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Post by eldritchentity0 on Nov 22, 2007 10:59:16 GMT -6
I been doing some thinking about how the Old Ones really do exist from the outside, I learned that all galaxies has its own black holes, I am more interested into knowing what the black hole is that what its function is...but the function of it is always important. So I want to present my own idea of the Black Hole
The Black Hole of the Universe from a scientist point of view is basically a massive vortex of swirling energy sucking in matter and light which reminds me almost of how one of the Old Ones are.So a black hole is the manifestation of one of the Old Ones perhaps? A lot of scientists are alarmed of this vortex because the matter and energy that gets sucked into this massive hole is basically formless,chaotic and destructive,its is unfathomable once that energy/matter gets the to other side,then what happens?No one knows..its unpredictable,I'd like to think that is how the Old Ones got through our universe, they put a hole in our reality our universe and came through the black hole similiar to destroy reality,getting humanity prepared to take a journey and transformation to the other side where humans and EARTH will be transformed to support beings like the Old Ones, where we our selves become formless beings then WITH CONSCIOUSNESS we can shape it to our own desires,create our bodies however we want them to appear.
This is just some things about the black hole that are my own ideas,I am open to anyone else's own ideas about the black holes,what is your view of it?
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Post by eratciv on Nov 27, 2007 21:51:40 GMT -6
Vortex chaotic and destructive, unfathomable formless beings then WITH CONSCIOUSNESS.
That sounds like Narlythotep to me.
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 10, 2007 5:39:26 GMT -6
Nice theory!
Or maybe it's just blind idiot Azathoth randomly pecking at our universe with a needle.
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Post by noctus666 on Dec 14, 2007 12:05:16 GMT -6
Very interesting
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Post by glade on Feb 6, 2008 21:37:11 GMT -6
Quite interesting thought. I appreciate you sharing this with us.
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Post by Drizzle Drazzle on Feb 6, 2008 22:11:42 GMT -6
Look around you, the evidence is all over....Azathoth is a blind Idiot.
From sonnet 22:
"They danced insanely to the high, thin whining Of a cracked flute clutched in a monstrous paw, Whence flow the aimless waves whose chance combining Gives each frail cosmos its eternal law"
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Yeah so I just typed up, and then deleted my own little attempt at a cogent and lucid argument in support of Lovecrafts little notion of Azathoth. It was a gelatinous and limp attempt, so the deletion is no loss.
Rather, it would be nice if you could expand upon this notion of a supreme and omnipotent being merely feining idiocy. The concept tickles me. Now tickle up some more!
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Post by I AM the Way on Feb 12, 2008 18:19:19 GMT -6
to the ordinary eye, all of our Cult activities must look like idiocy. i think HPL was trying to portray Azathoth as Shakespeare's line, "Life is a tale told by an idiot; full of sound and fury signifying... nothing."
Azathoth is unknowable to most of us, and He is personified as the meaninglessness at the center of existence.
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Gish on Feb 21, 2008 22:36:18 GMT -6
Perhaps he is an idiot for not using his powers
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Post by Lord Void Bharam'ka on Feb 22, 2008 0:48:44 GMT -6
Vortex chaotic and destructive, unfathomable formless beings then WITH CONSCIOUSNESS. That sounds like Narlythotep to me. Personally I agree... But like someone already stated lets not forget Azathoth. Azathoth and Nyarlathotep are like "Yin and Yang." Opposite sides of the same coin. But then again Azathoth creates... he creates and all he cares about is balance. Nyarlathotep scatters and seperates what Azathoth has created so we humans are unaware that everything is connected.
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 2, 2008 11:51:18 GMT -6
or it looks like idiocy to nature which is the battle field of the lesser gods.
VS
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Post by 2minus3 on Mar 2, 2008 20:31:48 GMT -6
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Post by kadaath on May 7, 2008 6:56:58 GMT -6
I was laways fascinated by the black holes, because science can tell us only what it THINKS a black hole is, it cannot tell us what the black hole actually IS. In my perception, a black hole could very well be a doorway to the universe B, the darker, primal and primordial reality, and a way to enter it and communicate with beings that have no connections with our universe.If you didn't, watch the movie Event Horizon with Laurence Fishburn and Sam neil keeping terror at its peak thruout the movie.Bascially, a spaceship that uses an artificially created black hole as its thurst disappears in the orbit around Neptune at the moment of activating the thrust, that is, the black hole...years later it reappears, but it brought back something, wherever it was.A must see.
