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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 13:27:03 GMT -6
Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of the Law and Do What Thou Wilt As Long As It Corresponds To Thy Will! Cthulhu Cultists, Priests of R'lyeh, and High Priest Venger As'Nas Satanis!!! Recently Venger Satanis and I have had a few distinctive chats, well actually more like me pouring out my views on a few issues. Yes, as he as suggested they were a bit a hostile but not in the sense of attacking him, only stressing my views. I was not attempting to break any kind of relationship off with Him nor the Cult of Cthulhu but for short time now I have seen a "break-out" with the Cthulhu Cult coming! He suggested that I post a specific part of my last letter to him about my views on here which I agreed to. I will post it not this small amount that he suggested (though I will point out what part it is for clarity) but the whole letter! I have no scruple in reviewing my beliefs with you or anyone! The entire thing of women started out with him making women or at least wanting a woman that is submissive, the whole thing started with me sending a letter explaining a "possibility" about why the universe is the way it is which only led to him in short terms, debunking any possibility of any existence in his mind of my beliefs because it was 1) Mythical Origins of the Universe, 2) Possessed no logic nor fact. Here are the letters about my views on women. Slight editing will be made to the letters but no major changes will be made! By me and sent to Venger Satanis: "Unless your views on women infiltrate all of your teachings then I can't be a student but if your views aren't infused with most of your teachings then I would be more than willing to be a student. Serbahk Nect" By Venger Satanis to Me: "I can do that. I may "use women", but I also care for them and love them. I have a g/f who adores me. She keeps telling me how well I treat her, better than any boyfriend she's had previously. Am I still a womanizer to her? VS" By Me and sent to Venger Satanis - *these Astrix will signify the beginning and end of the phrase VS wanted me to post here." "In my concepts, it doesn't matter what the woman thinks if she thinks you treat her good when you view her as a submissive toy. To do so then care about her is a way to ignore the negativity of what your doing. Remember this is only my opinion and idea of things, your on a different level than I am, we both grew up in different households and around different people. I say it doesn't matter what a woman thinks because if she says you treat her good even though you womanize her, shes at as much fault as you. *The act of making a woman submissive or letting her be submissive without trying to help her to rise up above that flaw is in all honesty an entrapment to the both of you. You might think this is free love or sexual liberation but its has no more meaning or fruitfulness than Adolf Hitler had on liberating the Jews!* Sexual Liberation was never intended as a way to become a pig, to view the feminine gender as a "pussy." Men and women are equal regardless what any degenerate generation taught! For women to be slaves (including sexually) is a view that has long out lived its usefulness for it never had usefulness. For a woman to be believe that she is a servant to a man or there to please her man solely is no better than the man that treats her like a woman that is only good for certain things! Any man can treat any woman as nice as possible but if he still views her as a pussy etc. and she still views him as her master, then true Enlightenment is meant to come as a failure for them! You have your views of world domination and frankly so do I and this view of women and men have no part in it! Sexuality is sacred and not something to be tossed around like a fucking rag! To treat women like slaves or as a pussy is to degrade the sexuality of women and their sacredness! Enlightenment will never be bestowed upon anyone like this!!! Yes, I believe strongly in this!" By Venger Satanis and sent to Me: "If you believe that strongly in it, then perhaps we've found your "chief feature"? But you should MOST DEFINITELY post at least this much of your email on the CoC forum for people to read and consider: "The act of making of making a woman submissive or letting her be submissive without trying to help to rise up above that flaw is in all honesty an entrapment to the both of you. You might think this is free love or sexual liberation but its has no more meaning or fruitfulness than Adolf Hitler had on liberating the Jews!" I think it would be an eye opening experience for everyone involved. VS" By Me and sent to Venger Satanis as my final letter to him on this issue! "Fine then, theres been a long awaited "break-out" with the Cult of Cthulhu anyways. I have no problem whatsoever with sharing my views on just how ignorant pigs are and animalistically vile humanity can be to women!!!" If you don't understand something the first time then go back and re-read it! Yes, I did change "the act of making of making" to "the act of making." I don't believe that qualifies as a major change unless you are, for some reason, interested in my grammatical errors. I will be leaving this forum, Cthulhu Cult Forum, in exactly Seven Days starting today unless Venger Satanis decides to kick me off sooner. If the Cthulhu Cult holds so strongly this view of women, that they are submissive to man and even slaves, then I have no scruple whatsoever in detaching myself from this organization. The only true essence of this cult that makes a cult in the modern eye (in my opinion at least) is the view of women being submissive and slave like while the man rules over her like some high ranking pompously self-righteous god! No need to put any name for I no longer go by "Serbahk Nect" and I would put "Necro Tsa'Kai Satanis" but some of you might think its me trying to piss off VS because he asked me not to use it! SEVEN DAYS AND I WILL BE GONE OF THIS FORUM. IF ANYONE OF THESE PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE WISH TO DELETE ME OR FOR ME TO DO THE HONOR OF IT THEN LET ME KNOW BUT THESE FIRST FEW PEOPLE WILL BE DELETED BECAUSE I PERSONALLY HAVE A STRONG FEELING THAT YOUR TOO ATTACHED TO VENGER SATANIS TO KEEP ME UP ON YOUR FRIEND LIST! WHO WILL BE DELETED: www.youtube.com/user/TheIchor - obviously, seeing how I pissed him off enough. www.youtube.com/user/thesatanicnetwork - probably too attached to Venger Satanis to keep me on his friends list or he would do it simply he because he probably wouldn't want me up on his site! www.youtube.com/user/jason666king - probably for the latter reason above which may actually turn out to be the first reason if not both. www.youtube.com/user/beastxeno - similar reasons. IF YOU WISH TO DISASSOCIATE YOURSELVES WITH ME ON YOUTUBE THEN LET ME KNOW OR DELETE ME: www.youtube.com/user/Madgutenwww.youtube.com/user/DarkPrismOfficialwww.youtube.com/user/DarkF00L - subscribed. If I missed anyone then feel free to delete yourselves! I am not viewing every Cthulhu Cultist as womanizing pigs nor any of the women in the Cthulhu Cult as submissive whores! Yes, heard me right! I will not apologize for what I said about men nor what I said about women in this sense! It is not my fault if any of you misunderstand something that I said! Seeing how some of you except for Madguten and VS may not know who I am on youtube, here are my links: www.youtube.com/user/budferryman www.youtube.com/user/ReverendTyLaneywww.youtube.com/user/LuciferRising666777
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Post by beastx on Jun 29, 2010 14:54:49 GMT -6
Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of the Law and Do What Thou Wilt As Long As It Corresponds To Thy Will! Cthulhu Cultists, Priests of R'lyeh, and High Priest Venger As'Nas Satanis!!! Recently Venger Satanis and I have had a few distinctive chats, well actually more like me pouring out my views on a few issues. Yes, as he as suggested they were a bit a hostile but not in the sense of attacking him, only stressing my views. I was not attempting to break any kind of relationship off with Him nor the Cult of Cthulhu but for short time now I have seen a "break-out" with the Cthulhu Cult coming! He suggested that I post a specific part of my last letter to him about my views on here which I agreed to. I will post it not this small amount that he suggested (though I will point out what part it is for clarity) but the whole letter! I have no scruple in reviewing my beliefs with you or anyone! The entire thing of women started out with him making women or at least wanting a woman that is submissive, the whole thing started with me sending a letter explaining a "possibility" about why the universe is the way it is which only led to him in short terms, debunking any possibility of any existence in his mind of my beliefs because it was 1) Mythical Origins of the Universe, 2) Possessed no logic nor fact. Here are the letters about my views on women. Slight editing will be made to the letters but no major changes will be made! By me and sent to Venger Satanis: "Unless your views on women infiltrate all of your teachings then I can't be a student but if your views aren't infused with most of your teachings then I would be more than willing to be a student. Serbahk Nect" By Venger Satanis to Me: "I can do that. I may "use women", but I also care for them and love them. I have a g/f who adores me. She keeps telling me how well I treat her, better than any boyfriend she's had previously. Am I still a womanizer to her? VS" By Me and sent to Venger Satanis - *these Astrix will signify the beginning and end of the phrase VS wanted me to post here." "In my concepts, it doesn't matter what the woman thinks if she thinks you treat her good when you view her as a submissive toy. To do so then care about her is a way to ignore the negativity of what your doing. Remember this is only my opinion and idea of things, your on a different level than I am, we both grew up in different households and around different people. I say it doesn't matter what a woman thinks because if she says you treat her good even though you womanize her, shes at as much fault as you. *The act of making a woman submissive or letting her be submissive without trying to help her to rise up above that flaw is in all honesty an entrapment to the both of you. You might think this is free love or sexual liberation but its has no more meaning or fruitfulness than Adolf Hitler had on liberating the Jews!