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Post by I AM the Way on Oct 12, 2010 15:27:57 GMT -6
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101012/ap_on_re_us/us_gays_in_militaryWhen a solitary judge does what congress cannot, that speaks volumes about the incompetency of our United States congress. Definitely a victory for homosexuals in specific and progressive/libertarian politics in general, which I wholeheartedly support.
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Post by tentaclednephilim on Oct 12, 2010 15:37:34 GMT -6
I bet opponents of what that judge did will complain about 'legislating from the bench'. That tends to happen as a measure of rhetoric from sore losers.
For example, when Prop. 8 was fresh, one of my brothers said he supported it because he thought that the judge, who ruled on the legality of gay marriage before Prop. 8, was legislating from the bench.
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 12, 2010 16:20:03 GMT -6
Totally.
The government should not get involved with our sexual preferences. It's all for our evolution.
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Post by ieuan on Oct 12, 2010 19:40:47 GMT -6
I have served alone side homosexuals in the military, and the cohesion and the morale of the unit was never affected by these individuals, as some politicians would have people think. The Secretary of Defense and Chief of Staff where right in my opinion, to get rid of the don't ask, don't tell policy. I retired early from the military, shortly after the first gulf war during the drawn down, the professionalism, moral ethics, and treatment of personnel is of the highest making, and unsurpassed by anyone. The military is light years ahead of civilian affairs and policies. Their equal opportunity policy is strictly followed and enforced, cudos to the Military and Sec. for trying to get Congress to do away with this policy.
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Post by xiaogui17 on Oct 13, 2010 14:24:30 GMT -6
I have served alone side homosexuals in the military, and the cohesion and the morale of the unit was never affected by these individuals, as some politicians would have people think. Awake! Ieuan Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu It's really fascinating to hear your perspective on the matter. I suppose all the talk about it changing the dynamic is empty conjecture from those without experience. Much like those whose teen daughters become pregnant will tout the efficacy of promoting abstinence until marriage. Remember yourself, for the Emerald Kingdom is at hand |
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 13, 2010 15:28:22 GMT -6
Its funny that government fears they ll find a platoon that got left alone to long, in 'drag' driving a pink tank.lol
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Post by tentaclednephilim on Oct 13, 2010 15:30:35 GMT -6
It seems like they underestimate the quality of training they give their troops.
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Oct 13, 2010 18:03:27 GMT -6
I honestly don't see the big issue with sexuality... though that may be because I myself am bisexual. I'm disgusted how much of an issue this is for some people, how uncomfortable it makes people, how ingrained it is into the social psyche of society that being homosexual, bisexual, and trans-gendered is wrong.
I do understand that much of this extends from the Abrahamic religions and their effect on the social evolution of man, but c'mon, it's a bit ridiculous at times. Who you love and feel sexual attraction toward has little to do with what sort of person you are... I firmly believe that.
Just because I am bisexual doesn't mean that I am unable to hold a monogamous relationship. In fact, I prefer a monogamous relationship with someone. Polygamy would just upset me as I am quite jealous in nature and desire a lot of love and affection.
Anyway, I'm wandering off topic... I'm glad to see some progress being made toward the "evil, perverted, LGBT agenda". You better watch it because we'll make your kids gay!
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Post by lucofthelight on Oct 14, 2010 4:55:44 GMT -6
I honestly don't see the big issue with sexuality... though that may be because I myself am bisexual. I'm disgusted how much of an issue this is for some people, how uncomfortable it makes people, how ingrained it is into the social psyche of society that being homosexual, bisexual, and trans-gendered is wrong. I do understand that much of this extends from the Abrahamic religions and their effect on the social evolution of man, but c'mon, it's a bit ridiculous at times. Who you love and feel sexual attraction toward has little to do with what sort of person you are... I firmly believe that. Just because I am bisexual doesn't mean that I am unable to hold a monogamous relationship. In fact, I prefer a monogamous relationship with someone. Polygamy would just upset me as I am quite jealous in nature and desire a lot of love and affection. Anyway, I'm wandering off topic... I'm glad to see some progress being made toward the "evil, perverted, LGBT agenda". You better watch it because we'll make your kids gay! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
The recent violence during the gay pride march in Belgrade, Serbia this week and in previous years serves to illustrate the fact that it is still an unacceptable practice in many countries. The majority protesting this march were holding up Orthodox Christian religious symbols as justification for their hostile point of view.
