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Post by andrewbloodworth on Sept 28, 2010 6:59:57 GMT -6
First i want to start off that i'm new to the fourth way. With that said i've always done self remembering most of my life, without knowing what i was doing. I've always looked at myself as if i was across the room.
Now that i know what its called what i doing, i'm really good at doing it. When you know what it is you're doing, it works more intensely. With that being said, and i haven't seen it else where as of yet. It might be in some of the books of the fourth way, but great tools are pictures of one self. Also a great tool is a video of one self. I've always done that which ,for one makes it easier to see yourself, and i found makes it more profound. P lus the image will last longer.
Seeing a picture of myself kicks start my self remembering into overdrive. I'lll love feedback on this, as i have still much to learn.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 28, 2010 13:59:51 GMT -6
First i want to start off that i'm new to the fourth way. With that said i've always done self remembering most of my life, without knowing what i was doing. I've always looked at myself as if i was across the room. Now that i know what its called what i doing, i'm really good at doing it. When you know what it is you're doing, it works more intensely. With that being said, and i haven't seen it else where as of yet. It might be in some of the books of the fourth way, but great tools are pictures of one self. Also a great tool is a video of one self. I've always done that which ,for one makes it easier to see yourself, and i found makes it more profound. P lus the image will last longer. Seeing a picture of myself kicks start my self remembering into overdrive. I'lll love feedback on this, as i have still much to learn. Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn We carry pictures of ourselves everywhere we go and look at them continually throughout the day. These are figurative pictures, self-impressions. Unfortunately, they are almost always wrong.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by andrewbloodworth on Sept 28, 2010 14:29:33 GMT -6
Master Satanis, thanks for reply. I had a feeling it had to be a great tool to start self remembering, but never occur to me that it could be wrong. In fact as of right now, i don't know the difference between the right and wrong way of self remembering.
I have to wait till pay day but i have the fourth way in my cart in amazon ready to go lol. I had no idea, i figured if you were seeing one self then it was all good. As i stated i do have alot to learn. Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 29, 2010 0:52:02 GMT -6
Master satanis, thanks for reply. I had a feeling it had to be a great tool to start self remembering, but never occur to me that it could be wrong. In fact as of right now, i don't know the difference between the right and wrong way of self remembering. I have to wait till pay day but i have the fourth way in my cart in amazon ready to go lol. I had no idea, i figured if you were seeing one self then it was all good. As i stated i do have alot to learn. Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn Self-remembering is different than carrying around and looking at pictures of ourselves (again, figurative photos). Self-remembering should put us in a position where we cannot see anything except our isolated self in the present moment.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by lucofthelight on Sept 29, 2010 5:19:52 GMT -6
Master satanis, thanks for reply. I had a feeling it had to be a great tool to start self remembering, but never occur to me that it could be wrong. In fact as of right now, i don't know the difference between the right and wrong way of self remembering. I have to wait till pay day but i have the fourth way in my cart in amazon ready to go lol. I had no idea, i figured if you were seeing one self then it was all good. As i stated i do have alot to learn. Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn Self-remembering is different than carrying around and looking at pictures of ourselves (again, figurative photos). Self-remembering should put us in a position where we cannot see anything except our isolated self in the present moment.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
Master Satanis, would you also see self remembering as a state of being separate from all you can experience in the present moment, thus being the observer and not merged with the observed?
If this is the case, self remembering would entail recognizing this separation from our experience and having a present moment of clarity to a greater or lesser degree unidentified with our experience and simply remembering that we are the observer in this present moment.
Would you agree that the trouble seems to be that it is all too easy to forget that this separation is actually there and become unknowingly identified with our surroundings, emotions and circumstances, thus forgetting ourselves and our true position of disentanglement?
Awake!
K'ara Kaiul Esoteric Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by andrewbloodworth on Sept 29, 2010 7:03:33 GMT -6
Master Satanis, whats the effects self-remembering has on our memory? Also i believe self remembering would improve our memory greatly, would that be correct ? Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn
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Post by andrewbloodworth on Sept 29, 2010 7:16:22 GMT -6
Master Satanis, also it seems to me that the times i do remember in my past are those times of self remembering. I remember being twelve and being at my sisters new house for the summer. Theres a point i remember being on her porch, and at that moment being aware of everything. I remembered thinking this moment will not last, it was so peaceful. I remembered i was in that moment, and that moment only.