* Sexual Liberation was never intended as a way to become a pig, to view the feminine gender as a "pussy." Men and women are equal regardless what any degenerate generation taught! For women to be slaves (including sexually) is a view that has long out lived its usefulness for it never had usefulness. For a woman to be believe that she is a servant to a man or there to please her man solely is no better than the man that treats her like a woman that is only good for certain things! Any man can treat any woman as nice as possible but if he still views her as a pussy etc. and she still views him as her master, then true Enlightenment is meant to come as a failure for them! You have your views of world domination and frankly so do I and this view of women and men have no part in it! Sexuality is sacred and not something to be tossed around like a fucking rag! To treat women like slaves or as a pussy is to degrade the sexuality of women and their sacredness! Enlightenment will never be bestowed upon anyone like this!!! Yes, I believe strongly in this!" By Venger Satanis and sent to Me: "If you believe that strongly in it, then perhaps we've found your "chief feature"? But you should MOST DEFINITELY post at least this much of your email on the CoC forum for people to read and consider: "The act of making of making a woman submissive or letting her be submissive without trying to help to rise up above that flaw is in all honesty an entrapment to the both of you. You might think this is free love or sexual liberation but its has no more meaning or fruitfulness than Adolf Hitler had on liberating the Jews!" I think it would be an eye opening experience for everyone involved. VS" By Me and sent to Venger Satanis as my final letter to him on this issue! "Fine then, theres been a long awaited "break-out" with the Cult of Cthulhu anyways. I have no problem whatsoever with sharing my views on just how ignorant pigs are and animalistically vile humanity can be to women!!!" If you don't understand something the first time then go back and re-read it! Yes, I did change "the act of making of making" to "the act of making." I don't believe that qualifies as a major change unless you are, for some reason, interested in my grammatical errors. I will be leaving this forum, Cthulhu Cult Forum, in exactly Seven Days starting today unless Venger Satanis decides to kick me off sooner. If the Cthulhu Cult holds so strongly this view of women, that they are submissive to man and even slaves, then I have no scruple whatsoever in detaching myself from this organization. The only true essence of this cult that makes a cult in the modern eye (in my opinion at least) is the view of women being submissive and slave like while the man rules over her like some high ranking pompously self-righteous god! No need to put any name for I no longer go by "Serbahk Nect" and I would put "Necro Tsa'Kai Satanis" but some of you might think its me trying to piss off VS because he asked me not to use it! SEVEN DAYS AND I WILL BE GONE OF THIS FORUM. IF ANYONE OF THESE PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE WISH TO DELETE ME OR FOR ME TO DO THE HONOR OF IT THEN LET ME KNOW BUT THESE FIRST FEW PEOPLE WILL BE DELETED BECAUSE I PERSONALLY HAVE A STRONG FEELING THAT YOUR TOO ATTACHED TO VENGER SATANIS TO KEEP ME UP ON YOUR FRIEND LIST! WHO WILL BE DELETED: www.youtube.com/user/TheIchor - obviously, seeing how I pissed him off enough. www.youtube.com/user/thesatanicnetwork - probably too attached to Venger Satanis to keep me on his friends list or he would do it simply he because he probably wouldn't want me up on his site! www.youtube.com/user/jason666king - probably for the latter reason above which may actually turn out to be the first reason if not both. www.youtube.com/user/beastxeno - similar reasons. IF YOU WISH TO DISASSOCIATE YOURSELVES WITH ME ON YOUTUBE THEN LET ME KNOW OR DELETE ME: www.youtube.com/user/Madgutenwww.youtube.com/user/DarkPrismOfficialwww.youtube.com/user/DarkF00L - subscribed. If I missed anyone then feel free to delete yourselves! I am not viewing every Cthulhu Cultist as womanizing pigs nor any of the women in the Cthulhu Cult as submissive whores! Yes, heard me right! I will not apologize for what I said about men nor what I said about women in this sense! It is not my fault if any of you misunderstand something that I said! Seeing how some of you except for Madguten and VS may not know who I am on youtube, here are my links: www.youtube.com/user/budferryman www.youtube.com/user/ReverendTyLaneywww.youtube.com/user/LuciferRising666777 Hmmm... Well I appreciate the strong feeling that you have on this. I must confess I think you don't truly understand the nature of what you are talking about.
I will speak here only from my personal experience and will not pretend to speak for anyone else other than me and mine. I happen to be building a relationship with a woman which is D/s in nature. WILL YOU NOW READ FURTHER? I hope so.
Though this is not my first experience in this type of relationship, this is the only type of relationship which works for me. What I mean is not that none of the rest are my taste. What I mean is that I'm doomed to fail in all others.
I want you to really understand something here. In this type of relationship things are not really as they seem. Though I assume the role of Dominate and she assumes the role of submissive. The true holding of the dominance lies in her hands. I know this sounds confusing but I promise you it isn't.
See she gives to me in a way that is so complete... so fulfilling. To be honest if not for the obvious lack of understanding on your part (and I want you to understand this regardless if you do/do not leave), I wouldn't be openly talking about this, as her and I are relatively new. Back to what I was saying. She gives to me in a way that completes me. She understands me, almost instinctively. I understand her in the same way. Though it has only been a short time with her, the honest truth is if she wanted nothing more to do with me at any point... I don't think I could breathe or feel ever again.
As strong of a person as I am....ask anyone who knows me even a little if you want to find out how strong that is... I could possibly plunge into a place where I would never return from.
Why is this? Why would I fall?
She looks to me for strength when her's is running thin (and she is a VERY strong woman). She looks to me for guidance when she feels lost. But the coin flips... When I feel weak, loving her gives me strength. When I'm becoming unfocused, loving her gives me a sense of direction.
Ask her one time if she has any doubt that she is loved... Ask her is she cherished... Ask her if there is any doubt in her mind that I hold her above me. I'll put money on her answer being that she is convinced of all three... She knows I love her (I don't have to even speak it), She knows I cherish her, and She is well aware that I would slaughter 100,000 men to keep her safe, healthy, and happy.
It is in that, you can find that I DO NOT need to lift her up. She is already held to the highest point. She gives herself to me not because she is weak or being told she is less than me. She gives herself to me because she believes she belongs to me.
This in her and I's estimate is what is missing from the current mentality of the world. Perhaps single handedly why marriages end in divorce. See she KNOWS she is the girl for me... there is no other and will not be. I'm sure if I wanted others she'd probably give that to me. Because she takes pleasure in making me happy.
So you take it for what is worth... but it IS something you obviously don't get.
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Jason King, Satanic International, and anyone other than Myself and Venger Satanis need not be lumped into this basket. They claim nothing other than friendship with us. The loyalty stops there.
Now let me ask you one question.... When did god die and leave YOU his throne to sit upon and judge?
AWAKE!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh CULT OF CTHULHU!!!
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Jun 29, 2010 15:31:11 GMT -6
I was going to get into the dynamics of a D/s relationship but I believe First Priest Beast Xeno pretty much covered that.
I'll just add that I too have been in a D/s (Master/slave) relationship and would have definitely enjoyed it more if the girl I was with truly wanted to be a slave, maybe it was my fault as well... It's in the past. Anyway.
It's important to realize that within the BDSM community nobody is forced to do anything against there own free will. Most often a Master and slave will create some kind of contract for a period of time that lays out some ground rules. Dos and Don'ts if you will. There will be a power exchange between the two participants. Also if a slave defies his or her Master there will be punishment and reprecussions.
Anyway, you should educate yourself further before you come to assumptions. Also keeping an open mind never hurt.
I'd love to get in an actual functional D/s relationship someday.
Awake!
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Post by beastx on Jun 29, 2010 15:42:05 GMT -6
I was going to get into the dynamics of a D/s relationship but I believe First Priest Beast Xeno pretty much covered that. I'll just add that I too have been in a D/s (Master/slave) relationship and would have definitely enjoyed it more if the girl I was with truly wanted to be a slave, maybe it was my fault as well... It's in the past. Anyway. It's important to realize that within the BDSM community nobody is forced to do anything against there own free will. Most often a Master and slave will create some kind of contract for a period of time that lays out some ground rules. Dos and Don'ts if you will. There will be a power exchange between the two participants. Also if a slave defies his or her Master there will be punishment and reprecussions. Anyway, you should educate yourself further before you come to assumptions. Also keeping an open mind never hurt. I'd love to get in an actual functional D/s relationship someday. Awake! Kai'Sigth,
A little side note... Just be patient (waiting for and in the forming of) and very specific in what you want.. The WILL does the rest...
When the Stars are Right!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by egodiabolus on Jun 29, 2010 16:42:49 GMT -6
Wow.
I really mean... wow.
Serbahk Nect is most definitely entitled to his opinion (he is listed as male in his profile, so if I am using the incorrect gender-relative pronoun, forgive me).
Some of us, I think, are trying to figure out what that opinion is. I don't think I am alone in saying that the message is a bit muddled by the passion with which it was delivered. If I am following this correctly, he is a put-off by our High Priest Venger Satanis making it known that his ideal mate would be "submissive".
I wonder, if Lord Satanis said that he preferred red-heads, would he be discriminating against women of other hair-color? Would the whole history of how blonds and brunettes are maligned by society be somehow dredged up for him to answer to?
It is a crying shame that we are so politically correct, so overly sensitive, that we have to deny our instinctual selves.
Let's say you put two toddlers into a room by themselves, and observed them from behind a two-way mirror (before you laugh or cry "foul", these experiments were done). One toddler will invariably assume a dominant role, while the other will be submissive, regardless of gender. They work it out for themselves.
In life, we all take on certain, natural roles. There is a core essence that permeates all our individual masks. Each of us will fall on a scale somewhere between dominant in our interactions and submissive. That is not to say that, just because I am a man that I am naturally dominant, but because I am me I am naturally dominant. I cannot speak for other men. It would be foolish for me to assume that women are naturally submissive. Society, tradition, history, or whatever may suggest this, but until the woman tells me or demonstrates her instinctual tendency one way or another, I just don't know.
