignore the discrepancy and just keep on keeping on.
2. Try to acquire as much wealth as possible.
3. Figure out a way to live successfully and happily without loads of cash.
Maybe a combination? Options 2 and 3 necessitate applying ourselves in some fashion, not just being carried down the stream of life over the waterfall. Let me hear your thoughts, everyone!
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Post by tentaclednephilim on Jan 7, 2011 19:30:21 GMT -6
But it's more than a little fucked up that the top richest 2% of citizens in the U.S. own more wealth than the bottom 98% combined.
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Post by Ikaros on Jan 7, 2011 20:06:35 GMT -6
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 8, 2011 11:04:37 GMT -6
You guys linked to the same exact page, right?
I thought you were out of here, TN. Sure, I'm well aware that you (and perhaps Vanessa) have been lurking on our forum since taking leave of us, but this may be the first time you've posted since the whole "Decree of Heresy" thing. Why now? Just to show us a page of statistics without any point of view behind it? I don't even know if you're trying to support, criticize, or add a new dimension to what was quoted!
If you're going to be part of this forum, then be part of it. Those who continually lurk only to post something short and vacuous every couple months should re-think their situation. In times like these, I seriously consider extending the Slimy Green Sabbath rule beyond Sundays (central standard time).
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Jan 8, 2011 11:24:41 GMT -6
Some bail-outs were already set in place by President Bush before he left office. Other bail-outs seemed like a necessary evil at the time. Unlike Bush, President Obama demanded some oversight; he didn't just hand out blank checks to corporations. Anyways, didn't the economy improve? We're out of the recession. Look around, things could be better, but they could also be a hell of a lot worse.
Indeed, there's no Illuminati. But it's more than a little fucked up that the top richest 2% of citizens in the U.S. own more wealth than the bottom 98% combined. What can we do about that? I see 3 immediate options...
1. Ignore the discrepancy and just keep on keeping on.
2. Try to acquire as much wealth as possible.
3. Figure out a way to live successfully and happily without loads of cash.
Maybe a combination? Options 2 and 3 necessitate applying ourselves in some fashion, not just being carried down the stream of life over the waterfall. Let me hear your thoughts, everyone!
By His loathsome tentacles,
Venger As'Nas Satanis
Ipsissimus
Cult of Cthulhu
I'm for options 2 and 3:) Also bailouts are good for the moment but are not a permanent fix,espcially when you have nothing backing your currency which we haven't had since the 70's when Nixion took us of the Gold Standard. (Think Depression Era Germany when they had nothing backing their money,and things got so bad they printed so much money to deal with the problem their money had no value and people where using it to stay warm with.) And it sure doesn't help that we are importing more then we create or export..Things need to change . |
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Post by Ikaros on Jan 8, 2011 11:25:22 GMT -6
Oops. I didn't realize that tentaclednephilim had linked to a site. I thought it was just a color thing. Perhaps I need to pay closer attention. Honestly, if you google wealth distribution in America it is the first article. Sorry for the double citation. I was just making a point that the 2% figure wasn't that far off. The top 20% own 93% of the US financial wealth (as of 2007). That's a very top heavy distribution and is the point (as I understood it) of your comment, Lord Satanis. Apologies again. Belief is reality! Ikaros |
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Post by tentaclednephilim on Jan 8, 2011 19:30:36 GMT -6
Sure, I'm well aware that you (and perhaps Vanessa) have been lurking on our forum since taking leave of us, but this may be the first time you've posted since the whole "Decree of Heresy" thing. Why now?