This world needs to be ushered into a new age, where intolerance of an individuals sexual preference through violence or verbal abuse would result in serious consequences.
I work with a Serbian refugee who is by all intents and purposes a genuine, sweet, kind person. When I asked him his views on the gay pride march, he said that the gay's are wrong, and they shouldn't do that. They should be beaten. With attitudes like this so deeply ingrained within the psyche of the religious majority it is no wonder the world is in such a mess.
Even though I consider myself straight sexually, I definitely have a great deal of compassion for gay people and bisexuality. This compassion and empathy goes well beyond sexuality and into the realm of individual rights. Attitudes so hostile to other peoples choice of sexuality and freedoms saddens me a great deal. The truth is that many of these gay and lesbian individuals are much more productive and respectful than those opposing them.
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Post by boksmutant on Oct 15, 2010 9:27:34 GMT -6
"HI, we re your loving christian neighbors from down the street, and we d like to invite you to our church up the street next Sunday".
"Well, me & my companion are gay you see, & we......"
"Thanks for your time"
My question is? Would this attitude(the church goer) indicate sociopathic behavior. What interests me, is how when faced with a subject that obviously enrages them; What is it that happens to there brain while keeping that smile on there face as they walk off.
The defense mechanism we humans have must be far superior to any other race in the galaxy:)
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Oct 27, 2010 20:24:01 GMT -6
I honestly don't see the big issue with sexuality... though that may be because I myself am bisexual. I'm disgusted how much of an issue this is for some people, how uncomfortable it makes people, how ingrained it is into the social psyche of society that being homosexual, bisexual, and trans-gendered is wrong. I do understand that much of this extends from the Abrahamic religions and their effect on the social evolution of man, but c'mon, it's a bit ridiculous at times. Who you love and feel sexual attraction toward has little to do with what sort of person you are... I firmly believe that. Just because I am bisexual doesn't mean that I am unable to hold a monogamous relationship. In fact, I prefer a monogamous relationship with someone. Polygamy would just upset me as I am quite jealous in nature and desire a lot of love and affection. Anyway, I'm wandering off topic... I'm glad to see some progress being made toward the "evil, perverted, LGBT agenda". You better watch it because we'll make your kids gay! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
The recent violence during the gay pride march in Belgrade, Serbia this week and in previous years serves to illustrate the fact that it is still an unacceptable practice in many countries. The majority protesting this march were holding up Orthodox Christian religious symbols as justification for their hostile point of view.
This world needs to be ushered into a new age, where intolerance of an individuals sexual preference through violence or verbal abuse would result in serious consequences.
I work with a Serbian refugee who is by all intents and purposes a genuine, sweet, kind person. When I asked him his views on the gay pride march, he said that the gay's are wrong, and they shouldn't do that. They should be beaten. With attitudes like this so deeply ingrained within the psyche of the religious majority it is no wonder the world is in such a mess.
Even though I consider myself straight sexually, I definitely have a great deal of compassion for gay people and bisexuality. This compassion and empathy goes well beyond sexuality and into the realm of individual rights. Attitudes so hostile to other peoples choice of sexuality and freedoms saddens me a great deal. The truth is that many of these gay and lesbian individuals are much more productive and respectful than those opposing them.
May the Old Ones wash away the rotting flesh from this earth!
Remember thyself, for the Emerald Kingdom is at hand!