Now if you, like Lord Satanis, have observed yourself for some time, and have observed your relationships, you might come to a conclusion about the type of person you want to partner yourself with domestically. Lord Satanis appears to have determined that he prefers women over men, following his essential self. None of our members of the homosexual variety are howling for his blood or abandoning the organization simply because he likes women. Next, he might prefer petite women over robust women. To each their own! Clearly, he knows that being in a relationship with another dominant personality is just going to lead to a level of conflict that does not meet his needs. A relationship with a person who is somewhere in the middle of the scale must also not be satisfying to him. So, he wants a woman who enjoys being submissive.
What does that mean? It means that the woman in question must have also observed herself, at least in regards to what she likes in her relationships. She might need to prefer men over women to be with our High Priest. She might have to have a penchant for shaved scalps, green slime, deep philosophy, HP Lovecraft, and a little weirdness. Most importantly, though, she would need to enjoy being with a dominant man.
Are we to condemn her for knowing what she likes and going for it? Are we to rail against her for enjoying a role that appears to set back the womens liberation movement? Hell, I thought freedom meant HAVING YOUR OWN CHOICE! I didn't know that it meant giving up one externally enforced role for another externally enforced role, just because someone else said it was for your own good.
I get what you are saying. Your discussion with our High Priest suggests that his view is that women are by design in a naturally submissive role. I don't agree with him, and neither does my woman, especially when she is riding on top of me. However, I am also not so PC (Politically Constipated) that I am going to let our difference of opinion cause me to run for the hills!
Serbahk Nect, if you can get over it, then I think you should stick around, just to make certain that everyone continues to be allowed to have their own opinion, even if it differs from yours. But, if that is a burden that is beyond you, well, thanks for your participation up to this point. When you find that place were everything is bright, cut-and-dry, uni-sex track-suit, Stepford Society equality, send me a post card so I know to stay the hell away.
The worst thing for women is people trying to tell individual women what is best for them.
Awake!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 16:59:23 GMT -6
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Hmmm... Well I appreciate the strong feeling that you have on this. I must confess I think you don't truly understand the nature of what you are talking about.
I will speak here only from my personal experience and will not pretend to speak for anyone else other than me and mine. I happen to be building a relationship with a woman which is D/s in nature. WILL YOU NOW READ FURTHER? I hope so.
Though this is not my first experience in this type of relationship, this is the only type of relationship which works for me. What I mean is not that none of the rest are my taste. What I mean is that I'm doomed to fail in all others.
I want you to really understand something here. In this type of relationship things are not really as they seem. Though I assume the role of Dominate and she assumes the role of submissive. The true holding of the dominance lies in her hands. I know this sounds confusing but I promise you it isn't.
See she gives to me in a way that is so complete... so fulfilling. To be honest if not for the obvious lack of understanding on your part (and I want you to understand this regardless if you do/do not leave), I wouldn't be openly talking about this, as her and I are relatively new. Back to what I was saying. She gives to me in a way that completes me. She understands me, almost instinctively. I understand her in the same way. Though it has only been a short time with her, the honest truth is if she wanted nothing more to do with me at any point... I don't think I could breathe or feel ever again.
As strong of a person as I am....ask anyone who knows me even a little if you want to find out how strong that is... I could possibly plunge into a place where I would never return from.
Why is this? Why would I fall?
She looks to me for strength when her's is running thin (and she is a VERY strong woman). She looks to me for guidance when she feels lost. But the coin flips... When I feel weak, loving her gives me strength. When I'm becoming unfocused, loving her gives me a sense of direction.
Ask her one time if she has any doubt that she is loved... Ask her is she cherished... Ask her if there is any doubt in her mind that I hold her above me. I'll put money on her answer being that she is convinced of all three... She knows I love her (I don't have to even speak it), She knows I cherish her, and She is well aware that I would slaughter 100,000 men to keep her safe, healthy, and happy.
It is in that, you can find that I DO NOT need to lift her up. She is already held to the highest point. She gives herself to me not because she is weak or being told she is less than me. She gives herself to me because she believes she belongs to me.
This in her and I's estimate is what is missing from the current mentality of the world. Perhaps single handedly why marriages end in divorce. See she KNOWS she is the girl for me... there is no other and will not be. I'm sure if I wanted others she'd probably give that to me. Because she takes pleasure in making me happy.
So you take it for what is worth... but it IS something you obviously don't get.
Also
Jason King, Satanic International, and anyone other than Myself and Venger Satanis need not be lumped into this basket. They claim nothing other than friendship with us. The loyalty stops there.
Now let me ask you one question.... When did god die and leave YOU his throne to sit upon and judge?
AWAKE!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh CULT OF CTHULHU!!!
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I admit that on some level I may not fully understand every thing but I have my beliefs and you have your beliefs. I am not pushing those beliefs on you or anyone else regardless what anyone says, thinks, or believes!
It is YOU that doesn't fully understand ME! To understand me and I am sure to understand you would require us to sit down and have a long talk covering the ABCs to XYZs and back to front to understand each other and even that may leave the both of us or only one of us still misunderstanding the other. I do not, unlike you seem to have suggested ("It is in that, you can find that I DO NOT need to lift her up. She is already held to the highest point.") make women out to be some weak little school girl that can't live without a man! I may be 21 at the most and reaching 22 in less than two months but that does not make me any less intelligent on my beliefs and views than you are! Just because I haven't been around for more than two decades doesn't mean I am feeble in understanding the ways of life and love!
I strongly believe that WOMEN and MEN are equal, not that there ever was one above the other. I also believe that in a relationship the male nor female should take the role of dominate or rather alpha male (alpha female) solely but that both the male and female are equal. This means that they choose to do things together and neither forces something on the other or does something behind their back!
I understand what you mean by taking the role of dominance but she holds all the keys (or cards depending how you want to view it). It is something that occurred to me some years ago but I will admit that we may not still be on the same page with that.
When I say "lift her up" I mean that you should (as in reference to what I said in my letter to VS) let her know that she is an individual and NOT under anyone even if she strongly believes that she is submissive to you! I also believe that the woman helps the man out emotionally and psychologically but giving him confidence etc. as does the man with the woman.
Nonetheless no one should take the role of dominance, I don't really give a fuck if its the president of the United States, the Pope, or even GOD hirself!!! People should live life yes but they must understand that there is a very fine line between being true to yourself and to other in case of True Heart Felt Love and not some vulgar spasm you have in your pants! People have to overcome their insecurities (yes, I know I have insecurities! And do NOT preach at me about how I shouldn't being preaching about overcoming these issues when I am dealing with mine! There is a certain strength in know that a friend or even a leader like individual suffers as you do! Fuck any and all leaders that claim to be enlightened so that they can lead the masses into eternal damnation (which is lying to yourself!)!
When did GOD die and leave me this throne to sit upon and judge? Well, I am no good with fractions but you have that 3/4 right. God did die, he left me a throne to sit upon (throne makes one, and to sit upon it makes one more) but I do not judge unless someone judges me first! This is yet another way you and so many others misunderstand me. I made it clear that these were my opinions and ideas, not that YOU or anyone should live by them! You can do whatever you want, I may like it or hate it but I have no god damn fucking say over what you do just as you have no god damn fucking say over what I do! I was explaining my beliefs to VS which apparently took it the wrong way as was expected! Yes, I am more evolved than alot of people, the people that the CoC calls Sleeple or as others call Sheeple. I am no god by any means, I am not a magus, I am not this and I am not that! I do not claim the Throne of God as being the sole Master of the Universe as some childish little prank or self indulgent belief! I AM WHO I AM!
I claim the road to Divinity not in unification with the Universe, Deity, God, or other ineffable being! I claim the path of divinity in the sense that I will one day and in one time in the sense that I will become Divine by destroying the ego and returning to the purest form of my existing soul! You might say that this is self righteous but you would be one to talk because as I understand it you are also a Satanist! We are all destined for Divinehood, not with GOD but with our inner divinity!
I am NOT tossing You or anyone else in this mess of things! I only made those comments about deleting you or you deleting me from youtube as a PS or whatever you want to call it! When I said that you wouldn't want me on your youtube channel I meant it as it was, not that it was gospel!
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 17:08:20 GMT -6
I was going to get into the dynamics of a D/s relationship but I believe First Priest Beast Xeno pretty much covered that. I'll just add that I too have been in a D/s (Master/slave) relationship and would have definitely enjoyed it more if the girl I was with truly wanted to be a slave, maybe it was my fault as well... It's in the past. Anyway. It's important to realize that within the BDSM community nobody is forced to do anything against there own free will. Most often a Master and slave will create some kind of contract for a period of time that lays out some ground rules. Dos and Don'ts if you will. There will be a power exchange between the two participants. Also if a slave defies his or her Master there will be punishment and reprecussions. Anyway, you should educate yourself further before you come to assumptions. Also keeping an open mind never hurt. I'd love to get in an actual functional D/s relationship someday. Awake! I do keep an open mind regardless of what anyone believes. I, as I already said in my response to Beast Xeno that these are my beliefs and NOT my fault for anyone taking them out of context! The whole thing about defing your master and there will be consequences is an excuse to live your animalistical shameful sexual fantasies! If you were in a love relation, meaning that it was heart felt and not cock felt or pussy felt, and you both agreed to some role play then so be it! If it is out of love then may it be damned to failure for it was never meant to be! I stant by my statement in my original thread (blog post etc.) that if world dominance was to fall in my hands,(don't get me wrong, slavery would not EXIST!) this view of sexuality and women would not EXIST! In regards to your response and ultimately BXs response, I grew up being submissive to people! I let them walk all over me and yet I tried to be kind. I was honestly the perfect little gentleman, never did anything out of the way to harm someone etc. Then I started seeing the world for what it really was, I learned a great deal, I educated myself so don't preach to me about seld education! I keep an open mind!