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Cult of Cthulhu
I thought the one-liner spoke for itself; the top 1% of the population, in fact, owned only 36.7% of the wealth in 2007. The assertion that the top 1 or 2% own a vast majority is absurd. Our society is stratified, yes, but nowhere near the extreme commonly parroted but never reputably sourced. Even those studies attempting to demonstrate that wealth is hoarded or that social mobility is low show a more more fluid and equitable system than the progressive propaganda commonly suggests. Yes, the top 20% own over 80%, but that's 10 or 20 times as many people we're talking about, so I wouldn't call it "close" by a long shot. What's more, a majority of people in the upper quintile of wealth distribution will move to a lower quintile in their lifetimes. So it's not just a few fat cats sitting up there sucking all the wealth out of the rest of us poor souls; there's heavy turnover in the wealthiest bracket, which suggests (drumroll please) that this was earned and not inherited, a genuine case of people making their own fortunes with talent, tenacity, and effort (much as you have done, Lord Satanis). I have nothing against people being amply rewarded when it's genuinely earned, and I resent the implication that it isn't earned when it is. I also find it ironic coming from a self-made man. For the record, this is Vanessa. I apologize if my use of TN's account is in violation of any of the policies on this board. I only returned in order to look up previous conversations as they were pertinent to another discussion. Neither he nor I has been "lurking." I've only been back a couple times, and only to make sure my records were straight. In the process of looking something up, I happened across this thread and it irked me. As I'm sure you know, I'm passionate about capitalism. I mean no disrespect. I still admire you a great deal; it's the Cult I can't stand. To be honest, I think it's a waste to invest so much in people who are so beneath you. But hey, it's your decision. It was also your decision to kick out the best people that ever graced this group. I'm sure they'll do better without the dead weight of the plebs here hanging around their necks. I will refrain from posting with TN's account in the future. That is not dead which can eternal lie
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Post by lokidreaming on Jan 8, 2011 22:48:03 GMT -6
In times like these, I seriously consider extending the Slimy Green Sabbath rule beyond Sundays (central standard time). Master Satanis I second that motion. Belief Is Reality Loki Dreaming |
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 9, 2011 13:34:26 GMT -6
Sure, I'm well aware that you (and perhaps Vanessa) have been lurking on our forum since taking leave of us, but this may be the first time you've posted since the whole "Decree of Heresy" thing. Why now?
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I thought the one-liner spoke for itself; the top 1% of the population, in fact, owned only 36.7% of the wealth in 2007. The assertion that the top 1 or 2% own a vast majority is absurd. Our society is stratified, yes, but nowhere near the extreme commonly parroted but never reputably sourced. Even those studies attempting to demonstrate that wealth is hoarded or that social mobility is low show a more more fluid and equitable system than the progressive propaganda commonly suggests. Yes, the top 20% own over 80%, but that's 10 or 20 times as many people we're talking about, so I wouldn't call it "close" by a long shot. What's more, a majority of people in the upper quintile of wealth distribution will move to a lower quintile in their lifetimes. So it's not just a few fat cats sitting up there sucking all the wealth out of the rest of us poor souls; there's heavy turnover in the wealthiest bracket, which suggests (drumroll please) that this was earned and not inherited, a genuine case of people making their own fortunes with talent, tenacity, and effort (much as you have done, Lord Satanis). I have nothing against people being amply rewarded when it's genuinely earned, and I resent the implication that it isn't earned when it is. I also find it ironic coming from a self-made man. For the record, this is Vanessa. I apologize if my use of TN's account is in violation of any of the policies on this board. I only returned in order to look up previous conversations as they were pertinent to another discussion. Neither he nor I has been "lurking." I've only been back a couple times, and only to make sure my records were straight. In the process of looking something up, I happened across this thread and it irked me. As I'm sure you know, I'm passionate about capitalism. I mean no disrespect. I still admire you a great deal; it's the Cult I can't stand. To be honest, I think it's a waste to invest so much in people who are so beneath you. But hey, it's your decision. It was also your decision to kick out the best people that ever graced this group. I'm sure they'll do better without the dead weight of the plebs here hanging around their necks. I will refrain from posting with TN's account in the future. That is not dead which can eternal lie
and with strange aeons even death may dieVanessa(Ex?) Wizard of the Terrible Darkness
Regarding the economics, I was listening to Big Eddie on my local 92.1 "the mic" political talk radio station a couple weeks ago and I'm quite sure that he made that claim. I just assumed it was correct. Perhaps he said or meant the entire world, not just the U.S.? Or maybe that particular study you found isn't counting something or other. I won't know until I do more research (busy painting the upcoming baby's room today).
However, I did find this after about 5 minutes with google:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6211250.stm
My criticism is not with capitalism per se, but systems that encourage unregulated greed. Why should an individual be solely rewarded in our society for mass producing something which captures the plebeian imagination? Is Bill Gates a better human being than you or I or the next person? Is Warren Buffet closer to Godhood than anyone practicing the Left Hand Path? Has Donald Trump achieved objective consciousness?
Oh yeah and FYI, the definition of "lurking" on a forum is consistently hanging around reading posts while hardly ever contributing.
