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Post by pyramidhead333 on May 30, 2009 20:28:35 GMT -6
Goddamn, this movie made me sick! Why: 1. This movie already exists. It's called SAW. If Darren Lynn Bousman somehow finds this site, I want him to read this: sue Ulli Lommell. Now. 2. Wtf does a man, wearing a black robe and a white mask, riding a horse around, have ANYTHING to do with the plot? 3. Just what happened to the characters who they'd pull out of the coffins? How'd they die just by having flashbacks? Or was it from their mutilations? 4. It was more like something you'd see on Youtube than something made for DVD. No budget. Really cheesy acting, effects, the mutilation makeup was fine. Your typical homemade mutilations, if you will 5. The very name. Why was it called "HP Lovecraft's The Tomb?" It had absolutely NOTHING to do with Lovecraft's short story. For the record, I've never read "The Tomb," yet I know enough that the movie's plot and the story's plot had nothing to do with each other. The only references to HPL are a few mentions of his name & his stories, and I could've sworn I heard one of the victims saying, "Iä, Shub-Niggurath." 6. The killer's little "hiding place" where he'd write victims' names. Seriously, how it was set up made it look like some place all decorated for Halloween rather than the hideout for a deranged serial killer. 7. How it ended. He just let the bitch who fucked up his childhood go? Well, he did make an attempt at killing her again, I think. I don't remember 100%, and I don't wanna watch it again to make sure. Overall: I'd think if Lovecraft were alive today, or at least when that "movie" was released, he would've shot himself if he saw it most likely. Then Cthulhu would come out, and destroy that Zodiac Killer-obsessed bastard Ulli Lommel for making such an atrocity out of Lovecraft's work.
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Post by sorrowking on May 31, 2009 3:43:44 GMT -6
Well Im sure HPL would die if he saw any screen adaptions of his work. He hated the thought of his stories made into films.
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Post by I AM the Way on May 31, 2009 11:14:34 GMT -6
that's right, i don't think HPL could bare the artistic compromise necessary for making a successful film. although the silent Call of Cthulhu film probably comes damn close to realizing his vision back in 1926.
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Post by pyramidhead333 on May 31, 2009 13:20:16 GMT -6
Yeah, but of course, "Re-Animator" was a great movie. It didn't really follow the story, but its acting was really good for its time, the blood & gore was nice, along with other things I'm a bit embarrassed to mention, however on the downside, didn't Lovecraft regret even writing "Herbert West — Re-Animator" in the first place?
Anyway, I've only seen a few Lovecraftian movies, most of them were good.
The Evil Dead: Besides "Re-Animator," one of my personal favorites. Listening to Deicide's song "Dead By Dawn," which is about the plot of these movies (wait, I just realized, the anagram for "The Evil Dead" is TED. You know, like Ted Raimi, who had some association with the film), got me to wanna see it again. The first time I saw it, I kinda hated it. I was a bit of a misanthrope on that day, so that may be the explanation. Now, this is just from my FIRST experience watching it; my opinion has positively changed a lot now. Acting sucked, despised the claymation, just wanted to beat in one of their heads because of their shitty acting, etc. But now, it's a lot better. Even the acting. Can't wait to get my own Necronomicon-Exmortis for my 16th birthday! I still LMAO at the "SHUT IT OOOOOFF!" line, though. My stomach actually turned after the second time I saw it. The eye gouging scene ... hold on ... I gotta throw up ...
Re-Animator: Need I saw anymore? Acting was almost perfect for its time, good use of the blood & gore, and, dare I say it? I got a little turned on near the end with her strapped naked to the table. The third one, though, wasn't the best. I've never seen the second, since the video store doesn't have it.
Beyond the Wall of Sleep: Hm, I really just can't say on this one. I know there's another thread on it, but I'll mention it here anyway. Unintentionally funny, a little disturbing, bad acting, the gore just doesn't fit. It fit in TED and R-A, but just fails here. And when Amducious rises out of the guy, I was hoping for an absolutely kick-ass battle, but instead he just gets hit a few times, and is gone w/i seconds.
And with The Tomb? If that's the case (that he hated the idea of his stories being made into films), then Lovecraft would more likely die slow and painfully if he saw it, as opposed to shooting himself. I've seen SEVERAL bad horror movies, believe me. Wishmaster 4: The Prophecy Fulfilled, Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan, some of Bone Sickness, The Grudge, but NONE, I mean NONE, of these could match up to the abomination we know as: The Tomb.
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Post by sorrowking on May 31, 2009 17:54:19 GMT -6
The silent adaption by HPLHS was great. Funny thing is that when HPL stated that he would hate to see his stories made into film it was during the silent era. I wonder how he would feel about movies now? Still Im hanging out for The whisperer in darkness!
As for re-animator, S.T. Joshi suggests that Lovecraft actually got a kick out of "slumming" for this story. So if this is the case then I think a splatter film based on it is rather appropriate.