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 17:10:47 GMT -6
I was going to get into the dynamics of a D/s relationship but I believe First Priest Beast Xeno pretty much covered that. I'll just add that I too have been in a D/s (Master/slave) relationship and would have definitely enjoyed it more if the girl I was with truly wanted to be a slave, maybe it was my fault as well... It's in the past. Anyway. It's important to realize that within the BDSM community nobody is forced to do anything against there own free will. Most often a Master and slave will create some kind of contract for a period of time that lays out some ground rules. Dos and Don'ts if you will. There will be a power exchange between the two participants. Also if a slave defies his or her Master there will be punishment and reprecussions. Anyway, you should educate yourself further before you come to assumptions. Also keeping an open mind never hurt. I'd love to get in an actual functional D/s relationship someday. Awake! Kai'Sigth,
A little side note... Just be patient (waiting for and in the forming of) and very specific in what you want.. The WILL does the rest...
When the Stars are Right!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of CthulhuWe are not submissive to our Wills! They do not control us, we control them! Thats fact not insecurity!
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 17:50:44 GMT -6
Wow.
I really mean... wow.
Serbahk Nect is most definitely entitled to his opinion (he is listed as male in his profile, so if I am using the incorrect gender-relative pronoun, forgive me).
Some of us, I think, are trying to figure out what that opinion is. I don't think I am alone in saying that the message is a bit muddled by the passion with which it was delivered. If I am following this correctly, he is a put-off by our High Priest Venger Satanis making it known that his ideal mate would be "submissive".
I wonder, if Lord Satanis said that he preferred red-heads, would he be discriminating against women of other hair-color? Would the whole history of how blonds and brunettes are maligned by society be somehow dredged up for him to answer to?
It is a crying shame that we are so politically correct, so overly sensitive, that we have to deny our instinctual selves.
Let's say you put two toddlers into a room by themselves, and observed them from behind a two-way mirror (before you laugh or cry "foul", these experiments were done). One toddler will invariably assume a dominant role, while the other will be submissive, regardless of gender. They work it out for themselves.
In life, we all take on certain, natural roles. There is a core essence that permeates all our individual masks. Each of us will fall on a scale somewhere between dominant in our interactions and submissive. That is not to say that, just because I am a man that I am naturally dominant, but because I am me I am naturally dominant. I cannot speak for other men. It would be foolish for me to assume that women are naturally submissive. Society, tradition, history, or whatever may suggest this, but until the woman tells me or demonstrates her instinctual tendency one way or another, I just don't know.
Now if you, like Lord Satanis, have observed yourself for some time, and have observed your relationships, you might come to a conclusion about the type of person you want to partner yourself with domestically. Lord Satanis appears to have determined that he prefers women over men, following his essential self. None of our members of the homosexual variety are howling for his blood or abandoning the organization simply because he likes women. Next, he might prefer petite women over robust women. To each their own! Clearly, he knows that being in a relationship with another dominant personality is just going to lead to a level of conflict that does not meet his needs. A relationship with a person who is somewhere in the middle of the scale must also not be satisfying to him. So, he wants a woman who enjoys being submissive.
What does that mean? It means that the woman in question must have also observed herself, at least in regards to what she likes in her relationships. She might need to prefer men over women to be with our High Priest. She might have to have a penchant for shaved scalps, green slime, deep philosophy, HP Lovecraft, and a little weirdness. Most importantly, though, she would need to enjoy being with a dominant man.
Are we to condemn her for knowing what she likes and going for it? Are we to rail against her for enjoying a role that appears to set back the womens liberation movement? Hell, I thought freedom meant HAVING YOUR OWN CHOICE! I didn't know that it meant giving up one externally enforced role for another externally enforced role, just because someone else said it was for your own good.
I get what you are saying. Your discussion with our High Priest suggests that his view is that women are by design in a naturally submissive role. I don't agree with him, and neither does my woman, especially when she is riding on top of me. However, I am also not so PC (Politically Constipated) that I am going to let our difference of opinion cause me to run for the hills!
Serbahk Nect, if you can get over it, then I think you should stick around, just to make certain that everyone continues to be allowed to have their own opinion, even if it differs from yours. But, if that is a burden that is beyond you, well, thanks for your participation up to this point. When you find that place were everything is bright, cut-and-dry, uni-sex track-suit, Stepford Society equality, send me a post card so I know to stay the hell away.
The worst thing for women is people trying to tell individual women what is best for them.
Awake!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu This is going to be long... So, ill try to keep it short but as effective to the point as possible. Yes, I am a male and NO I do not believe that I am dominant to High Priest Venger As'Nas Satanis! I do not believe that I am dominant to anyone unless they prove to me that I am above their previous existence of knowledge and being! Even though I view VSs and any other mans views on woman being submissive as VILE and MALE CHAUVINISTIC PIG LIKE, I am not dominant to VS or any one else! Life is about finding what fits you but you have to stop and view the consequences of your actions. Some choose to view them while others don't. For me, however, certain actions are justified by their means! VS could have said that he preferred a specific type hair color or body shape with a girl and I wouldn't have cared any less than I would now! I just strongly believe in the equality of women and men, not that one is above the other and frankly I don't kindly to knowing that there such vile vermin filled pigs that view women in such a grotesque and inhuman way!!! Yeah, sure I will admit that I have looked at myself and as I told VS in those letters (some that I didn't post but don't get in a huffy about that! The letters posted pretty much summarized everything up) that I do, as a male, find submissive women to my liking. In fact I had a gf that tried like fucking crazy to make me accept that she was my slave, sex toy etc. Whether if this is a part of my loose catholic upbringing I do not know but I fight against this desire for a submissive woman! I couldn't live with myself knowing that I made her do something or even asked her to do something cause I knew she was more than willing to do it! Not on a "I love you and I want to make you happy, I know you would want to make me happy too." but on a strictly "I want to make you happy, you don't need to do anything for me but sit back and enjoy it!" You know how fucking annoying that is? ? To know that a woman believes that she is BELOW YOU? Its more fucked up in my mind that God killing infants!!!!!!! On the words of Womens Liberation - FUCK FEMINISTS! Feminists in the sense of these overly insecure women that think ALL men are out to make them submissive! Women's liberation is something that has always existed, its the male that made her believe it was never established! Freedom is Heretical, Heretic comes from the Greek word Heretikos which means "to choose." I am a Heretic and god damn proud of it! Freedom of choice is important but not at the cost of ignoring yourself as an individual or your individual importance! Sin does not signify immorality! It signifies the act of lying to ones self! You all need to stop making me out to be some dominant male or dictator of you ALL! I am not no such thing to YOU! If you are doing it to make me learn a lesson like we are all equal then I can honestly say that anyone that you all are hypocrites! You say we are equal but yet you are willing to let women be less than they really are! I don't want you or anyone else to run for the hills! I am not Politically constipated for this has nothing to do with Society, Politics etc. Unless you want to change that to politics in the sense of morals etc. For a man to say that his woman doesn't feel submissive while she is riding him, only suggests that he letter her fulfill his carnal urges that are nothing more than animalistic vileness! Sex is ok in a relationship of True Heart Felt not, not gender felt curiosity! I am sticking around for seven fucking days which is long enough for those that really give a fuck to comment! There may be a feel others but if they don't comment then so be it. I may not enjoy certain comments but I will stay for seven days to let anyone who wishes to speak their mind of this,to do so. If YOU personally want to go around asking people to come and check my blog post/threat out then so be it! The only thing these comments are proving is what kind of people you guys are and that you have no problem with misunderstanding me and ignoring that I stated clearly that these were my beliefs and not VSs or anyone elses. That I was simply stating my beliefs! For you to say that the worst thing for women is people trying to tell individual women whats best for them (signifying me? which I believe you are!) qualifies you as a FUCKING BASTARD in my book! GOOD BYE!
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Jun 29, 2010 17:50:53 GMT -6
I read as much as I can on this, I am a woman and have no problem with HP Venger Satanis, in fact when i talk with him or message him he tends to stimulate my mind in a way that will also help me stay Awake as well.
Unfortunately there will be those who dislike another's view of reality or what pretains to their essential self. HP Venger Satanis is entitled to his own views as you are entitled to yours, as I am entitled to my own views.
Not meaning to attack it seems rather that he touched a sensitive area for yourself and it is a thought provoking considering different realities here. But to really awaken you would need to observe yourself and your beliefs. Let me ask you this, does your beliefs define you or do you define your beliefs? My point? My point is that HP Venger Satanis is aware of himself and speaks his mind and does not try to sugarcoat it either, what he believes in is his own reality, including his view on women. Strangely you may think I might be offended by how he viewed us women but I am not because it i know it doesnt suit myself in any way.