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Post by tentaclednephilim on Jan 14, 2011 4:10:04 GMT -6
OK, I'm breaking my resolution. When you decided to leave the CoC, you forfeited any title. Seems it would be a meaningless gesture to invite you back since you think so little of those who constitute this religion. [/b][/quote] I wouldn't accept if you offered, so I'm not offended. Anyway, you're an atheist. [/b][/quote] I'm not really sure why everyone (you, Zach, Venus) seems to have this impression, so perhaps you can explain to me what gave you this idea? I've stated repeatedly that I'm a process theist but somehow it seems to miss everyone. Is Bill Gates a better human being than you or I or the next person? Is Warren Buffet closer to Godhood than anyone practicing the Left Hand Path? Has Donald Trump achieved objective consciousness? [/b][/quote] In a word, yes. They've contributed a great deal more to humanity than any of us can claim. The very existence of this forum was made possible by Bill Gates. Even if you're using an Apple, PC's were a necessary precursor. Oh yeah and FYI, the definition of "lurking" on a forum is consistently hanging around reading posts while hardly ever contributing. [/b][/quote] The key word there is "consistently." Calling me a lurker is like calling the woman who has an occasional glass of wine once a fortnight an alcoholic. See you in hell |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2011 4:25:10 GMT -6
In a word, yes. They've contributed a great deal more to humanity than any of us can claim. The very existence of this forum was made possible by Bill Gates. Even if you're using an Apple, PC's were a necessary precursor. I disagree ! I consider Bill Gates as a criminal for all the time mankind loosed because of so poor products as windows, full of bugs. He managed to have a de facto monopole, significantly slowing the progress of mankind. He prevented better people to do better. Now is the moment of awakening ! |
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Post by tentaclednephilim on Jan 14, 2011 17:28:06 GMT -6
I consider Bill Gates as a criminal for all the time mankind loosed because of so poor products as windows, full of bugs. Complaining that Windows is full of bugs when it's the first program of its kind is silly. Obviously, the first marketable model isn't going to be perfect. The degree of advantage owning a computer has far outweighs the disadvantage of any errors. I should know; I've been a disgruntled PC user for years. While I'd love to own a Mac, in the meanwhile I'd much rather have a PC than nothing. He managed to have a de facto monopole, significantly slowing the progress of mankind. Haven't you ever heard of Apple, Linux, or Unix? Most people I know build their own computers or hire someone they know to build them for them... all without buying a scrap from Bill Gates. The assertion that he has a monopoly is nothing short of ludicrous. Nothing, and I mean nothing, prevents anyone from making a different type of computer. The only reason there are so few other computers is that it is WAY cheaper and more convenient to buy a PC and be done with it. Bill Gates's "monopoly" is the result of consumers' lazy complacency. Gates can hardly be blamed for other people being lazy. He prevented better people to do better. How? He didn't "prevent" anything or anyone. Like I said, no one's stopping people from making their own computers, and I know many people who do. |
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Jan 14, 2011 17:35:20 GMT -6
I consider Bill Gates as a criminal for all the time mankind loosed because of so poor products as windows, full of bugs. Complaining that Windows is full of bugs when it's the first program of its kind is silly. Obviously, the first marketable model isn't going to be perfect. The degree of advantage owning a computer has far outweighs the disadvantage of any errors. I should know; I've been a disgruntled PC user for years. While I'd love to own a Mac, in the meanwhile I'd much rather have a PC than nothing. Haven't you ever heard of Apple, Linux, or Unix? Most people I know build their own computers or hire someone they know to build them for them... all without buying a scrap from Bill Gates. The assertion that he has a monopoly is nothing short of ludicrous. Nothing, and I mean nothing, prevents anyone from making a different type of computer. The only reason there are so few other computers is that it is WAY cheaper and more convenient to buy a PC and be done with it. Bill Gates's "monopoly" is the result of consumers' lazy complacency. Gates can hardly be blamed for other people being lazy. He prevented better people to do better. How? He didn't "prevent" anything or anyone. Like I said, no one's stopping people from making their own computers, and I know many people who do. The only version that I had problems with was Windows ME Awake! |
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 16, 2011 17:26:49 GMT -6
Ok. Although, I don't care if you are offended.
I guess this made me think that you were an atheist.
The word contribution is subjective and not necessarily good or bad. Many things contribute to humanity. Some of those things are downright shitty. Some contributions are more or less independent from any particular contributor.
