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Post by formallyknownasczhanjeem on Nov 21, 2010 19:28:02 GMT -6
I have just watched Jason kings review of liber A:O: witch lead me to other....shale we say disturbing videos of Master Satanis with his "dolls" and i found this disheartening because Jason was right. Master Satanis needs to be a more serious figure more of a symbol, and less of a man(mortal, average), he is a prophet and a leader and should act like it! The reason for my title is because Hitler made sure his followers depicted him as a symbol, as they would have depicted a statue, perfect, unchanging, inhuman in a way so that he would not be made a mockery of! to do this he would either stop the embarrassing activities or keep them secret so the people would still see him as a symbol. Master Satanis should do the same what he wants to do with his dolls or tentacles is his business and should only be his business it is rather difficult for me to convince people to join us or to convince people that this is a serious religion when our leader takes pictures and makes videos with dolls and tentacles. Please Master Satanis be our symbol! Hail Satanis!
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Post by raygunnz171 on Nov 21, 2010 21:16:26 GMT -6
I have just watched Jason kings review of liber A:O: witch lead me to other....shale we say disturbing videos of Master Satanis with his "dolls" and i found this disheartening because Jason was right. Master Satanis needs to be a more serious figure more of a symbol, and less of a man(mortal, average), he is a prophet and a leader and should act like it! The reason for my title is because Hitler made sure his followers depicted him as a symbol, as they would have depicted a statue, perfect, unchanging, inhuman in a way so that he would not be made a mockery of! to do this he would either stop the embarrassing activities or keep them secret so the people would still see him as a symbol. Master Satanis should do the same what he wants to do with his dolls or tentacles is his business and should only be his business it is rather difficult for me to convince people to join us or to convince people that this is a serious religion when our leader takes pictures and makes videos with dolls and tentacles. Please Master Satanis be our symbol! Hail Satanis! He is our High Priest so he serves not only as symbol but A LEADER. A leader can do more than a symbol and lord Satanis has proven that. Awake!
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Post by formallyknownasczhanjeem on Nov 22, 2010 5:55:57 GMT -6
I have just watched Jason kings review of liber A:O: witch lead me to other....shale we say disturbing videos of Master Satanis with his "dolls" and i found this disheartening because Jason was right. Master Satanis needs to be a more serious figure more of a symbol, and less of a man(mortal, average), he is a prophet and a leader and should act like it! The reason for my title is because Hitler made sure his followers depicted him as a symbol, as they would have depicted a statue, perfect, unchanging, inhuman in a way so that he would not be made a mockery of! to do this he would either stop the embarrassing activities or keep them secret so the people would still see him as a symbol. Master Satanis should do the same what he wants to do with his dolls or tentacles is his business and should only be his business it is rather difficult for me to convince people to join us or to convince people that this is a serious religion when our leader takes pictures and makes videos with dolls and tentacles. Please Master Satanis be our symbol! Hail Satanis! He is our High Priest so he serves not only as symbol but A LEADER. A leader can do more than a symbol and lord Satanis has proven that. Awake! But dose it not strike you as odd that a leader would take pictures with....dolls....would you vote for the presidential candidate with the blow up doll, i dont frown upon these actions simply believe he should keep them to himself. I have an unfathomable amount of respect and loyalty for our Matser but i don't believe he is creating the same kind of respect among the heretics or heathens. Brother perhaps i am wrong but watch Jason kings review of liber A:O: on you-tube. AWAKE!
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Post by Verins'Sharaz on Nov 22, 2010 7:12:55 GMT -6
Brother, I think you are more concerned with Lord Satanis' public image than he is. I think the point you may be missing is that Lord Satanis really has nothing to prove to anyone. I've found myself stating this at least once a day since I've come back & I've only been back for two days. The Cult of Cthulhu currently has over a thousand registered members on this forum alone, never mind how many others there might be who choose not to interact here. Lord Satanis' detractors can say what they want about him, but the numbers speak for themselves.
On top of that, if you look at the general population of Cultists, they are all active & doing things & not just honing their ritual daggers or practicing their Viridian. They are creating artwork, writing literature, testing the constraints of the reality prison through Fourth Way inspired techniques. They are educating themselves & putting that knowledge into practice.
There is a reason why people like Jason King can't open their mouth without spouting profanity & attempting to bring others down. It is because they are utterly miserable human beings that are unable to make any kind of worthwhile contribution to anything, so they act out their own personal frustration & misery on others as a means of gaining a measure of catharsis for themselves. In psychology, this is called "transference", & it is the psychological pandemic of machine society.
A "Hitler" is not needed in the CoC. There is already a High Priest who handles the job of guiding the destiny of the Cult more than adequately. As he's stated himself, he's not perfect; but he's perfect for the Cult of Cthulhu. Similar things were said about Anton LaVey & it did nothing more than send more people flocking to the CoS to see what all the noise was about. It would seem a similar phenomena has & is happening with the Cult. The more the "purists", occult scholars, & metaphysical snobs put Lord Satanis & the CoC down, the stronger & more numerous it becomes.
