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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 21, 2010 22:43:10 GMT -6
Well I've been studying this for a bit today. It appears to me that to self remember is merely to be awake in the present. Sounds very similar to zen philosophy if I may be so bold. In any case, I'd like other comments on this to help me understand these ideas.
But I'm attempting to self remember as we speak. It appears to me that I'm sitting cross legged on the bed, typing this message on my laptop. While I have a headache, I'm also focused on the actual typing of this message. I know I'm not supposed to, but I've always looked at the keys anyway. I still use home keys and the appropriate fingers to type with regardless, as I was taught to do so in high school. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I appear to be eagerly awaiting the end of Christmas as that means I will no longer have to pay lip service to my accursed family. I also dread the coming of the holiday as I know this means I will need to drive up there and see everyone. However, I also would like to know what everyone got me and I've already shopped for everyone anyway. So that part is finished, and that gives me some solace.
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 21, 2010 22:57:38 GMT -6
In retrospect, it might be closer to Taoism. And that's fine as I've already embraced some of that philosophy. You have no idea how wicked efficient I became when I worked as a chemist when I started using that philosophy. Truly, Eastern thought is worth looking into!
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Dec 22, 2010 1:33:15 GMT -6
There are more subtleties to it then just being awake in the present. Yes that is key but it goes further.
Its also about the analysis of one's behaviors and thought patterns. Self remembering could also be called self learning. realizing why you want something and that 'want's place within the rest of our self. there are many facets to the the 4th way. Some thing which was being discussed recently was octaves. which are basically about setting goals and the line between the time you decide to undertake something and the many detours one takes along the path to that goal.
Self remembering in my opinion doesn't do the actual practice justice. there is a lot more.
Awaken!!!
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 22, 2010 22:20:31 GMT -6
Further analysis of these techniques would suggest that you are indeed correct sir! I'm only starting to break ground on these proceedings and I should be diligent with my work no doubt. As Neitzsche himself has said, we are always in a state of becoming. Becoming precisely what has always been at the forefront of my thoughts and imagination.
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Feb 12, 2011 20:27:20 GMT -6
Its also about the analysis of one's behaviors and thought patterns. Self remembering could also be called self learning. realizing why you want something and that 'want's place within the rest of our self.
I think you have to be careful when you say that it's about analysis. While some analysis can be helpful, a lot of time that analysis can lead to judgment of yourself. Self-remembering has little to do with a judgment, and more to do with observation. "When I experienced 'X', then 'Y' happened." And that's really it. Dwelling on the analysis can hinder you from being present in the moment, and then it becomes counter-productive. It can also lead you into an internal conversation about chastising yourself for responding with 'Y'. This, too, is counter-productive. The Work is more about observing your reactions rather than analyzing them. Awake! Apsara Kamalli Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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