So if you are offended by his view on women, you need to take a look at yourself.
Awake!
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Post by beastx on Jun 29, 2010 17:52:32 GMT -6
Now we are getting somewhere! I'm going to go in reverse this time, so please bear with me.
You are right I am a Satanist. Doesn't that for one minute make you stop and go wait... why did he say these things?
Destruction of the Ego... what does this mean to you?
The dictionary defines this as...
So when you are destroying that what do you think is happening? Many people misunderstand this... Is it the destruction of self (to make separation from the all)?
Ok... but have you really analyzed your position? Cause from here, My Brother... It sure looks like it from here.
Two thoughts...
1. Do you live on planet earth? (I'm sorry if that seems sarcastic) Have you looked at the nature of the world abroad?
2. Satanism is not anarchism.. We struggle to be the dominant, in all we do... Remember defiance is representative of the struggle for dominance... Hmmm... Adversary... Accuser... Defiance... Yeah the three have nothing in common.
Believe me, No matter how aware you try to make anyone of anything until they WANT to see it, they won't.
Like you here for instance... What you are missing is that this is what SHE wants from the beginning... It is how she is being an individual. This IS HER. So saying "hey don't do that... you are an individual" is no different than saying "hey its not cool to wear those shorts".
Besides do you remember what LaVey said about what one should to about giving advice?
My Brother... You really got to be real here... NOTHING and NO ONE is and ever will be truly equal. I know just where you are coming from here... but at some point we got to face reality...
Do you even really want that? If you were equal to everyone else... Then in what way would you be different? It's a logical fallacy...
First understand that I in no way implied ever that she is a weak little school girl (cept when the mood is right you know **wink**).
Secondly you are right I don't know you... I would be happy to. However you gotta do me one favor... my hot-blooded friend... QUIT making assumptions. If you wanna talk as adults do... then I'll even give you my phone number.
Do you really believe that bag of shit? I'd say you came in here pushing your beliefs hard and with conviction. Wouldn't you?
Understand I'm not looking down on you for it or for anything you've said. However this IS what the DEVIL does...
He challenges...
AWAKE!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Jun 29, 2010 17:58:48 GMT -6
My Brother... You really got to be real here... NOTHING and NO ONE is and ever will be truly equal. I know just where you are coming from here... but at some point we got to face reality...
Do you even really want that? If you were equal to everyone else... Then in what way would you be different? It's a logical fallacy...
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 18:01:27 GMT -6
I read as much as I can on this, I am a woman and have no problem with HP Venger Satanis, in fact when i talk with him or message him he tends to stimulate my mind in a way that will also help me stay Awake as well. Unfortunately there will be those who dislike another's view of reality or what pretains to their essential self. HP Venger Satanis is entitled to his own views as you are entitled to yours, as I am entitled to my own views. Not meaning to attack it seems rather that he touched a sensitive area for yourself and it is a thought provoking considering different realities here. But to really awaken you would need to observe yourself and your beliefs. Let me ask you this, does your beliefs define you or do you define your beliefs? My point? My point is that HP Venger Satanis is aware of himself and speaks his mind and does not try to sugarcoat it either, what he believes in is his own reality, including his view on women. Strangely you may think I might be offended by how he viewed us women but I am not because it i know it doesnt suit myself in any way. So if you are offended by his view on women, you need to take a look at yourself. Awake! I am against VSs belief that women are submissive! Both, I define my beliefs, and they define me! I will not lie when it comes to that! Is it right or wrong? It depends for me. Yes, I look at myself, I am aware of myself, and I am who I am just as anyone else is! It is VS that is not fully aware of himself, he ignores the inner female or at least if he even begins to accept it he only accepts it to a degree. He must be fully opened to it for true achievement to enter his life! I passed the point of being considerate long ago in this area! I am offended because he has so little standard for the female, regardless of any fucking paradigm! Mine or his, or yours etc.! This isn't about being a part of a single belief system but about universal view of whats right or wrong in sense of treating others as equals etc.!
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Post by egodiabolus on Jun 29, 2010 19:09:55 GMT -6
I am against VSs belief that women are submissive! I disagree with the belief that women are submissive, but I am not against anyone who holds that opinion personally. It is simply none of my damn business, and if he can find a woman willing to tolerate or even fulfill that role for him, it continues to be none of my business.Both, I define my beliefs, and they define me! I will not lie when it comes to that! Is it right or wrong? It depends for me. Yes, I look at myself, I am aware of myself, and I am who I am just as anyone else is! It is VS that is not fully aware of himself, he ignores the inner female or at least if he even begins to accept it he only accepts it to a degree. He must be fully opened to it for true achievement to enter his life! I passed the point of being considerate long ago in this area! What if his inner-chick is a dominant woman who only likes to be with people who are submissive?I am offended because he has so little standard for the female, regardless of any fucking paradigm! Mine or his, or yours etc.! This isn't about being a part of a single belief system but about universal view of whats right or wrong in sense of treating others as equals etc.! Really, a "universal view of what's right or wrong". So, you have been to every other part of the universe and can say, definitively, what is "right or wrong".
No, don't answer that. Answer this question:
Does a woman, who is equal to a man, have a right to CHOOSE to take a submissive role to a man if she desires it? Does she have the right to CHOOSE to be with a man who does not view her as an equal?
In response to your previous post:
I didn't say you were coming off as dominant to Lord Satanis. You misunderstood me, but that seems to be your thing. I admire a guy who knows his strengths and runs with them. ...I do, as a male, find submissive women to my liking. In fact I had a gf that tried like fucking crazy to make me accept that she was my slave, sex toy etc. Whether if this is a part of my loose catholic upbringing I do not know but I fight against this desire for a submissive woman! I couldn't live with myself knowing that I made her do something or even asked her to do something cause I knew she was more than willing to do it! Not on a "I love you and I want to make you happy, I know you would want to make me happy too." but on a strictly "I want to make you happy, you don't need to do anything for me but sit back and enjoy it!" You know how fucking annoying that is? ? To know that a woman believes that she is BELOW YOU? Its more fucked up in my mind that God killing infants!!!!!!! It is more fucked up in your mind... You are describing your issues. Please stop trying to project your issues on everyone else. What is "right or wrong' in your mind isn't necessarily the case for the rest of us.
In your scenario, you described a woman who asked you to treat her a certain way, and you refused. I guess she wasn't equal enough to you for her requests to have merit, because you were right and she was wrong.
Wow... sounds chauvinistic to me. You all need to stop making me out to be some dominant male or dictator of you ALL! I am not no such thing to YOU! If you are doing it to make me learn a lesson like we are all equal then I can honestly say that anyone that you all are hypocrites! You say we are equal but yet you are willing to let women be less than they really are! Wait, who are you to say that an individual woman, who CHOOSES to be submissive, is being "Less than they really are"? Who are you to make that call for women of the world? We are only equal in our right to choose to do and be who and whatever we can. You are saying that Lord Satanis cannot choose to be who he is, and that the woman who caters to him is making a mistake? How the hell is that equal? I don't want you or anyone else to run for the hills! I am not Politically constipated for this has nothing to do with Society, Politics etc. Unless you want to change that to politics in the sense of morals etc. For a man to say that his woman doesn't feel submissive while she is riding him, only suggests that he letter her fulfill his carnal urges that are nothing more than animalistic vileness! Sex is ok in a relationship of True Heart Felt not, not gender felt curiosity! What?
Wait a second. When my woman and I come together, it is all about fulfilling our mutual carnal urges. Who the FUCK are you to try to judge what goes on in my relationship? It is animalistic! It is vile! And, it is FUCKING GLORIOUS! We have been rutting like animals for 7 years, and I am certain she will be on here later this evening to tell you just how far off-base you are.
Are you one of those people that thinks women can't really enjoy sex in a carnal fashion, and only do some of the vile, animalistic acts to satisfy the lust of a man? I get it now... your a GEEK! I wrote about geek-love in this blog:
satansego.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-hell-was-i-thinking-geek-love.html
Subscribe to my blog. I am FREAKIN' HILARIOUS! I am sticking around for seven fucking days which is long enough for those that really give a fuck to comment! There may be a feel others but if they don't comment then so be it. I may not enjoy certain comments but I will stay for seven days to let anyone who wishes to speak their mind of this,to do so. If YOU personally want to go around asking people to come and check my blog post/threat out then so be it! The only thing these comments are proving is what kind of people you guys are and that you have no problem with misunderstanding me and ignoring that I stated clearly that these were my beliefs and not VSs or anyone elses. That I was simply stating my beliefs! Okay, Serbahk Nect, I don't want to personally go around and ask anyone to do anything. You do your thing, and that is cool. You're on your crusade for the equal treatment of all persons everywhere, and I support that. All I am saying is that, at the end of the day, what goes on between two equal people in a relationship is between them, and if one of them tends to be more submissive than the other but the relationships still works, well, regardless of how narrow that possibility might be in your mind, it is still between them and not anyone else's business.
You are stating your beliefs. So are we. Most of us seem to be okay with your beliefs, even if we disagree. How about showing us the same courtesy?
And, yes, I am having a little fun with you. I tend to follow the path of least resistance/most fun. I am a bad, bad Priest of R'lyeh... shame on me.