For example, Aids has made a great contribution to humanity. Do I commend those who originally spread the Aids virus? No.
If you want to see Bill Gates as a rolemodel or superior specimen of humanity, then go right ahead. We're on different books, let alone different pages, Vanessa. I don't expect you to understand.
If a forum user lurks nine times out of ten... that means reads posts nine visits while only posting something the tenth visit or less, then I feel justified in calling that person a lurker.
Lurking isn't necessarily bad, but I can't say it's a positive attribute. However, I'd probably rather have you lurking instead of posting frequently. You're a distraction from The Great Work.
I won't be seeing you at all. We're clearly on different paths. Those conscious individuals have an afterlife. The sleeping masses have nothing to look forward to... except having their energy recycled.
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Post by tentaclednephilim on Jan 16, 2011 18:04:23 GMT -6
This is either equivocation or misunderstanding, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it’s misunderstanding. Note that Beck described “religious nones,” or people who claim “none of the above” on a census requesting an individual’s religion, and labeled them all “atheists”. I would fall under the “religious nones” category, and thus I am an “atheist” as far as Beck is concerned. Christians often use the term “atheist” to mean “non-Christian.” Of course, you may be an "atheist" by Beck's standards as well.
EDIT: I disagree, I think contribution has an inherently positive connotation. AIDS did not make a "contribution" to humanity. It had an impact, certainly. But if I say I made a contribution to a local charity, I think we all understand that I benefited it in some way.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 26, 2011 10:47:30 GMT -6
Anyone watch President Obama address the nation last night?
I was at an open mic so didn't catch it; however, I heard a little bit of his speech on the radio this morning. From what I gather, Obama was articulate, diplomatic, and politically nimble as usual. I know that many would like him to open a can of serious ass-whup all over the Republicans and Tea Party, but that's probably never going to be the President's style.
Thoughts?
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Mar 26, 2011 21:00:20 GMT -6
I almost forgot to add something earlier! Barack Obama did save my credit with his debt forgiveness act. You see, I was forced to sell my house to get out from under the loan. The problem was, the real estate market had crashed and the house was now worth less than what I was paying for it, even after the improvements I had made. So even though I was "upside down" in selling the house, I was free and clear because of the debt forgiveness act...
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Post by lokidreaming on Mar 29, 2011 5:13:32 GMT -6
Obama inherited the Republicans mess and the successive American governments foreign policies which has spanned decades!!!
Obama got in way over his head!!!!
He thought he could come in and change things!!!!
He learnt pronto that American Geo Political interests out weigh his and his allies interests
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The American government has contingencies on the Geo Political Policies that goes back decades regardless which President or which political party goes out or comes into power!!!!
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Iraq was the soft spot to get a foot in the Middle East as certain organizations knew that Iraq did not have WMDs of a military to combat the might of certain groups and Iraq was the first domino in the first of a long line of dominoes to fall in the middle east!!!
What is happening in the Middle East right now proves my point and I don't believe a citizen in the Middle East is responsible for the domino effect, there is power play behind the scenes and a lot of wheeling and dealing!!!
And no I am not a conspiracy theorist, if one studies the history of the the Middle East you can see there is more that meets the eye.
Obama got way over his head and now a pawn in geo politics!!!
Belief Is Reality
Loki Dreaming
ps:- In the past you had kings and queens and their armies in todays societiy you have politicians and their armies; it is all the same due to today you can't just invade a country and conquer it due to it not being socially acceptable, so todays way of doing things is word games and smoke and mirrors!!!
pss:- One must think like a king/queen or a army general to understand todays geo political climate!!!
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Mar 29, 2011 19:03:45 GMT -6
I dunno Vanessa. I mean, one of my favorite industrial singers is Sascha Koneitzko. And while he's rich, he's also a professed communist! I find this ideological clash to be fascinating really. I was under the impression that only the lower classes had any logical reason to be communist you understand.
And as for Barack, there is one thing he did for me that I should add here. You see, I had to sell my house to get out from under the loan as I could no longer afford it after losing my job. Unemployment simply doesn't go as far you understand. The problem was, that the real estate market tanked. And so even after the improvements I had made on the house, it was only worth about two thirds of what I was paying for it. So under normal circumstances, I would've had to make up the difference after selling the house. But President Obama gave a debt forgiveness clause somewhere which basically meant I was free and clear after selling the place. Thank you President Obama!
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