Kai'Sigth
Novitiate
Dreaming Herald of the Old Gods
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Post by Kai'Sigth on Mar 2, 2010 20:50:40 GMT -6
Being a young adult disillusioned with the whole of humanity and often annoyed by ignorance of the common folk, I find it hard to maintain a neutral state, often wasting my precious energy on negative thoughts, unwarranted malice, and generally PO'ed at the sheer stupidity and willful ignorance that the common man exhibits.
I realize that they are but machines and have lately been doing much better at dispelling a counter-productive mindset. Though one as nihilistic and often pessimistic as myself finds it nothing but frustrating that I would waste time with an ill reaction and lingering disdain for those that would cause such a vile reverberation.
What I am asking is, are there any helpful methods that any of you might practice to rid oneself of such wasteful thoughts and conserve vital energy? Negativity is a waste of energy as spoken true in Liber A:O. Alas, I wish not to feed the universe.
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 3, 2010 13:53:59 GMT -6
You could try thinking of yourself as a particular machine, something specific and then imagine whoever you're angry/frustrated/disappointed/afraid of as another kind of machine. Then ask yourself, how would I gain by this blender being upset with that toaster?
The sheer ridiculousness, as well as, utter sincerity of the situation might be enough to shock you into wakefulness. Try it and let us know your results. Remember, the energy you save can be channeled into your evolution.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by egodiabolus on Mar 4, 2010 13:21:55 GMT -6
What I am asking is, are there any helpful methods that any of you might practice to rid oneself of such wasteful thoughts and conserve vital energy? Negativity is a waste of energy as spoken true in Liber A:O. Alas, I wish not to feed the universe. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!
I would add that this negativity that you experience comes from within you. It is not placed there by others. Your experience interacting with others may stimulate it, but it is YOUR experience, not the others, that is the element that you can manage.
High Priest Satanis's analogy is perfect. What is to be gained by a blender in anger with a toaster? Observe yourself, look for why YOU have an adverse reaction to others. Ants can be annoying, but few people dwell on the irritation of ants. It is a normal response to brush an annoying ant from your hand, abnormal to contemplate the audacity of the ant for being on your hand in the first place, and ridiculous to seek the irradiation of all ants for this one trespass.
There is no quick fix, but there may be a simple solution. Observe yourself, and at the instant that you would normally grow frustrated or angry, choose not to. This is hard, your "normal" response is normal because you have made that choice so many times in the past that it has become a default setting. You need to re-program a new, more beneficial (and arguably natural) response.
By His loathsome tentacles!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 4, 2010 14:23:30 GMT -6
I would call it an unnatural response, but I whole-heartedly nod in agreement with the rest of your post, Priest of R'lyeh Ego Diabolus. Well written wisdom for us all.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Mar 4, 2010 19:11:19 GMT -6
What I am asking is, are there any helpful methods that any of you might practice to rid oneself of such wasteful thoughts and conserve vital energy? Negativity is a waste of energy as spoken true in Liber A:O. Alas, I wish not to feed the universe. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!
I would add that this negativity that you experience comes from within you. It is not placed there by others. Your experience interacting with others may stimulate it, but it is YOUR experience, not the others, that is the element that you can manage.
High Priest Satanis's analogy is perfect. What is to be gained by a blender in anger with a toaster? Observe yourself, look for why YOU have an adverse reaction to others. Ants can be annoying, but few people dwell on the irritation of ants. It is a normal response to brush an annoying ant from your hand, abnormal to contemplate the audacity of the ant for being on your hand in the first place, and ridiculous to seek the irradiation of all ants for this one trespass.
There is no quick fix, but there may be a simple solution. Observe yourself, and at the instant that you would normally grow frustrated or angry, choose not to. This is hard, your "normal" response is normal because you have made that choice so many times in the past that it has become a default setting. You need to re-program a new, more beneficial (and arguably natural) response.
By His loathsome tentacles!
Ego Diabolus Priest of R'lyeh Cult of Cthulhu
I would like to add that this is not an overnight change. It takes practice and you have to have patience with yourself. You didn't acquire this habit overnight. Awake!
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Post by lunafemme on Mar 13, 2010 23:33:01 GMT -6
All of the previous posts were perfect in both advice and analogies. I used to get frustrated with the multitudes of sheep I encounter on a daily basis. Granted that is only five people, but they can still be frustrating. I feel that maybe you are trying to understand how others think and feel. I do that sometimes, and I also feel very frustrated. I think one of the keys to not caring about what others say, do, or think is to realize that they are not like you. As Venger stated, they are toasters to your blender. They burn things and you slice, cut, and puree. They have one purpose and you have many. Do your will and no outside influence can cause you to feel negatively.
I don't know where you stand as far as the occult goes, but I find that be able to control your emotions makes the rituals more effective. You need the psychodrama for the ritual not the people who surround you. The wise person who wrote that YOU are the one who is responsible for how you feel, is correct. You should think of them as training for your emotional wellbeing, not as frustrating little bags of flesh. Besides, you should check how you feel before you leave your home everyday. If you are in a hurry, fo you notice that people always want to slow you down? If you are afraid, does a threatening person seem to stare at you or worse?
It is definitely not an easy fix, but you can do it. Control the Chaos within and everything outside of you will follow.
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Post by I AM the Way on Mar 14, 2010 12:16:21 GMT -6
That reminds me of something Thomas Ligotti said in an interview about Franz Kafka. That when Kafka was at the base of a stairway, he never knew how he would feel by the time he got to the top of the stairs. I think that's so true. Human beings are disconnected from all the states that come into focus, dribble their momentary nonsense and then disappear for a time while the next "I" suddenly appears. We are not self-aware.
Say you wanted to take control of a runaway horse. Wouldn't it be easier to stop the horse first before commanding it to go in the direction you want at the speed you desire? To take command of your own thoughts, feelings, and actions... stop whatever you're doing before bringing consciousness under direct control. Otherwise, the wild stallion that is your current inner state will pull you wherever it goes, assuming you aren't thrown to the ground.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Cult of Cthulhu High Priest
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Jun 3, 2010 20:46:22 GMT -6
I think most of our frustration in dealing with other people is because of pre-determined expectations. When presented with a scenario, we tend to believe that everyone would have generally the same reaction as we do to the scenario. Then, we also tend to believe that they will come to the same conclusions we do and make generally the same decision on how to handle it. When that doesn't happen (and it rarely does), we become frustrated with the situation and/or person dealing with the situation.
If you're misplaced expectations fall on someone that is still asleep, and lives mechanically, this can be even more frustrating to someone that is more awake.
However, Priest Ego hit on it precisely when he said that you must remember it is YOUR experience. Your expectations will create the frustration if, and only if, that's how you CHOOSE to experience it. Letting go of your expectations on others can assist you in choosing not to experience the negative emotion.
Awake!
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