I don't really have a stake in all this, but as I've been reading your posts, C'zhan'jeem, it seems that you are disturbed by the fact that neither Lord Satanis nor the Cult fits into the image you've created for yourself in your head of how he & it should be. If that is the case, perhaps you should really examine your reasons for being here & if you find that your needs are not being satisfied, then perhaps you should seek your gnosis elsewhere.
There is nothing wrong with realizing that while something may be attractive to you aesthetically, it simply doesn't work for you practically, especially in occultism & spirituality. This is no disparagement on you or the path, it simply means that you & it are not meant for one another. I came to this realization myself & moved on to the path I currently walk & have never been more fulfilled. Self-examination is part of the Work, so before you begin analyzing & criticizing the actions of others, take the time to analyze & criticize your own perceptions of said actions. You may learn things about yourself you never realized that may bring you ever closer to being Awake.
My intent here is not to offend you, but to give you the opportunity to see yourself through another's eyes & really consider the choices you are making with regards to the Cult of Cthulhu.
Blessings!
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Nov 22, 2010 7:35:24 GMT -6
Brother, I think you are more concerned with Lord Satanis' public image than he is. I think the point you may be missing is that Lord Satanis really has nothing to prove to anyone. I've found myself stating this at least once a day since I've come back & I've only been back for two days. The Cult of Cthulhu currently has over a thousand registered members on this forum alone, never mind how many others there might be who choose not to interact here. Lord Satanis' detractors can say what they want about him, but the numbers speak for themselves. On top of that, if you look at the general population of Cultists, they are all active & doing things & not just honing their ritual daggers or practicing their Viridian. They are creating artwork, writing literature, testing the constraints of the reality prison through Fourth Way inspired techniques. They are educating themselves & putting that knowledge into practice. There is a reason why people like Jason King can't open their mouth without spouting profanity & attempting to bring others down. It is because they are utterly miserable human beings that are unable to make any kind of worthwhile contribution to anything, so they act out their own personal frustration & misery on others as a means of gaining a measure of catharsis for themselves. In psychology, this is called "transference", & it is the psychological pandemic of machine society. A "Hitler" is not needed in the CoC. There is already a High Priest who handles the job of guiding the destiny of the Cult more than adequately. As he's stated himself, he's not perfect; but he's perfect for the Cult of Cthulhu. Similar things were said about Anton LaVey & it did nothing more than send more people flocking to the CoS to see what all the noise was about. It would seem a similar phenomena has & is happening with the Cult. The more the "purists", occult scholars, & metaphysical snobs put Lord Satanis & the CoC down, the stronger & more numerous it becomes. I don't really have a stake in all this, but as I've been reading your posts, C'zhan'jeem, it seems that you are disturbed by the fact that neither Lord Satanis nor the Cult fits into the image you've created for yourself in your head of how he & it should be. If that is the case, perhaps you should really examine your reasons for being here & if you find that your needs are not being satisfied, then perhaps you should seek your gnosis elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with realizing that while something may be attractive to you aesthetically, it simply doesn't work for you practically, especially in occultism & spirituality. This is no disparagement on you or the path, it simply means that you & it are not meant for one another. I came to this realization myself & moved on to the path I currently walk & have never been more fulfilled. Self-examination is part of the Work, so before you begin analyzing & criticizing the actions of others, take the time to analyze & criticize your own perceptions of said actions. You may learn things about yourself you never realized that may bring you ever closer to being Awake. My intent here is not to offend you, but to give you the opportunity to see yourself through another's eyes & really consider the choices you are making with regards to the Cult of Cthulhu. Blessings! Bravo! Extremely well put! Awake!
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Post by I AM the Way on Nov 22, 2010 13:03:57 GMT -6
Point taken, Czhanjeem. If you look at my current youtube channel, TheIchor, I haven't done any more doll videos. Some liked them, others didn't. Some of what JK said was worth paying attention to; most, upon reflection, was not. In my opinion, dolls, puppets, and mannequins are creepy. Others have agreed with me. That's why I didn't think it too much of a distraction. I very much enjoyed what Ben Nixx 'Al-Aswad had to say as well.
I try to be conscious of my image while still being true to myself, at the end of the day. I try to have a sense of humor about things while remaining deadly serious when it comes to the Cthulhu Cult. Occasionally, that balance is not struck. I will be even more mindful of how I present myself from now on. Suggestions are also welcome.
Do cuddly Cthulhu plushies denigrate our mission or are they merely a populist extension of the greater Mythos?