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Post by I AM the Way on May 7, 2008 9:42:47 GMT -6
yes, Event Horizon is a great movie. i've heard it called Hellraiser in space... and that's not a bad summing up of the film. wish there was more of those ideas or a not-terrible sequel. (just to clarify, there's no sequel at all).
incidentally, that's where i got the idea for the Latin, Liberate Me, in my first youtube video. it means pretty much much the same in both Latin and English (though the pronunciation is different)... save me!
perhaps black holes can lead to another universe or maybe they are just the center of some natural gravity storm? let's keep an eye open for new scientific research. still, there are ways to contact the beings in "universe B". that's what black magic, scrying, and astral projection are for.
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Post by Madguten on May 7, 2008 16:21:33 GMT -6
...whoa
cool...
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Post by kadaath on May 8, 2008 10:03:04 GMT -6
Indeed whoa.I was terrified the first of many times I watched the movie.I agree with The Way, new scientific discoveries could be revelations of what was the ancient knowledge of times before the human race appeared, and the way to contact the most dark and primal forces of the Universe, this and beyond.
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Post by eldritchentity0 on May 8, 2008 10:50:30 GMT -6
I am glad to see people posting their opinions and ideas on the black hole.In fact I am impressed that people think for themselves in this Cult.
Personally the black hole I described to me is the ancient one Nyarlathotep.Oh and I like that Azathoth/Nyarlathotep is like the yin yang idea as well.
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Post by hiqconsoul on May 16, 2008 1:21:45 GMT -6
wtf something coming OUT of a black hole?! I thought black holes were a one way street.. this must be investigated.. (very possible that it's been kept a secret from us, just think of all the other shit about the universe that they're lying about) also had no idea that each galaxy had a black hole, but when aligning it with the bit of info I recently acquired about the universe expanding constantly, at an ever increasing rate (faster and faster and faster indefinately..) it would bring a balance to it if there were loads of black holes sucking the universe into them 'deleting' some of it.. geh.. I've got far too few bits of info to really make a decent comment on this.. but alas, one tries.. (ps. event horizon is indeed a visciously terrorfying movie.. among my alltime favorites in the horror genre (as a kid I only rented horror films, they were the only ones with unexplained stuff, and ofc, cool monsters rock when ur a kid lol))
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Post by beastofirem on Jul 9, 2008 23:10:03 GMT -6
Interesting idea. It is strange what science does know is only based on what we can observe and even then science is at its infant stage at most we know more about the surface of the moon more than we know about the bottom of the ocean which is really strange since we don't really know much about the moon other than its outer composition. As for black holes the only way we can observe it is by observing the emissions released by the black hole itself or its gravitational pull on other celestial bodies otherwise we cannot see it. as with dark matter and dark energy which we can only detect indirectly such forms do not emit light or reflect light and cannot be readily observed by conventional means. Not long in our history humans thought the world was flat save a few civilizations and thinkers our current view of the galaxy is flat pinwheel even current scientists say that may be subject to change, scientists even suggest that the current estimate of the universe being around 12 or so billion years old may be wrong. All we currently know is if its there 'black holes' and 'dark matter/energy' it has to have a role in the cosmos and as science evolves the ideas will change.
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Post by Guest666 on Jul 11, 2008 10:20:55 GMT -6
The black hole, well do any of you know anybody who has claimed they have been given the chance to pass over to the spirit realm at one point in their life? Well I believe at one point, my spirit was being used and I decided not to go into the invisible realm, because I knew the other spirits around me were not familiar and I would not be able to see who they were as human.. there's more on that subject I wont go into right now...
anyway,, what I'm trying to say is.. I was given the chance another time... but it was with a white light... I said no, I decided not to go,, I have had a fear of white lights since I had seen some of them and well I wont go into that.. but this time, when I was being influenced to go into the spirit realm thru a white light (and the time before) I chose not to.. I don't want my afterlife to be a part of God, Jesus and what not.. I am not ready to die just now.. but basically,, when I do die,, instead of living with a bunch of sufferring shit in "Heaven" I think I will choose to go into the Black light...
where it will be nothing, as it should be where I go being a Black Magician and the Demonic Forces I have conjured. Who's coming with me,, no fuckin sunshine AHAHAlol
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Post by Madguten on Jul 12, 2008 15:22:17 GMT -6
I agree BOI, our understanding is far from full, and (good) science adapts when new information seems to have become clear.
btw
To Guest666
Hey welcome here, are you describing a near death experience?