As for these posts proving what kind of guys we are, I think thus far it has been an outstanding showing. I mean, we've been tolerant of you, haven't we? For you to say that the worst thing for women is people trying to tell individual women whats best for them (signifying me? which I believe you are!) qualifies you as a FUCKING BASTARD in my book! Okay, am I a bastard for saying that women shouldn't be told what is best for them, or suggesting that you are telling women what is best for them. The parenthesis threw me off.
And, you got it half-right. I am "fucking", but I know who my father is, thus I cannot technically be a "bastard".
MAN this is going to be a fun 7 days!
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
PS.
To my fellow Cultists...
I did try to be serious with this guy in my first post. I was trying to be rational, but, well, now here I am, trying to make lemonade out of lemons. If it has to be this ugly, confused, righteous self-loathing things, then why not have some fun with it? Can you blame me?
E.D.
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 19:11:20 GMT -6
Now we are getting somewhere! I'm going to go in reverse this time, so please bear with me.
You are right I am a Satanist. Doesn't that for one minute make you stop and go wait... why did he say these things?
Destruction of the Ego... what does this mean to you?
The dictionary defines this as...
So when you are destroying that what do you think is happening? Many people misunderstand this... Is it the destruction of self (to make separation from the all)?
Ok... but have you really analyzed your position? Cause from here, My Brother... It sure looks like it from here.
Two thoughts...
1. Do you live on planet earth? (I'm sorry if that seems sarcastic) Have you looked at the nature of the world abroad?
2. Satanism is not anarchism.. We struggle to be the dominant, in all we do... Remember defiance is representative of the struggle for dominance... Hmmm... Adversary... Accuser... Defiance... Yeah the three have nothing in common.
Believe me, No matter how aware you try to make anyone of anything until they WANT to see it, they won't.
Like you here for instance... What you are missing is that this is what SHE wants from the beginning... It is how she is being an individual. This IS HER. So saying "hey don't do that... you are an individual" is no different than saying "hey its not cool to wear those shorts".
Besides do you remember what LaVey said about what one should to about giving advice?
My Brother... You really got to be real here... NOTHING and NO ONE is and ever will be truly equal. I know just where you are coming from here... but at some point we got to face reality...
Do you even really want that? If you were equal to everyone else... Then in what way would you be different? It's a logical fallacy...
First understand that I in no way implied ever that she is a weak little school girl (cept when the mood is right you know **wink**).
Secondly you are right I don't know you... I would be happy to. However you gotta do me one favor... my hot-blooded friend... QUIT making assumptions. If you wanna talk as adults do... then I'll even give you my phone number.
Do you really believe that bag of shit? I'd say you came in here pushing your beliefs hard and with conviction. Wouldn't you?
Understand I'm not looking down on you for it or for anything you've said. However this IS what the DEVIL does...
He challenges...
AWAKE!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu Well, I did have a fully written response to you BX but then my account logged out on me! Let’s try this again… 1. When I said that about being a Satanist I was referring to the Satanists belief that they are a god. Therefore your opinion didn’t really apply to what I had to say. 2 and 3. The ego is referring to the False Ego and not the individual personality. The false ego represents or IS all of the flaws of who I am. To destroy this false ego is to purify the essence of self. The view of woman being submissive falls under this category as does the act of allowing a woman to be this way! 4. Yes, I understand that it seems like I am judging but I am not. I am only stressing the fact that my beliefs are my beliefs and yes, I have conviction with those beliefs when I came here! 5. Do I live on planet earth? What that we are the hunted and must become the hunter or that nothing has any real meaning? I would go with the hunted one to be honest. Satan is the trickster (my opinion, not pushing it on you) and we all do take on the role, Satanist or not, (on some level) of the accuser, adversary etc. Dominance is important for survival but for me the true enemy is the Demiurge and his archons. We are important to ourselves but we also have to acknowledge others (once again only stating my views and opinions). In fact just keep in mid anyone and everyone that I basically only posting my views, opinions, and beliefs! I am not making you or anyone focus on them! 6. For me, what I consider the truth is that sin doesn’t represent immorality but lying to one’s self. She is lying to herself and so would a man in the same situation. She must understand that she is above something so low, that she is important and that she is who she is. Who she is is NOT a submissive woman! For her to do this is to deny her very existence as a woman! Woman is a warrior and self dependent but also caring and loving of others, especially the person she loves. LaVey said, “Don’t give advice unless you are asked!” this is only a rule in LaVeyan Satanism and any strict offspring that believes it, I don’t! 7. My view of equality is that we were all on the same level until someone proved that they are above or below. Only our significant other is truly our equal! 8. I was referring to you implying that I was implying that all women are feeble little schoolgirls that need a man! Not that you were implying your woman was that way. Yeah, this conversation (all of these conversations) have got my blood up but not to the point that I would go barbarian on the town! We would probably have arguments on the phone plus I don’t care for phones. I know how to use them but they just don’t fit my life that well. 9. Look at section 4 of this comment. Yes, the Devil challenges, as I said he is the Trickster. Or at least as far as I am concerned. There was A LOT more to this comment but I don’t remember every little thing I said. This gave me a chance to redo things and make it better but I got the gist of it all written down.
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Jun 29, 2010 19:27:35 GMT -6
A couple of things...
First, I would like congratulate our High Priest and both of our Priests of R'lyeh for being in such fulfilling, personal relationships.
Second, I find it disheartening that Serbahk Nect has belittled women so much to infer that we need a spokes"man" to speak out on our behalf. I have a voice of my own. If I don't need my very capable, intellectual, dominant male companion to stand up for my rights of equality, then I certainly don't need any other man to do so either.
I have posted before about my personal experience with BDSM, and I would encourage you to go back and read through that thread. There are many different types of responses and perspectives represented that you may find it educational. Please note that throughout the thread, there are opinions that may differ with Lord Satanis, and not once does he condemn those people for having them.
I personally find being the submissive one of the relationship extremely empowering and gratifying. I find joy in making my significant other happy and in satisfying their desires, carnal or otherwise. I look to him for strength when I can't seem to find it on my own, and I appreciate him pushing my limits when he thinks I can handle it. But I ask you, do you think he doesn't feel the same way about me? Just because I'm submissive doesn't mean that he doesn't get the same stability and gratification that I do. It doesn't mean that he is in control, or that I expect him to tell me what to do. It doesn't mean that I can't think for myself, or that I don't have the capability to make my own decisions. Quite the contrary.
If Lord Satanis says he wants a submissive partner, so what? If you say you want an "equal" partner, so what? Neither of you are "right;" merely expressing what interests you in a partner. And your partnership should be fulfilling, not create more problems in your life. If you know you would be more successful in a relationship with someone equal, you wouldn't want to settle into a relationship where that isn't the case. Your relationship would be toxic and prevent you from experiencing much more than the chaos created in your home.
Serbahk Nect, you may have our best, little intentions at heart, but I think you are misguided in how you are handling Lord Satanis' decision to have a submissive female counterpart. Your passion is impressive, and exactly what we need in the CoC. I hope that you stay and continue to share your passion on all levels available within the organization.
Awake!
AK
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Post by beastx on Jun 29, 2010 19:51:22 GMT -6
Yes, the Devil challenges, as I said he is the Trickster. Or at least as far as I am concerned.
One last dance with the Devil ok?
I challenge you to tell me how a woman being equal to me (as laid out by your beliefs) doesn't have the right to decide she is submissive? More importantly than that... how do you know... that "she" is lying to herself? You aren't in her head and everyone is... well (contrary to the beliefs you've expressed) a DIFFERENT person?
** BX dictionary entry**
Equal;
The same as or identical
**BX dictionary entry**
Different;
Not the same as, not equal
Food for thought... nothing more I can help you with...
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 19:59:39 GMT -6
I am against VSs belief that women are submissive! I disagree with the belief that women are submissive, but I am not against anyone who holds that opinion personally. It is simply none of my damn business, and if he can find a woman willing to tolerate or even fulfill that role for him, it continues to be none of my business. What if his inner-chick is a dominant woman who only likes to be with people who are submissive? Really, a "universal view of what's right or wrong". So, you have been to every other part of the universe and can say, definitively, what is "right or wrong".
No, don't answer that. Answer this question:
Does a woman, who is equal to a man, have a right to CHOOSE to take a submissive role to a man if she desires it? Does she have the right to CHOOSE to be with a man who does not view her as an equal?
In response to your previous post:
I didn't say you were coming off as dominant to Lord Satanis. You misunderstood me, but that seems to be your thing. I admire a guy who knows his strengths and runs with them. It is more fucked up in your mind... You are describing your issues. Please stop trying to project your issues on everyone else. What is "right or wrong' in your mind isn't necessarily the case for the rest of us.
In your scenario, you described a woman who asked you to treat her a certain way, and you refused. I guess she wasn't equal enough to you for her requests to have merit, because you were right and she was wrong.
Wow... sounds chauvinistic to me. Wait, who are you to say that an individual woman, who CHOOSES to be submissive, is being "Less than they really are"? Who are you to make that call for women of the world? We are only equal in our right to choose to do and be who and whatever we can. You are saying that Lord Satanis cannot choose to be who he is, and that the woman who caters to him is making a mistake? How the hell is that equal? What?
