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Post by I AM the Way on Jul 22, 2010 14:14:54 GMT -6
I'd like to open this up to debate so that everyone's view can be heard, of those participating that is. The purpose of considering these questions is to bring order out of chaos. While I love the chaotic, the Cult of Cthulhu also needs structure because it is a system for Awakening, not a free-for-all.
As High Priest, I use the color green for my posts. The rest is left up to the individual at the moment.
Should the Priests of R'lyeh, assuming more crop up in the near future, have a unified posting color? Right now, Master Xeno uses olive and Master Diabolus uses blue. Would a singular hue bring a cohesion? It might, especially when we have 3, 4, or 5 Priests!
Should the Wizards of the Terrible Darkness have their own designated color?
Should heralds of the Old Gods only use the standard forum color?
Should outstanding posts be illuminated with a unique color by CoC Priests to designate their superior quality?
As an aside, when I'm quoting someone using a darker color such as blue or purple, I modify the hue to make it easier to read. I'm sure some of you have noticed. It should be obvious that no disrespect is intended when I change blue to skyblue or purple to orchid. However, if there isn't an issue with seeing the darker colors in smaller, quoted type, then I'll leave the original colors intact.
By the way, does everyone know how to change the coloring of their posts and that one can use colors not listed by manually typing in certain hue choices such as skyblue or chartreuse? Are forum members aware that if you use the color tags inside the quotations, then the quoted language is colorized? Because outside the quotes, the color doesn't show up.
I'd also like to look at capitalization. Something that SugarCubz mentioned in her post about directing attention. However, it goes deeper than that... some words and phrases are so crucial to our paradigm that emphasis should be indicated.
Perhaps we can come up with a short list of words that deserve mandatory capitalization? I can think of a few. Anyone want to submit others?
Cthulhu (Dread Cthulhu, Ktulu, Great Cthulhu, Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, etc.)
Cultist (Cult, but only when referring to our religion)
The Work (Work, System, Teaching, Fourth Way)
Awake (Awakened, Awakening, etc.)
Conscious
High Priest Venger Satanis (First Priest of R'lyeh Beast Xeno, Master Diabolus, H. P. Lovecraft, etc.)
That last one reminds me of something else; it would be nice if posts ended with three things (after the standard Cultist closing, of course)...
Their Cult name or what they wish to be called on the forum.
Their rank or degree within this religion.
The religion itself. Same as with business letters, the last thing on the page is usually the name of whatever organization the writer is part of.
These three things should also be enlarged so that proportionally, it balances out the body of your post. Consider the aesthetics of what you're writing. I believe either size 3 or 4 is sufficient. Preview before posting to make sure what you've written looks pleasing. Feel free to add a couple of blank spaces at the beginning and end of your post. And don't forget about the spaces between paragraphs... a huge block of words makes most readers skim over what you've written.
If that can be agreed upon, I would gladly change my own method of signaturizing my posts. Personally, I think Master Diabolus' closing is the best I've seen so far...
Just to illustrate the difference in readability which may or may not be an issue for people.
Ok, lots to think about. Would really like to hear from as many forum members as possible on these issues. Don't forget that we're all in this together; the CoC tries to make your life better, that means more detailed, intricate, dimensioned, balanced... in a word, more Conscious! Be active in the process; speak your mind!
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by A:.O:. on Jul 22, 2010 15:03:29 GMT -6
I love these ideas, I believe that they will bring a great cohesion to the forum and the Cult if properly utilized.
I'd prefer if the specific colors were not manditory but rather allowable for use of those of that rank, but they would be for the exclusive use of the specific ranks. For an example, if blue and olive were the colors to be used by the Priesthood of R'leyh then none other could use those colors but First Priest Beast Xeno and Priest Ego Diabolus (and all future Priests) would not always be required to use them.
Also I'd like if Heralds were granted a color of their own to use other than the standard forum color. Let those not officially a part of the Cult only use the standard forum colors.
Q'zbah's idea of a directory of noteworthy posts is one I've seen used on other forums to great results. With forums such as these, when posts are always stickied, I know for myself, those posts are usually skipped over in favor of the more active posts. With a directory, those noteworthy posts don't always have to be stickied knowing that they won't be lost in the shuffle either.
ia ia Cthulhu fhatgn!
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Post by egodiabolus on Jul 22, 2010 15:28:01 GMT -6
This is one of those things where whatever works best is what I want to have done. Is there a way, once a color format is designated for the different ranks, to lock out those options for other members?
