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Post by Deadly Disease on Sept 21, 2009 10:20:18 GMT -6
Hiya everyone I recall reading on this forum that the Lesser Gods created this universe, as well as the ancient ones. Who are the lesser Gods then? Who do you refer to as the Lesser Gods? Are you refering to the Christian God? If so, then I am puzzled why 'Gods' is included as opposed to God. Also, I also recall Venger AsNas Satanis mentioning that as a means for fighting against the lesser gods that are inherent of this universe, the cultist should do several things. 1) Remember himself that he is asleep so as to induce awakening 2) Practice black magick to disturb the forces of the Elder Gods. This happens for two reasons: 1) By killing other human beings via black magick, the lesser Gods are hurt by this (because one of their children has died at the hands of a mage) but also the very fact that a Satanist practices black magick hurts the Lesser Gods even if he doesnt attempt and succeed to kill a person because black magick is what they are vehemently opposed to. This is why you are hurting the Lesser Gods by practicing black magick. And to further this philosophy, the Lesser Gods cannot do anything about this by restraining us because they gave us free will. How enticing for a Satanist! 3) Create dark art that will impact on the universe in a dark eldtrich fashion. I can't find the post where Venger AsNas Satanis stated this but I believe i effectively portrayed the meaning of what he was trying to say, even though i probably didn't express it as eloquently as he did Thanks for taking the time to reply, -Al.
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Post by sin on Sept 21, 2009 14:29:04 GMT -6
1. The Lesser gods, a sub-group of the 'Outer Gods' are more powerful than the Great Old Ones. In fact, they are ruled by Azathoth the Daemon Sultan. (Source: Cthulhu Encyclopedia by Daniel Harms)
2. The Lesser gods, are the gods that sent the Great Old Ones into dimensional space. They learned the gifts of the Great Old Ones and used it against them.
3. It depends on the mythos 'Scholar, some do not make the distinction between the Lesser gods (Outer Gods) and the Great Old Ones. I myself don't feel a need, as they are sub-identities of the Great Old Ones. Sort of like how man creates the gods, then serves them - so by proxy man is serving himself.
4. I don't believe in the good vs. evil axiom, inserted into the mythos. It's irrelevant, and doesn't serve man. All it does is attempt to separate man from evil, when man is both good and evil by it's very nature.
5. Free Will is a myth, useless and has no place in the mythos (in philosophical terms) - all is needed is conscious will, my opinion.
6. Willful suffering, feeds the universe and in-turn the Old Ones (our unconscious selves). If we feed it enough, with conscious labor - will awaken them - awaken us.
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 22, 2009 9:07:37 GMT -6
i don't know who created our universe, but i believe the lesser gods of the earth have dominion over it now. the energy that is created from suffering feeds the lesser gods and the universe. our world and everything in it is programed to create suffering.
the Cultist is apart from all that. he doesn't allow the universe to affect him, but is self-validated. however, intentional suffering opens our consciousness up to other influences... the Great Old Ones.
killing human beings with black magic isn't necessary, but there will be people trying to stop you from Awakening. there is a certain satisfaction and build-up of energy that comes from destroying a target; use dark rituals rather than any physical hostility. manifest thy will...
VS
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Post by ahariman6 on Feb 1, 2010 14:02:28 GMT -6
I heard that in order to awaken, this is usually the first step, you have to acknowledge that you are not alien to this universe, you are a part of it, therefore you should connect to it and harness it's energies. Then there's the whole bit about receiving guidance and help from the Old Ones, they are like spiritual father/mother figures to you, and you should honor them as your teachers and, this may sound a tad goody goody, as friends. Oh and the most important thing to do is to see the importance in the physical and spiritual, you have to balance the two out! Yoga is the way to go in this case so use it to your advantage, it's multi tasking!
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Post by zombie on Mar 29, 2010 4:53:31 GMT -6
If you research tthe actual Sumarian religion you will find that the Old Ones, and The Elder Ones have always existed along side Wiccan's pentacle 3. Two sides of the same coin. The Lesser Gods came to this plane of existence and are tending to various areas and waiting for the stars, but are actualy "sub products if you will of the host God.
But one must also take into account the fact that the ancient religius texts could have, and most likly have been mistraslated at several juncures. So who is to say realy? haha either way beliefs solid.
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Mar 29, 2010 9:28:55 GMT -6
If you research tthe actual Sumarian religion you will find that the Old Ones, and The Elder Ones have always existed along side Wiccan's pentacle 3. Two sides of the same coin. The Lesser Gods came to this plane of existence and are tending to various areas and waiting for the stars, but are actualy "sub products if you will of the host God. But one must also take into account the fact that the ancient religius texts could have, and most likly have been mistraslated at several juncures. So who is to say realy? haha either way beliefs solid. You might be interested in "The Fall of Christianity" article on this site... warlockasylum.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/the-asura-society-a-new-chapter-in-the-necronomicon-tradition/When the Stars are right!
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 29, 2010 10:58:03 GMT -6
Yes, he seems like a creditable source...
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Mar 29, 2010 20:26:57 GMT -6
Yes, he seems like a creditable source...
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
A lot of info on his site..it'll take me a while to read all the articles there. Awake
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Post by zombie on Mar 29, 2010 20:30:31 GMT -6
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Mar 30, 2010 2:10:57 GMT -6
[/quote] Yes! That's the one! It is so fascinating! Awake!
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Post by darkdescent13 on May 28, 2010 0:08:07 GMT -6
I've bookmarked that page. Seems like it's got a lot of fascinating articles there!
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