Wait a second. When my woman and I come together, it is all about fulfilling our mutual carnal urges. Who the FUCK are you to try to judge what goes on in my relationship? It is animalistic! It is vile! And, it is FUCKING GLORIOUS! We have been rutting like animals for 7 years, and I am certain she will be on here later this evening to tell you just how far off-base you are.
Are you one of those people that thinks women can't really enjoy sex in a carnal fashion, and only do some of the vile, animalistic acts to satisfy the lust of a man? I get it now... your a GEEK! I wrote about geek-love in this blog:
satansego.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-hell-was-i-thinking-geek-love.html
Subscribe to my blog. I am FREAKIN' HILARIOUS! Okay, Serbahk Nect, I don't want to personally go around and ask anyone to do anything. You do your thing, and that is cool. You're on your crusade for the equal treatment of all persons everywhere, and I support that. All I am saying is that, at the end of the day, what goes on between two equal people in a relationship is between them, and if one of them tends to be more submissive than the other but the relationships still works, well, regardless of how narrow that possibility might be in your mind, it is still between them and not anyone else's business.
You are stating your beliefs. So are we. Most of us seem to be okay with your beliefs, even if we disagree. How about showing us the same courtesy?
And, yes, I am having a little fun with you. I tend to follow the path of least resistance/most fun. I am a bad, bad Priest of R'lyeh... shame on me.
As for these posts proving what kind of guys we are, I think thus far it has been an outstanding showing. I mean, we've been tolerant of you, haven't we? For you to say that the worst thing for women is people trying to tell individual women whats best for them (signifying me? which I believe you are!) qualifies you as a FUCKING BASTARD in my book! Okay, am I a bastard for saying that women shouldn't be told what is best for them, or suggesting that you are telling women what is best for them. The parenthesis threw me off.
And, you got it half-right. I am "fucking", but I know who my father is, thus I cannot technically be a "bastard".
MAN this is going to be a fun 7 days!
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
PS.
To my fellow Cultists...
I did try to be serious with this guy in my first post. I was trying to be rational, but, well, now here I am, trying to make lemonade out of lemons. If it has to be this ugly, confused, righteous self-loathing things, then why not have some fun with it? Can you blame me?
E.D.True it is none of our business but as an individual I am posting my views, beliefs and opinions about it. I can say whether if I accept something or not about a person and it not be budging into their personal life etc. The Inner Female is not subject to human emotion etc. it is the Goddess within which yearns for a balance of divinity, not a balance of vile vomit that has been hacked up by a shit licking dog! I am going to answer what I want to answer whether if you want it answered or not! My views of Right and Wrong are what I consider right and wrong, not what others do. Even though I seem like I am pushing my beliefs on to others I am only giving a descriptive view of my beliefs! As far as I am concerned, right and wrong mean: Right – anything that doesn’t conflict with another person’s existence in the sense that it causes negative effects that have no fruitful after taste whatsoever. Wrong – anything that does conflict with another person’s existence and does most definitely cause unproductive negativity. She has DOES have a choice just as does a man but for the man to accept her as a submissive woman and for her to accept her being a submissive woman whether if it was her desire or his desire which led to her desire to be submissive for him, is falsity! They are lying to themselves, she is lying to herself because she’s ignoring her true nature and he is lying to himself because he is denying himself to unite with the inner female and to grow! Misunderstanding people’s comments isn’t my thing. It seems to your guy’s thing to misunderstand me. I will admit that I may have misunderstood things but it isn’t fully my fault for misunderstanding! If people don’t want people to misunderstand things then they shouldn’t imply certain things! Ok, now YOU ARE FUCKED! You are no better than the High School asshole and punk, hell your no better than a damn prep!!! If you think someone is pushing their views on others because they voice it, then you’re a hazard to society than and not in a productive way either! It is people like you that fuck up the world and frankly should take the time out of their OWN life to review what they really are! You are nothing more than a monkey with an overly egotistical attitude!!! It is your FUCKING MISCONCEPTION that I view myself higher than others! “Wait, who are you to say that an individual woman, who CHOOSES to be submissive, is being "Less than they really are"? Who are you to make that call for women of the world? We are only equal in our right to choose to do and be who and whatever we can. You are saying that Lord Satanis cannot choose to be who he is, and that the woman who caters to him is making a mistake? How the hell is that equal?” Ok, first off I want to say that it is not my fault that you are a fucking idiot! I don’t make the claim that I am the ruler of women in this world, I am stating what I believe to be truth and at this point I have no scruple in saying that IT IS TRUTH THAT A WOMAN THAT BELIEVES SHE IS SUBMISSIVE (OR A MAN THAT BELIEVES HE IS SUBMISSIVE) IS LYING TO THEM SELVES THEREFORE ARE WRONG IN THEIR IDEA OF WHO THEY ARE! You don’t have to believe me or anything and don’t even think about trying to PUSH YOU VIEWS ONTO ME ABOUT HOW I AM WRONG! I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT PUSHING MY VIEWS ON YOU, THIS IS WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE TRUTH! I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS EQUAL! YOU MADE THAT MISCONCEPTION! You know what, FUCK YOU! You’re a pig that deserves to rot in hell if it even exists for degrading the female and male as does your woman! Anyone that experiences sexuality solely as a sexual act is depraved in the sense that they are NOT beyond this veil of illusions! You are a PIG! Believe what you want and I will believe what I want! Just because you believe that I am a man that doesn’t believe woman can enjoy sex is totally your fucked misconception asshole! Fuck SUBMISSIVITY and if the LAWS OF THE LAND WERE GONE EVEN FOR FIVE FUCKING MINUTES I WOULD TRULY EXPRESS MYSELF!!!! Tolerant? How fucking dense are you??? Venger Satanis said that I should post my views of women on here. I don’t give a fuck if you were tolerant of me you asshole! I was tolerant enough of YOU to comment back!!!!! I don’t even want to be here, I am going on to prove just how fucking lazy you people can be by ignoring what I have said numerous times and YOU BETTER NOT EVEN ASK WHAT THAT WAS!!!! If you have to then it just proves you really are ignoring certain aspects of what I said like “I am only stating my views, beliefs and opinions” and that “I am not pushing anything on to anyone!!!” You are a fucking bastard because you suggested that I have such a low opinion of women that I feel I have to make them worthy of themselves!!!!!! This is a fucking lie, I don’t believe this nor will do I ever treat a woman like that! Fun seven days? This is my last response to you, you are no longer going to receive responses from me unless I absolutely no other choice or you actually create sock accounts just to fuck with me!
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 20:04:27 GMT -6
A couple of things...
First, I would like congratulate our High Priest and both of our Priests of R'lyeh for being in such fulfilling, personal relationships.
Second, I find it disheartening that Serbahk Nect has belittled women so much to infer that we need a spokes"man" to speak out on our behalf. I have a voice of my own. If I don't need my very capable, intellectual, dominant male companion to stand up for my rights of equality, then I certainly don't need any other man to do so either.
I have posted before about my personal experience with BDSM, and I would encourage you to go back and read through that thread. There are many different types of responses and perspectives represented that you may find it educational. Please note that throughout the thread, there are opinions that may differ with Lord Satanis, and not once does he condemn those people for having them.
I personally find being the submissive one of the relationship extremely empowering and gratifying. I find joy in making my significant other happy and in satisfying their desires, carnal or otherwise. I look to him for strength when I can't seem to find it on my own, and I appreciate him pushing my limits when he thinks I can handle it. But I ask you, do you think he doesn't feel the same way about me? Just because I'm submissive doesn't mean that he doesn't get the same stability and gratification that I do. It doesn't mean that he is in control, or that I expect him to tell me what to do. It doesn't mean that I can't think for myself, or that I don't have the capability to make my own decisions. Quite the contrary.
If Lord Satanis says he wants a submissive partner, so what? If you say you want an "equal" partner, so what? Neither of you are "right;" merely expressing what interests you in a partner. And your partnership should be fulfilling, not create more problems in your life. If you know you would be more successful in a relationship with someone equal, you wouldn't want to settle into a relationship where that isn't the case. Your relationship would be toxic and prevent you from experiencing much more than the chaos created in your home.
Serbahk Nect, you may have our best, little intentions at heart, but I think you are misguided in how you are handling Lord Satanis' decision to have a submissive female counterpart. Your passion is impressive, and exactly what we need in the CoC. I hope that you stay and continue to share your passion on all levels available within the organization.
Awake!
AK FUCK ANYONE THAT VIEWS ME AS BEING A MALE CHAUVINISTIC PIG AND IF YOU WRITE A COMMENT ABOUT IT I WILL REPLY WITH A VERY SIMILAR RESPONSE LIKE THIS OR I WON'T REPLY AT ALL!!! NO I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY GIVE A FUCK, IF YOU DON'T THEN DON'T REPLY BITCHS, BASTARDS, ASSHOLES, SHITHOLES OR WHATEVER ELSE I CAN DESCRIBE YOU WRETCH HUMAN BEINGS AS!!!