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
PS. I think I would vote bold red for the Priests of R'lyeh. Seems legible enough.
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Jul 22, 2010 18:28:36 GMT -6
I completely agree with you Lord Satanis. A designated color for each rank would bring more structure to these forums and in turn the Cult. I love the idea that each rank down to Herald would have it's own color. Green for the High Priest Red for Priests of R'lyeh, Orchid for Wizard of Terrible Darkness, Light Blue for Herald of the Old Gods and the standard forum color for Messengers of the Outer Angels. I also agree that proper capitalization is key, for respect of the Cult paradigm. I picked up on that awhile ago and always make sure to carry it out properly. I'd love to see these ideas set into motion! Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu(just trying out the color )
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Post by mintberrymarmalade on Jul 22, 2010 19:13:12 GMT -6
Hi,
I was just thinking about the colored text last night. I couldn't even read some posts because they were just too hard on my eyes. The computer screen is bad enough to strain your eyes against without there being a color conflict.
-MintBerryMarmalade
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Post by rylehsambassador on Jul 22, 2010 20:44:32 GMT -6
Im with Kai sigth and A:O along with Hp satanis's original idea colors for all the official member and standard forum color for the outer members thats my vote if its that type of a thing.
G'Pock Thoth Herald of the Old Gods Cult Of Cthulhu
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Post by ragnafa on Jul 22, 2010 21:19:45 GMT -6
I completely agree with High Priest Satanis on this matter. In my opinion the Cult is not where it should be with formal structure and like Master Satanis said I'm all for Chaos as well, but We need to be more Structured and We all need to know our Place. I'm not saying that the Wizards are better than the Heralds and so fourth, I respect everyone here until respect is not needed. Not to get off track but We need more Order for our Cult to stay Alive, and not Disband. Awake.......
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Post by I AM the Way on Jul 22, 2010 22:06:50 GMT -6
Great ideas, everyone!
Thanks for replying to this thread, those that have. And I'm sure more responses will pour in soon.
So far, I like the idea of Heralds having their own color leaving Messengers of the Outer Angles and non-joiners with the standard text hue.
Just thought of something else... perhaps those belonging to a specific Grotto could have their own color? Any other color uses springing to mind?
Was there a certain color that gave you trouble? Anyone else have difficulty seeing a particular hue on their computer screen?
And the directory is a neat idea too. Will create a new stickied thread in the Rules, protocols, and announcements board. So, if you see an post that you think truly deserves special recognition, then feel free to nominate it by saying so in your reply or privately emailing a member of the Priesthood.
For reference, here's a list of all the colors I've discovered.
Black
Red
Yellow
Pink
Green
Orange
DarkOrange
Purple
Blue
Beige
Brown
Teal
Navy
LightBlue BlueGreen
Maroon
LimeGreen
SkyBlue
Orchid
Chartreuse
Olive
DarkGreen
White
Lavender
Violet
Crimson
Indigo
salmon
tangerine
Gold
Ivory
Amber
Coral
Apricot
Lime
Copper
Now some of these will probably be too dark such as Black and Navy. A couple are borderline like Blue and Indigo. Some are a little too bright, in my opinion, like Yellow, Red, and Copper. Then there are a few which I don't envision Cultists adopting such as Pink, Beige, and Salmon (but you never know). There are a few which are so close to each other that it seems redundant like Lime and Chartreuse, Green and DarkGreen, or Orchid and Violet.
But that still leaves a lot to choose from. Anyways, start casting your vote. The matter will be decided in a few days.
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by ragnafa on Jul 22, 2010 22:16:59 GMT -6
Me being a Herald I like Crimson and Indigo.
Ia,Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2010 2:09:45 GMT -6
Too many colors and it will not look serious. But a different color for priests is really good, now when I see a green, blue or olive color I know it's a "more important" post who deserve close attention.
My suggestion : a personal color as a distinction for priests who proved their mastery, a color for members of the cult, and a last one for others.
Awake.
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Post by rylehsambassador on Jul 23, 2010 6:58:34 GMT -6
As a herald the sky blue and purple appeal to my eyes quite abit thats my vote
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Post by egodiabolus on Jul 23, 2010 8:14:48 GMT -6
While all this is being hashed out, there is a simple solution for those of you having difficulty reading the colored text. Click at the beginning of the text you want to read and highlight the whole thing with your mouse. It renders everything in a nice, eye-friendly, white-on-blue.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by rylehsambassador on Jul 23, 2010 9:31:24 GMT -6
This is true hail diabolus for saving the eyes!