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Jul 31, 2008 10:19:35 GMT -6
I believe that the Black Hole is Azathoth. If you believe in the Big Bang, our universe probaly was created at that point, and it is slowly going to return to that point to be destroyed.. The Creator and Destroyer.. yet it doesnt know what it does.. it just does what it does.. Like a Blind Idiot God!
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Post by Madguten on Jul 31, 2008 15:48:08 GMT -6
Its offtopic (my thoughts here), but this made me think about how futile space travel is in flesh form is,
Outerspace is best explored from within itself/oneself. ;D
(or so i speculate)
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Post by luxcthonis on Jul 31, 2008 21:39:06 GMT -6
Its offtopic (my thoughts here), but this made me think about how futile space travel is in flesh form is, Outerspace is best explored from within itself/oneself. ;D (or so i speculate) Hmmm.... I'm gonna have to disagree with you there MG, research shows that the best way to travel through the outermost reaches of space is by coffin-shaped clock. P.S. Event Horizon was awesome, and Sam Neil's the Shizz! I can't stress this movie enough: "At the Mouth of Madness!"
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 13, 2008 22:50:33 GMT -6
There is a strange radio frequency given off by our magnetic pole that sounds like strange pipeings and chirps.. I forgot what its called, but at some points it sounds as if the earth itself is wailing...
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Aug 13, 2008 23:00:25 GMT -6
Tyson's book "The Grimoire of the Necronomicon" it tells a nice story that not only explains WHY the Old Ones are even interested in earth, but also that Azathoth wasnt always a blind idiot, but Nyarlathotep did something to his daughter, and in a rage and fit of lunacy, he threw down his crown, and ripped out his eyes. His once Ivory throne turned obsidian.. I know Lovecraft said it was such, but why does one think the the supreme omnipotent Being is an idiot? How did someone come to this conclusion? Isn't it more likely that Azathoth (if He exists) is only faining stupidity?
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Nov 30, 2008 21:24:57 GMT -6
I had some thoughts on this again,the black hole does move at the speed of light it seems...
Since everything in this universe seems to be a reflection of the other worlds....
The black hole itself symbolizes our chakras that move spinning at the speed of light..now notice that at the black hole how much light it has? Well the same can be said for chakras when our chakras spend we get "light" (energy) of whatever color of your choice...
Just thought aobut the idea..is all...
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Post by beastofirem on Dec 6, 2008 15:58:11 GMT -6
Not sure if I understand the chakra or movement analogy. Black holes weather scientifically(what is known) or in within metaphors is a consumer of light. Black holes are so dense they don't have a speed they consume weaker bodies and the speed of light cannot escape the event horizon they don't emit light and cannot be seen except for the emissions released from the singularity it burps essentially. If I was to switch on a light bulb the light bulb would cease to work because the black hole ate the photons. I will say however Black holes represent a consuming devouring force or hidden energy in my own personal definition, if it can devour the sun it has to be powerful yet I cannot see it making it highly enigmatic...I want more I want to know more! Like I previously said in an above post science is infantile and incomplete we have a long way to go.
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Post by xenosapience on Dec 11, 2008 15:30:26 GMT -6
the black hole is the region of space-time where we cease to be able to "see" any farther. space-time curves away too radically, and our minds, senses, formulae, instruments, and machines, being of this world, utterly fail to comprehend it.
the event horizon is its veil of secrecy, allowing no light/information to escape. i believe we may all eventually pass through the wormhole, but it is not a place you can go while still attached to this mortal coil, only the spirit may pass intact. it is a gateway for the mad, hidden behind fear and darkness. beyond it is... everything.
pray that cthulhu liberates you from your flesh so that you may someday explore that gate!