Evil dead? One of the greatest movies of all time! Bruce Cambell is the unchallenged king of overacting! There has been rumors of a new one for ages. I wish Raimi would get off his ass and make it!
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Post by I AM the Way on Jun 1, 2009 10:28:29 GMT -6
at the first Cthulhu convention, i mentioned the almost essential need for female nudity in Lovecraftian films. this was during S.T. Joshi's HPL lecture based around the Library of America edition of H.P. Lovecraft signifying his rise to prominent literary status. i sort of meant the female nudity comment as a joke, but not really. i believe that sex and elements of horror (fear, weirdness, alienage) capture the soul of Lovecraft's paradigm.
love Re-Animator and Evil Dead. just watched Bruce Campbell's latest film, They Call Me Bruce. it wasn't bad. the story plays off Bruce Campbell's low budget acting career in real life. why they don't carry on the Evil Dead tradition... i have no fucking idea. talk about a license to print money!
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Jun 1, 2009 15:37:31 GMT -6
They Call Me Bruce? Isn't that the one with the "little goody two-shoes" scene from Army of Darkness sorta reenacted?
And I think it's supposed to be another remake of The Evil Dead coming out. I say another because, that's technically what the 2nd was. And wasn't Evil Dead a remake of another movie?
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Post by sorrowking on Jun 1, 2009 16:42:15 GMT -6
I heard that its supposed to be another remake as well.....If it ever gets made. The evil dead was sort of a remake of the short film Raimi used to get funding for the evil dead.
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Jun 3, 2009 20:43:25 GMT -6
Venger, you never answered my question about "They Call Me Bruce." Is it, or is it not that movie?
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Post by I AM the Way on Jun 4, 2009 9:33:17 GMT -6
i was slightly off about the title. here's a plot synopsis:Something evil is stirring in the small mining town of Gold Lick, and it's not happy. Guan-di, the Chinese protector of the dead with a strange affinity for bean curd, has been awakened by reckless teenagers, and now his bloody crusade to wipe out the town's entire population can only be stopped by one man - Bruce Campbell (the guy who starred in all three Evil Dead movies and Bubba Ho-tep), B-move star and deadbeat ex-husband extraordinaire, who's recruited to be their unwitting savior. Thinking the whole scenario's a publicity prank, Bruce is distracted from his mission by a hot mom and fan boys aplenty-- but when our hero has to face off against a dark force more fearsome than a Hollywood agent, the laughs and screams start flying!
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Jun 4, 2009 16:56:39 GMT -6
I was referring to this clip:
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Post by Draelloathe on Jun 5, 2009 12:35:01 GMT -6
Need more Evil dead!
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Post by Draelloathe on Jun 5, 2009 13:42:18 GMT -6
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Jun 6, 2009 9:25:13 GMT -6
Yeah, maybe we should make an Evil Dead thread, just to change the topic. See you all there in a couple minutes
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Jun 20, 2009 20:46:27 GMT -6
i was slightly off about the title. here's a plot synopsis:Something evil is stirring in the small mining town of Gold Lick, and it's not happy. Guan-di, the Chinese protector of the dead with a strange affinity for bean curd, has been awakened by reckless teenagers, and now his bloody crusade to wipe out the town's entire population can only be stopped by one man - Bruce Campbell (the guy who starred in all three Evil Dead movies and Bubba Ho-tep), B-move star and deadbeat ex-husband extraordinaire, who's recruited to be their unwitting savior. Thinking the whole scenario's a publicity prank, Bruce is distracted from his mission by a hot mom and fan boys aplenty-- but when our hero has to face off against a dark force more fearsome than a Hollywood agent, the laughs and screams start flying! Hey, wait a minute, I think I saw this DVD at Target today!
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Post by sorrowking on Jun 20, 2009 22:15:39 GMT -6
Its a fuckin awesome flick. Anyone who loves The evil dead or Bruce Campbell should see this. If you dont love TED or Bruce you will think its a steaming pile of crap. For the cheap ass folks out there you can watch the entire movie on you tube in delectable 10 minute slices.
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Post by pyramidhead333 on Jul 22, 2009 20:56:19 GMT -6
Okay, if the victim really did say, "Iä, Shub-Niggurath," then he pronounced it "EYE-uh," not "EE-ah."
I have to say this: Ulli Lommel is a really sad man. He's let down all mankind with his terrible, no-budget movie, along with HP Lovecraft, one of the greatest (though extremely bigoted, though no more than a 1920's Englander as Venger says) horror authors ever, whom, sadly, very few people even know about anymore. At least, in the state I live in. But then, many people on your I AM the Way's/Venger's Youtube channel & videos don't seem to know much about him either. Here in MN, some are at least familiar with his name, though I think my video production teacher from 9th grade last year may know more about him.
Also, I recently saw Cube, and what I could understand of this abomination called "HP Lovecraft's The Tomb" was more of a ripoff of that than it was of Saw. Well, actually, it ripped off both, though Saw kinda ripped off Cube, but it's still a good movie. Unlike this garbage.
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