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Post by whatsupable on Jun 22, 2009 7:44:05 GMT -6
i have the feeling that i am living a lie for some time but now i have trouble accepting it.
since i always had the feeling that i had a good live easy whiteout much trouble.
now i see most people are only saying this to themselves.
i would Wis to just cut out the old live and go on but this would not be easy and running away won't solf much problems.
i would like to talk about how others see there live.
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Post by sin on Jun 22, 2009 13:49:09 GMT -6
Breaking away from false realities, I believe it begins in childhood.
The moment you find out there's no Santa Claus. No toothfairy. No easter bunny. And no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
You begin to question the credibility of all adults. Your environment. Your sense of security.
The more you question, the more illusions are destroyed and you find everything you have learned is ridiculous and a lie. Self-education begins. A truer sense of reality is shaped, but again is formed from your perceptions of your environment.
In essence, you can create another false sense of security.
If you stop examining, you create another illusion to be fooled by.
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Post by LostSoul on Jun 22, 2009 14:35:55 GMT -6
Well, Einstein say that the unexamined life is a life not worth living...
But, eventually, you will reach a point in your life when that kind of examination will no longer be necessary. You will be a self-assured person who knows who he is.
Of course, it would better help us to understand your dilemma if we knew just a tad more of this lie?
Sharing the problem is halfway to solving the problem...
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Post by sin on Jun 23, 2009 12:31:04 GMT -6
Well, Einstein say that the unexamined life is a life not worth living... That was Socrates actually. :-) |
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Post by LostSoul on Jun 23, 2009 19:44:25 GMT -6
My embarrassment...I could've sworn it was Einstein. Hmmm, maybe he was quoting Socrates when I read it... You are a salvation, Cora!  |
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Post by sorrowking on Jun 23, 2009 20:04:54 GMT -6
My embarrassment...I could've sworn it was Einstein. Hmmm, maybe he was quoting Socrates when I read it... You are a salvation, Cora! Salvation? Nope. Shes a damnation and we lust her for it ;P |
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Post by sin on Jun 24, 2009 7:31:34 GMT -6
My embarrassment...I could've sworn it was Einstein. Hmmm, maybe he was quoting Socrates when I read it... You are a salvation, Cora! It's possible, it's a quote used often - it expresses such a complex ideal so clearly and simply. Socrates was the man! Ever read the Apology of Socrates by Plato? If you haven't, I'd say it's a 'must read'. I can relate to his speech, as I'm often accused of poisoning the minds of the youth :-) |
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Post by whatsupable on Jun 29, 2009 4:57:27 GMT -6
well pretty much what Cora'Sahn said and i was a bit depressive like almost all my live you try to live for someting and in the end you find out it doesn't have a need to know. maby i made it sound like a big problem but that isn't it  just i get sometimes a bit depressive |
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Post by sin on Jun 29, 2009 10:36:21 GMT -6
well pretty much what Cora'Sahn said and i was a bit depressive like almost all my live you try to live for someting and in the end you find out it doesn't have a need to know. maby i made it sound like a big problem but that isn't it just i get sometimes a bit depressive Be the alchemist. Transmute a depressing idea into something you can use and benefit from. The art of misdirection and using 'lies' as tools to achieve goals. I mean, if you consider how often you have to lie to yourself to motivate yourself to do things - right? That's useful! A bit of a mundane example: I hate putting laundry away. I don't mind washing it or drying it, but putting it in its respective closets and drawers are a pain in the ass. So I procrastinate. I procrastinate so much at times, that I end up with several loads to put away - making twice the work for myself. What's the use in that? So, I'll put the clean laundry on top of my bed rather than in a laundry basket to pile up. I 'lie' to myself, by this action. I can not go to bed, until the laundry is put away. The 'lie' is that I could put it away right now, which makes sense - but I'll wait till 'later' - giving myself the 'procrastination' I desire (with laundry) but it's an illusion. I'll still put it away within a few hours of placing it there - because I 'know' that I dislike clutter and disorganization. Plus, I want to sleep in my bed :-) A lie, but a useful one. |
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Post by jeramiah on Jun 29, 2009 22:28:16 GMT -6
Socrates was also convinced that life was a sickness, a hindrance keeping him from true enlightenment, or perhaps further divine philosophical conversation with the greats of the Greek time. It is also alluded to in Twilight of the Idols by Nietzsche as to Socrates' disposition on life.
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Post by LostSoul on Jun 29, 2009 23:13:53 GMT -6
Agreed. Brilliant metaphor.
Depression is part of the human condition; and it's up to you to change it into gold...
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Post by whatsupable on Jun 30, 2009 5:11:08 GMT -6
totally agree whit it
i already had read a bit about it and it worked really good
it is just i get pretty fast in a dip
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Post by LostSoul on Jun 30, 2009 8:45:30 GMT -6
That's a big yea! Congrats!
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Post by Lord Void Bharam'ka on Jun 30, 2009 14:52:38 GMT -6
Nothing is True...
Take a Tantric approach and try to view all your suffering as Divine Suffering: A Gift...
The Gift of Change...
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Post by Ny'obstaresh on Jun 30, 2009 19:26:23 GMT -6
I hate to use such a cliched saying as this, but it does seem most fitting: When life gives you lemons, cut them up and do tequila shots!
But seriously, try to find the positive in the negative. Well, no - Do find the positive in the negative. As Cora'Sahn said: "Be the alchemist."!
If you don't like what you have - change it! If you don't, I can't see anyone else doing it for you.
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