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Post by egodiabolus on Jun 29, 2010 20:08:39 GMT -6
True it is none of our business but as an individual I am posting my views, beliefs and opinions about it. I can say whether if I accept something or not about a person and it not be budging into their personal life etc. The Inner Female is not subject to human emotion etc. it is the Goddess within which yearns for a balance of divinity, not a balance of vile vomit that has been hacked up by a shit licking dog! I am going to answer what I want to answer whether if you want it answered or not! My views of Right and Wrong are what I consider right and wrong, not what others do. Even though I seem like I am pushing my beliefs on to others I am only giving a descriptive view of my beliefs! As far as I am concerned, right and wrong mean: Right – anything that doesn’t conflict with another person’s existence in the sense that it causes negative effects that have no fruitful after taste whatsoever. Wrong – anything that does conflict with another person’s existence and does most definitely cause unproductive negativity. She has DOES have a choice just as does a man but for the man to accept her as a submissive woman and for her to accept her being a submissive woman whether if it was her desire or his desire which led to her desire to be submissive for him, is falsity! They are lying to themselves, she is lying to herself because she’s ignoring her true nature and he is lying to himself because he is denying himself to unite with the inner female and to grow! Misunderstanding people’s comments isn’t my thing. It seems to your guy’s thing to misunderstand me. I will admit that I may have misunderstood things but it isn’t fully my fault for misunderstanding! If people don’t want people to misunderstand things then they shouldn’t imply certain things! Ok, now YOU ARE FUCKED! You are no better than the High School asshole and punk, hell your no better than a damn prep!!! If you think someone is pushing their views on others because they voice it, then you’re a hazard to society than and not in a productive way either! It is people like you that fuck up the world and frankly should take the time out of their OWN life to review what they really are! You are nothing more than a monkey with an overly egotistical attitude!!! It is your FUCKING MISCONCEPTION that I view myself higher than others! “Wait, who are you to say that an individual woman, who CHOOSES to be submissive, is being "Less than they really are"? Who are you to make that call for women of the world? We are only equal in our right to choose to do and be who and whatever we can. You are saying that Lord Satanis cannot choose to be who he is, and that the woman who caters to him is making a mistake? How the hell is that equal?” Ok, first off I want to say that it is not my fault that you are a fucking idiot! I don’t make the claim that I am the ruler of women in this world, I am stating what I believe to be truth and at this point I have no scruple in saying that IT IS TRUTH THAT A WOMAN THAT BELIEVES SHE IS SUBMISSIVE (OR A MAN THAT BELIEVES HE IS SUBMISSIVE) IS LYING TO THEM SELVES THEREFORE ARE WRONG IN THEIR IDEA OF WHO THEY ARE! You don’t have to believe me or anything and don’t even think about trying to PUSH YOU VIEWS ONTO ME ABOUT HOW I AM WRONG! I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT PUSHING MY VIEWS ON YOU, THIS IS WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE TRUTH! I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS EQUAL! YOU MADE THAT MISCONCEPTION! You know what, FUCK YOU! You’re a pig that deserves to rot in hell if it even exists for degrading the female and male as does your woman! Anyone that experiences sexuality solely as a sexual act is depraved in the sense that they are NOT beyond this veil of illusions! You are a PIG! Believe what you want and I will believe what I want! Just because you believe that I am a man that doesn’t believe woman can enjoy sex is totally your fucked misconception asshole! Fuck SUBMISSIVITY and if the LAWS OF THE LAND WERE GONE EVEN FOR FIVE FUCKING MINUTES I WOULD TRULY EXPRESS MYSELF!!!! Tolerant? How fucking dense are you??? Venger Satanis said that I should post my views of women on here. I don’t give a fuck if you were tolerant of me you asshole! I was tolerant enough of YOU to comment back!!!!! I don’t even want to be here, I am going on to prove just how fucking lazy you people can be by ignoring what I have said numerous times and YOU BETTER NOT EVEN ASK WHAT THAT WAS!!!! If you have to then it just proves you really are ignoring certain aspects of what I said like “I am only stating my views, beliefs and opinions” and that “I am not pushing anything on to anyone!!!” You are a fucking bastard because you suggested that I have such a low opinion of women that I feel I have to make them worthy of themselves!!!!!! This is a fucking lie, I don’t believe this nor will do I ever treat a woman like that! Fun seven days? This is my last response to you, you are no longer going to receive responses from me unless I absolutely no other choice or you actually create sock accounts just to fuck with me! Clearly, my work is done here.
Awake!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 20:11:51 GMT -6
Yes, the Devil challenges, as I said he is the Trickster. Or at least as far as I am concerned.
One last dance with the Devil ok?
I challenge you to tell me how a woman being equal to me (as laid out by your beliefs) doesn't have the right to decide she is submissive? More importantly than that... how do you know... that "she" is lying to herself? You aren't in her head and everyone is... well (contrary to the beliefs you've expressed) a DIFFERENT person?
** BX dictionary entry**
Equal;
The same as or identical
**BX dictionary entry**
Different;
Not the same as, not equal
Food for thought... nothing more I can help you with...
- BXThis will be my last post altogether, these fucking children aren't worth wasting my time with! Say what you want because im going to say what I want anyways! I don't have any need anymore to stress any fact about my views, opinions and beliefs because no one seems to take them into consideration and would rather fuck with me! So FUCK YOU TO ALL THOSE ASSHOLES OUT THERE!!! MEN OR WOMEN!!! Frankly I don't have to accept any challenge especially when I have given my views already! I will delete this account sometime in the future, I may choose to respond to comments but I doubt it. Unlike what some of curmudgeons might say, I am not doing this because you have run me out of the town or made me realize that I am wrong! I just don't think losing hours or even seconds of my life is worth wasting it on you ingrates!
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Post by beastx on Jun 29, 2010 20:14:19 GMT -6
Clearly, my work is done here.
Awake!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
Shame... I really thought there was hope for this young man. Let's wish him the best!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by beastx on Jun 29, 2010 20:18:22 GMT -6
This will be my last post altogether, these fucking children aren't worth wasting my time with! Say what you want because im going to say what I want anyways! I don't have any need anymore to stress any fact about my views, opinions and beliefs because no one seems to take them into consideration and would rather fuck with me! So FUCK YOU TO ALL THOSE ASSHOLES OUT THERE!!! MEN OR WOMEN!!! Frankly I don't have to accept any challenge especially when I have given my views already! I will delete this account sometime in the future, I may choose to respond to comments but I doubt it. Unlike what some of curmudgeons might say, I am not doing this because you have run me out of the town or made me realize that I am wrong! I just don't think losing hours or even seconds of my life is worth wasting it on you ingrates! Thanks for the respect... It was duely noted. Good wishes.
-BX
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 20:26:32 GMT -6
Clearly, my work is done here.
Awake!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
Shame... I really thought there was hope for this young man. Let's wish him the best!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of CthulhuMy future nor my hope lies with YOU nor the CTHULHU CULT!!! I HAVE A FUTURE OF MY OWN THAT DETAILS ME AND ME ALONE! OTHER ARE WELCOME TO INTERCEDE WHO HAVE A SIMILAR MIND! THE ONLY THING THAT IS LOST OR A SHAME IS THAT THIS PLACE AND THESE PEOPLE, ESPECIALY VENGER SATANIS, WOULD BE GENUINE HELP!
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Post by egodiabolus on Jun 29, 2010 21:00:33 GMT -6
I just don't think losing hours or even seconds of my life is worth wasting it on you ingrates! We appear to be a hard habit to break. Thanks for continuing to waste a few more seconds of your life on we ingrates. You're an inspiration to us all.
Awake.
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Jun 29, 2010 21:03:06 GMT -6
Shame... I really thought there was hope for this young man. Let's wish him the best!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu My future nor my hope lies with YOU nor the CTHULHU CULT!!! I HAVE A FUTURE OF MY OWN THAT DETAILS ME AND ME ALONE! OTHER ARE WELCOME TO INTERCEDE WHO HAVE A SIMILAR MIND! THE ONLY THING THAT IS LOST OR A SHAME IS THAT THIS PLACE AND THESE PEOPLE, ESPECIALY VENGER SATANIS, WOULD BE GENUINE HELP! You got a lot to learn, kid. Way to keep an open-mind. Awake!
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Post by eldritchentity0 on Jun 29, 2010 21:24:11 GMT -6
Dude I am a woman and I of course dont need another man sticking up for me either, I am a lesbian and no ordinary lipstick lesbian either. But what you want is what you want in a relationship, the same goes for anyone else.
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 22:21:57 GMT -6
Dude I am a woman and I of course dont need another man sticking up for me either, I am a lesbian and no ordinary lipstick lesbian either. But what you want is what you want in a relationship, the same goes for anyone else. Honestly put, fuck your belief! I am not sticking up for you or anyone! Misconceptions are a dis-ease of the mind!
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Post by Serbahk Nect on Jun 29, 2010 22:22:52 GMT -6
My future nor my hope lies with YOU nor the CTHULHU CULT!!! I HAVE A FUTURE OF MY OWN THAT DETAILS ME AND ME ALONE! OTHER ARE WELCOME TO INTERCEDE WHO HAVE A SIMILAR MIND! THE ONLY THING THAT IS LOST OR A SHAME IS THAT THIS PLACE AND THESE PEOPLE, ESPECIALY VENGER SATANIS, WOULD BE GENUINE HELP! You got a lot to learn, kid. Way to keep an open-mind. Awake! Fuck your belief as well! An open mind IS something I possess, you just lack the understanding to accept that I have one!
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Post by I AM the Way on Jun 29, 2010 23:16:17 GMT -6
Self-destruct initiated...
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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