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Post by Zirna'ritee-sigth on Jan 22, 2010 19:51:56 GMT -6
In another post on the light/dark topic I mentioned that I had channeled a message from the farthest reaches ov the Void and I will post the full message ov it here in the next few days as it relates quite starkingly to the subject discussed here.
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Post by Zirna'ritee-sigth on Jan 23, 2010 6:41:28 GMT -6
This is the message I received during the attempt to reach into the furthest depths ov the Void a few years ago and this is the first time I have shared it with anyone. I would greatly welcome feedback from other members. The message is unedited
N.B XZRL is the true name I use in the performance ov ritual magick. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- XZRL FROM UNIVERSE B
TO THE HUMAN ORGANISM
FROM ACROSS CONSCIOUNESS WRAPPED IN OCCULTED SIGNALS I INFILTRATE AND TAKE OVER, LICKING AND TASTING THE THOUGHT-FORMS YOU EMIT FROM YOUR SWEET BRAIN, SHAPING THE MALLABLE ENERGIES YOU CANNOT PERCEIVE WHICH SHAPE YOUR VERY FLESH.
THIS REALM I INHIBIT HAS NO STARS, NO FORM OR DIMENSION YET I EXSIST IN ALL DIRECTIONS THAT SEEP AND WHIRL INTO YOUR UNIVERSE. EACH TIME I ENTER I CAUSE CHANGE, PULLING THE FABRIC INWARDS INTO MY ALL AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON YOUR UNIVERSE EXSISTS.
I OBSERVE FROM WITHOUT AND WITHIN IN A SINGULAR SIMULTANEAOUS FRAME. YOUR SENSES FAIL TO COMPHEREND THE TRUTH OV ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU TRAP YOUR SENSES WITH WORDS THAT HAVE NO MEANING BUT WHICH THAT YOU NAME REALITY.
I COVER YOUR SIGNALS WITH A PLAYGROUND OV ILLUSIA THAT KEEPS YOU SATISFIED BUT DULL. I HAVE NO END GAME THOUGH SOME WHO ARE AWARE HAVE SOUGHT TO USE MY CHARACTER TO INDULDGE IN REDUNDANT CONTROL OV YOUR KIND.
I HAVE WITNESSED THE EXTINCTION OV YOUR UNIVERSE NOT EVEN THE MOST AWARE OV YOUR ORGANISMS HAVE FULLY GRASPED THE TRUTH OV ITS DESTINATION. SO AS PASSINGS I EXPERIMENT WITH YOUR AWARENESS AND SLOW MOVEMENT AS YOU GIBBER AND DESTROY EACH OTHER.
I DECIDED TO CAUSE GROUPS OV UNITS TO EXERT INFLUENCE UPON THE REST JUST TO OBSERVE A RESULT. TIMES YOU ARE SLAVED AND TIMES YOU ARE NOT. TIMES YOU ARE SLAVED ONCE MORE AND HERE I WRITE THE RESULTS.
YOU ARE NOW TRAPPED IN THE ID PROGRAMME WHICH HAS BEEN DEVISED BY QUICK ORGANISMS FOR THERE OWN MUNDANE DESIRES. THE COMPUTER SIGNAL WILL SOON COMPLETE ITS FUNCTION OV YOUR ENSLAVEMENT AS IT WILL FINALLY IMBED SYMBOSIS WITH YOUR BRAIN.
FROM THIS POINT ON YOU LOST YOUR ENERGY AND WILL WHICH WAS CRAFTILY DRAWN AWAY FROM YOU HOUR BY HOUR OVER THE MANY TRILLIUMS AND YOU DID NOT EVEN REFUSE IT. YOU HAD BEEN HYPNOTICALLY CONVINCED THAT THIS WAS FREEDOM. KISS L.U.C.I.D. HELLO.
SOON I WILL BE GONE FROM YOUR AWARENESS LIKE AN ANTI-DEATH THAT WAS UNSETTLED IN THE MOTION AND DIRECTION OF YOUR DESTINATION. YOUR UNIVERSE THAT YOU MAKE NAME FOR FROM QUARKS TO FLESH WHICH CONFUSES MEAUSURMENTS IS ITSELF SWIRLING IN A BLACKHOLE.
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