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by formallyknownasczhanjeem on Nov 22, 2010 14:35:44 GMT -6
I don't really have a stake in all this, but as I've been reading your posts, C'zhan'jeem, it seems that you are disturbed by the fact that neither Lord Satanis nor the Cult fits into the image you've created for yourself in your head of how he & it should be. If that is the case, perhaps you should really examine your reasons for being here & if you find that your needs are not being satisfied, then perhaps you should seek your gnosis elsewhere. perhaps you are right, perhaps i have created this image in which everything is as i want it. Nothing before was as close to perfect as this cult, maybe this is why it is so hard to except the very minimal flaws. I take no offense and actual agree with you. This may not be my place, even though i thought it was, perhaps the Temple of Set or Church of Satan is where i belong thank you brother. My unpopularity in the forum is likely a sign that this is not my place, so once again my spiritual path drags on.....ia ia cthulhu fhtagn
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Post by I AM the Way on Nov 22, 2010 18:10:31 GMT -6
Don't count yourself out yet, brother. Give it some time. At this point, we don't fully know just how the CoC will evolve in 2011. Wouldn't you like to see what happens first hand? Patience is a virtue.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by formallyknownasczhanjeem on Nov 22, 2010 19:33:50 GMT -6
Don't count yourself out yet, brother. Give it some time. At this point, we don't fully know just how the CoC will evolve in 2011. Wouldn't you like to see what happens first hand? Patience is a virtue.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
I would like to see the Emerald Apocalypse if i could, but am I meant to? I have never been "at home" with any religion, It seems I'm just accepted longer. When my dreams lead me to you to the cult i thought that this is what i was created for the reason in the madness of my pitiful existence. If it is your will i will stay and see if I have found the "true" religion, or if i am to continue on with this saddened wandering. Awake.
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Post by Kyuubi on Nov 22, 2010 19:38:17 GMT -6
Belief is Reality.
Powerful words you may need to ponder upon, also your emotions look like they need a bit less thought. Change things, not making excuses.
I know the comment was directed at Lord Satanis and I am not trying to step on this toes.
Good Luck Brother.
The God we worship is our future selves!
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Post by formallyknownasczhanjeem on Nov 22, 2010 19:49:41 GMT -6
Belief is Reality. Powerful words you may need to ponder upon, also your emotions look like they need a bit less thought. Change things, not making excuses. I know the comment was directed at Lord Satanis and I am not trying to step on this toes. Good Luck Brother. The God we worship is our future selves! use the preview button and repeat what you said it was confusing, from what i made out yes i am not trying to make excuses and for my emotions well i've had a bad day and i have been writing poetry so I'm a little emotional right now.
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Post by Kyuubi on Nov 22, 2010 20:02:28 GMT -6
I did and I screwed up the quote. I had to modify it after to look like that.
Turn your emotions into power to gain what it is that you feel you are missing.
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Post by Audra Lightning on Nov 23, 2010 3:37:27 GMT -6
czhanjeen, I empathise w/ not feeling as though you have a spiritual home. Give it time. I eventually realized that I am my path. I am my own creature. And, if it turns out that the CoC isn't for you, just remember that you don't need to be part of a group to be you. It can get lonely not being part of a group, however, if that's what it takes to be true to yourself, I'd suggest you not be part of a group. Then again, you may find CoC or some other group is just where you belong, in which case, be part of said group and put your heart and soul into it.
I guess what I'm saying in a very long winded way is relax, take your time and be you.
As for pulling a Hitler... I really don't think that's the best route. But High Priest Venger will take whatever approach he choses.
Personally, I have no trouble with Jason King. His schick is to call people to task, and he does it in a trollish way. He's trying to make people either rise and shine or fall flat on their faces. At least that's how he looks from my end of the Internets, and I have no trouble with it.
Jason King: I know you are on this forum, so if I totally got somethign wrong here, by all means, let me know. It's not my intention to misrepresent you.
By the Bloody Toung of Nyarlathotep
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Post by formallyknownasczhanjeem on Nov 23, 2010 5:32:49 GMT -6
realize that when i say "Hitler" i use him not because i want Master Satanis to commit genoside or a master race, but for shock value and because he is the only person i know of who did this. I belive you may be ignoring my words simply because you dislike of hitler. Also i have alway thought jason king was a clown but was not aware of his respect ststus in the cult therefore was reluctant to shoot down his ideas. AWAKEN!
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Post by boksmutant on Nov 23, 2010 12:20:35 GMT -6
czhanjeem. You'll be very valuable to the Cult. Your a lot like me. Faith driven. I'll be quite the fanatic for the Cult one day. For now you must do as I do, watch for your moment. Wait & learn a bit more before you make your move.
You want Cthulhu to rise & straighten a bunch of shit out just like the rest of us. Its long over due. But you must gather more knowledge before that day. It'll take time for you to see where you will be of most use to Cthulhu.
As for Satanis doing crazy stuff. It makes me laugh to think that someone who has communed with the Ancient Ones isnt even crazier. For his own sanity I should think even more disturbing acts aren't necessary. I thank Cthulhu hes as able to lead us at all, let alone be an Icon or Social symbol for others to make sense of. But I think its that simple.
You must know the Cthulhu mythos & the works of H.P.Lovecraft to realize that the leader of the Cult Of Cthulhu should be absolutely insane & will probably do some extreme stuff. Hell, it might be disappointing if he didn't lol.
Remember the COC leader wont have all ores in the water. Or he'll have so many ores you wont even know what hes driving lol. Either way he wont appear normal:) Awake!
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