I've always remembered that moment. Now learning about self remembering, i'm starting to remember things in my past that such moments have happened. Seems when i'm in a new place, or new surroundings, its easy to do self remembering. So i'm now wondering about memories and since we practice self remembering, are our memories better because of it?
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 29, 2010 12:04:56 GMT -6
In a state of self-remembering, you must be separate from yourself enough to observe what you are but whole enough to act since being present in the moment is an active force that must be willed. Appreciating truth which seems incompatible means you're on the right path.
Yes, self-remembering can aid one's memory. Self-remembering definitely creates change in the present moment. Additionally, changing the present can alter the past and future.
Awake!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2010 14:20:09 GMT -6
Yes, self-remembering can aid one's memory. Self-remembering definitely creates change in the present moment. Additionally, changing the present can alter the past and future.
Awake!
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Changing the present can alter the past ? Awake.
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Post by andrewbloodworth on Sept 29, 2010 15:09:55 GMT -6
If we can change the present, and that will change our past and future, thats powerful. We do hold great power within us to evolve into godlike beings. Self-remembering is life changing.
The fourth way is life changing, and the cult of cthulhu is life changing. Im learning stuff everyday, and never been this excited. I can only imagine what i'll be like in a year.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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Post by andrewbloodworth on Sept 29, 2010 15:17:58 GMT -6
I think Master Satanis meant that when we self-remember in the present , that present soon becomes our past. Therefor we have altered our past by using self rememebering. It would be different if we didn't self remembered, and by doing self remembering things will be affected in our future. Maybe i'm wrong tho.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 29, 2010 17:16:37 GMT -6
Yes, self-remembering can aid one's memory. Self-remembering definitely creates change in the present moment. Additionally, changing the present can alter the past and future.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
Changing the present can alter the past ? Awake. That is correct. Yes, that, but there is more... it is entirely possible to alter the direction, meaning, and substance of the past and future by consciously changing the present. How's that for power? Various Fourth Way Masters have confirmed this. If you can, try to work out just how or why this can be.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by andrewbloodworth on Sept 29, 2010 18:07:29 GMT -6
Master Satanis, wow that is power. Thats the profound thing i've read in a while. If we can change the past and future with working within the present, we can achive anything we desire. I feel myself changing and i can't wait to see where i am in a year. This has been truely amazing and i got so much to learn.
I'm eager to find how far i can go. If one works hard enough, then the sky is the limit. On second thought, go beyond any limit.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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Post by lucofthelight on Sept 30, 2010 5:39:29 GMT -6
"In a state of self-remembering, you must be separate from yourself enough to observe what you are but whole enough to act since being present in the moment is an active force that must be willed."
Thanks for you reply Master Satanis. If I could just ask a question to clarify something I'm not fully understanding. When you say you must be separate from yourself enough to observe what you are do you mean separate from the combined total of the centers and do you mean for this to occur you would have to divide attention between the centers and remembering that you are observing them(the observer)?
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
K'ara Kaiul Esoteric Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by lucofthelight on Oct 1, 2010 2:54:04 GMT -6
Master Satanis, wow that is power. Thats the profound thing i've read in a while. If we can change the past and future with working within the present, we can achive anything we desire. I feel myself changing and i can't wait to see where i am in a year. This has been truely amazing and i got so much to learn. I'm eager to find how far i can go. If one works hard enough, then the sky is the limit. On second thought, go beyond any limit. Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn Welcome brother,
I am looking forward to seeing you progress within the Fourth Way system and the CoC over the next year that you spoke of. Hopefully we can share some dialogue relating to the Fourth Way ideas in the future. I can say that it has helped change how I perceive just about everything in just 10 months and I'm only touching the tip of the iceberg.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
K'ara Kaiul Esoteric Wizard of the Terrible Darkness Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by andrewbloodworth on Oct 1, 2010 4:41:46 GMT -6
Thanks K'ara Kaiul for the welcome. I look forward to such dialogue in the future. I can learn so much from your posts and other alike. I look forward to what the future holds. Thanks again. Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
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