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Post by beastx on Jul 23, 2010 12:59:15 GMT -6
Too many colors and it will not look serious. But a different color for priests is really good, now when I see a green, blue or olive color I know it's a "more important" post who deserve close attention.
My suggestion : a personal color as a distinction for priests who proved their mastery, a color for members of the cult, and a last one for others.Awake. I would say I agree with you. It would kind of seem like a coloring book. Although some distinguishing is a good thing.
Ia Ia!
Beast Xeno First Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Jul 24, 2010 15:28:18 GMT -6
A designated color for each rank would bring more structure to these forums and in turn the Cult. Agreed. Color coding sounds like a good idea. If it could relate to the new degrees you are implementing, Lord Satanis, I think it would be even more effective.
Awake!
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Jul 25, 2010 13:38:55 GMT -6
Too many colors and it will not look serious. But a different color for priests is really good, now when I see a green, blue or olive color I know it's a "more important" post who deserve close attention.
My suggestion : a personal color as a distinction for priests who proved their mastery, a color for members of the cult, and a last one for others.Awake. Good point. Perhaps then only the Priesthood should be designated certain colors. Especially with the implementation of the new ranks. It might get a little overwhelming and as Master Xeno said appear like a "coloring book." Ia Ia Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by lucofthelight on Jul 26, 2010 2:47:57 GMT -6
Too many colors and it will not look serious. But a different color for priests is really good, now when I see a green, blue or olive color I know it's a "more important" post who deserve close attention.
My suggestion : a personal color as a distinction for priests who proved their mastery, a color for members of the cult, and a last one for others.Awake. Good point. Perhaps then only the Priesthood should be designated certain colors. Especially with the implementation of the new ranks. It might get a little overwhelming and as Master Xeno said appear like a "coloring book." Ia Ia Cthulhu fhtagn! Kai'Sigth Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu I'd have to agree. While it would be a nice idea to have different ranks using different fonts, it will be a bit confusing with the number of new ranks that have been outlayed. Again, I love the idea and hope something can be worked out. Also, I was thinking that a visual art representation of the ziggurat with the ranks therein would be awesome . I'm not particularly skilled at visual art otherwise I would give it a go myself. Anyone like the idea? It would make a nice desktop. Awake! K'ara Kaiul Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Jul 26, 2010 17:47:56 GMT -6
A visual representation would be great. Especially to illustrate the degree system to those outside of the Cult. I'm not terribly good at digital art though and wouldn't want to make a half-assed attempt at something so important regarding this Cult. I support the idea!
Kai'Sigth Adversarial Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by I AM the Way on Jul 27, 2010 13:53:14 GMT -6
A visual representation would be great. Especially to illustrate the degree system to those outside of the Cult. I'm not terribly good at digital art though and wouldn't want to make a half-assed attempt at something so important regarding this Cult. I support the idea! Kai'Sigth Adversarial Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu I agree. It would be nice to have a visual representation of the ziggurat.
Ok, here are the color codings to be implemented by August 20th, HPL's birthday:
Unaffiliated with the CoC - default color
Messenger of the Outer Angles - default color
Herald of the Old Gods - default color
Wizard of the Terrible Darkness - Teal
Seeker of S'ngac, the Violet Colored Gas - Purple
Oneironaut of the Frozen Wastes - Crimson
Visionary of the Nigrescent Feast - Maroon
Priest of Unimagined Horrors - LimeGreen
Priest of R'lyeh - Amber
High Priest - Green
I believe this selection will prevent the "coloring book" appearance which some forum members feared. Cultists of a particular Grotto and those with an honorary title should consult me if they want to use some other hue.
The Cthulhu Cult shall never die!
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Jul 27, 2010 17:27:00 GMT -6
Excellent. I look forward to the changes within these forums. The colors are certainly well thought out and they should do well to signify the members of higher ranks.
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn.
Kai'Sigth Adversarial Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by buttercup on Sept 24, 2010 19:55:46 GMT -6
You have your own distinctive color. The priests should have their own color. After all they help you set the standard of the org. They also demonstrate proper board behavior. I am sure a lot of conversation heads in their direction. Hail Satanis !
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 24, 2010 22:50:20 GMT -6
You have your own distinctive color. The priests should have their own color. After all they help you set the standard of the org. They also demonstrate proper board behavior. I am sure a lot of conversation heads in their direction. Hail Satanis ! They do have their own color.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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