K'ara Kaiul
Esoteric Wizard of the Terrible Darkness
Cult of CthulhuI honestly believe that intolerance and prejudice is a learned behavior. Whether it's instilled in children at a young age by the child's parents, mimicked through the actions of society, developed as a defensive reaction, etc. I really, truly honestly cannot grasp why difference is such a hot button for hatred. Is it because things different from us, different from our social "click" confuse and scare us? In fact, I'd love for someone to explain that to me... So I'd love to hear anyone's opinion on this... perhaps someone with a better understanding of sociology then I. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Dreaming Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu |
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Oct 27, 2010 21:55:08 GMT -6
I honestly believe that intolerance and prejudice is a learned behavior. Whether it's instilled in children at a young age by the child's parents, mimicked through the actions of society, developed as a defensive reaction, etc. I really, truly honestly cannot grasp why difference is such a hot button for hatred. Is it because things different from us, different from our social "click" confuse and scare us? In fact, I'd love for someone to explain that to me... So I'd love to hear anyone's opinion on this... perhaps someone with a better understanding of sociology then I.
Some, at a very early age, are curious about others that are different. They begin to seek out blindly the answers to undeveloped questions. Others from birth are naturally frightened by anything outside the normal routine and surroundings of their daily occurrences. You can begin to see these traits in children at such a young age that it would be hard to even suggest the reactions, or lack there of, are learned from their parents.
Many believe that most prejudices are learned. They are set upon us by our families and close loved ones, media influences (even down to the Saturday morning cartoons sometimes), and other environmental influences. They think that all infants are born with an open mind and then are corrupted by their parents. While this is partially true, it's missing the key component of individuality. If we wouldn't expect this to be true of adults, why would it be true of infants? Personality plays it's part in prejudice, and it shouldn't be overlooked regardless of the age of the person.
Some believe that prejudices are based off of a tribal instinct, to remain "true" to those like you. They marry people that look like them, interact with only those that are close in their tribe. And so on and so forth.
In my opinion, one of the leading causes in prejudices today is our need to acknowledge the victimized mentality of all the different variations. To continue to write or talk about racism, sexism, homophobia, and the ways disabled people and others are treated is counterproductive. In doing so, we only accent the differences between us and alienate the opposite groups. Why is it that my friend's employer celebrates Black History Month, Gay Pride Month, Mexican-American Month, Women in History Month, but does nothing to honor the heterosexual, white male?
Regardless of where the prejudice originates, we as cultists need to be aware enough to recognize our own prejudices and re-evaluate them. Are they a product of imagination? Is it necessary to continue with the line of thinking that this prejudice produces? Am I limiting my influences negatively because of them? Sometimes this can lead to an internal conflict. When you rationally apply logic to a prejudice you have, are you able to always come to the same conclusion? Do you choose to avoid the conflict to lessen the discomfort of the evaluation? Some prejudices are positive and necessary, but you must remain aware enough of your Self to know when a prejudice is valid or when it should be discarded.
We are the reality we create.
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 14, 2010 12:35:09 GMT -6
I honestly don't see the big issue with sexuality... though that may be because I myself am bisexual. I'm disgusted how much of an issue this is for some people, how uncomfortable it makes people, how ingrained it is into the social psyche of society that being homosexual, bisexual, and trans-gendered is wrong. I do understand that much of this extends from the Abrahamic religions and their effect on the social evolution of man, but c'mon, it's a bit ridiculous at times. Who you love and feel sexual attraction toward has little to do with what sort of person you are... I firmly believe that. Just because I am bisexual doesn't mean that I am unable to hold a monogamous relationship. In fact, I prefer a monogamous relationship with someone. Polygamy would just upset me as I am quite jealous in nature and desire a lot of love and affection. Anyway, I'm wandering off topic... I'm glad to see some progress being made toward the "evil, perverted, LGBT agenda". You better watch it because we'll make your kids gay! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu Here here! It annoys the crap out of me too sometimes. Like this one guy I met on Facebook actually felt he had to make sure that I was not gay before he'd be friends with me. Truth be told, I am bisexual too, but I told him that I just loved the cock simply because I cannot tolerate that kind of closed minded behavior. In any case, if I won't be completely satisfied until gay people are allowed to get married. I simply cannot understand why this is even an issue to some people. Let them pay their dues like everyone else dammit! |
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