Post by I AM the Way on Jan 30, 2009 16:05:01 GMT -6
this is an instant message conversation that might further illuminate the Work. we are all here to learn, so i am grateful to my IM companion for his willingness to share our discussion with all of you. feel free to comment with your own post.
A: So, two Cannibals are eating a Clown, one looks at the other and Says;"Does this taste funny to you?"
venger.satanis: nice
A: whats up? How are ya?
venger.satanis: i'm ok
A: Horns up
venger.satanis: what are you up to?
A: Drinking GIN & Tonic witha friend and playing Jazz, getting crazy, Id stayed up for 4 days, but I finally when to bed last night.
A: @-)
venger.satanis: life as usual, eh?
A: =P~
A: Hmmm, I'm not sure what is usual about my life
A: but sometimes there is the same old shit
A: I'm very tired of that that, I'm about to change things
A: I'm thinking about moving
venger.satanis: where to?
Al: dunnno, I chick out west wantas to be with me
A: actually two or 3
A: income taxes come I'm out
A: I got mad as hell and and went off on my family, my
brother and his friends yesterday
A: they are afraid and don't understand my psychic ability, my belifes, and are intimidated. Ignorance
A: I think I burned a bridge there
venger.satanis: if they are the ones who are afraid and ignorant, then why are you the one getting mad and going off on you family/friends?
A: I was tweeked and about Demon possessed, it was pretty intense
A: I did because they was very, rude this is being going on for sometime
venger.satanis: you need to be more conscious. without that we are nothing.
A: Id have been putting up with a lot of shit, and my brother has been bring problems and trouble and very shady people into the house
A: anyway....
A: what are talking about? I was being Conscious very much so, I'm surrounded by people who aren't
venger.satanis: expressing negativity keeps you asleep. self-control is the only way you will be able to effectively interact with the world.
venger.satanis: no, none of us are conscious. that is the essence of the Cthulhu Cult. we are asleep.
A: I have much patience, but I can only tolerate so much
A: sometimes you have to put your foot down
A: Im ready to fight
A: I am awakening from a very long dream, and somethings trying to take control; of me, I don't like that
A: Im trying to be free
venger.satanis: someone who is conscious can put their foot down, or let their will be known, without expressing negative emotions.
venger.satanis: you must be ready to struggle... with your own self.
A: that been going on for sometime
A: you can belive anything about yourself, but then there's everybody else, I have to deal with them
venger.satanis: it must continue. i touch on the 4th way in Cthulhu Cult, the next book will be up on the site in a week and will go deeper into what it means to be asleep and Awake.
A: sometimes I meet very cool folks tho
venger.satanis: all you meet are machines. occasionally these machines are programmed more or less like you, but they are still machines as you are. only by struggling to be conscious can we stop being a machine and become men.
A: Right, that was what I was telling them
venger.satanis: it is all about work on oneself. self-observation, start with that.
A: Dude, I already there, that old news
venger.satanis: but you do not know anyone who is conscious, not completely. this includes you, me, and everyone you encounter.
venger.satanis: you destroy all progress by becoming angry at other machines who don't do as you wish.
A: Hmmm, well no I haven't ever met anything that was perfect
venger.satanis: the CoC is about trying to reach that perfect state.
A: I dont care about control people much, but if they interfere with my will, then get I get pissed
A: I used to take it
A: I dont belive in perfection
Al: I dont think it can be done
venger.satanis: you have no will. none of us do. machines cannot will anything or anyone.
venger.satanis: all we have are momentary desires.
A: if you dont have a will, then your are a controlled or reaction by something else
venger.satanis: yes, exactly. we are all controlled by our many "I"s, by the universe, we live by accident... not design. we always react to external stimulus. we initiate nothing because we have no will.
A: Everything is connected to everything else, we Co-created"Reality"
venger.satanis: yes, because we are asleep.
venger.satanis: self-remembering is the key.
A: Everything is in influenced by everything else and others I's we are nothing in its self
A: self remembering is all I do, I want to extend out now
A: I got so self involved I imploded
A: really I did, went so far I nested with the similarity beyond space/time
A: now its in my head
venger.satanis: that is good. remembering yourself is where it all begins. but we must also not identify, not express negative emotions, and so forth
venger.satanis: with self-remembering, there are parts of ourselves... our ego, that must disappear. personality must become passive.
A: You sound like your going Vulcan
A: Emotion is the energy
A: POWER
A: but many time I remain neutral
venger.satanis: positive emotion, yes. negative emotions only drain energy, drain power.
A: Iv been accused of being cold at times
venger.satanis: one cannot be conscious and negative at the same time.
A: neutral is the way to deal with tense conflicting situations
venger.satanis: people could think that i am dispassionate or arrogant or something else. however, i am merely expressing the Work.
venger.satanis: and that is the only path to freedom that i know.
A: So, two Cannibals are eating a Clown, one looks at the other and Says;"Does this taste funny to you?"
venger.satanis: nice
A: whats up? How are ya?
venger.satanis: i'm ok
A: Horns up
venger.satanis: what are you up to?
A: Drinking GIN & Tonic witha friend and playing Jazz, getting crazy, Id stayed up for 4 days, but I finally when to bed last night.
A: @-)
venger.satanis: life as usual, eh?
A: =P~
A: Hmmm, I'm not sure what is usual about my life
A: but sometimes there is the same old shit
A: I'm very tired of that that, I'm about to change things
A: I'm thinking about moving
venger.satanis: where to?
Al: dunnno, I chick out west wantas to be with me
A: actually two or 3
A: income taxes come I'm out
A: I got mad as hell and and went off on my family, my
brother and his friends yesterday
A: they are afraid and don't understand my psychic ability, my belifes, and are intimidated. Ignorance
A: I think I burned a bridge there
venger.satanis: if they are the ones who are afraid and ignorant, then why are you the one getting mad and going off on you family/friends?
A: I was tweeked and about Demon possessed, it was pretty intense
A: I did because they was very, rude this is being going on for sometime
venger.satanis: you need to be more conscious. without that we are nothing.
A: Id have been putting up with a lot of shit, and my brother has been bring problems and trouble and very shady people into the house
A: anyway....
A: what are talking about? I was being Conscious very much so, I'm surrounded by people who aren't
venger.satanis: expressing negativity keeps you asleep. self-control is the only way you will be able to effectively interact with the world.
venger.satanis: no, none of us are conscious. that is the essence of the Cthulhu Cult. we are asleep.
A: I have much patience, but I can only tolerate so much
A: sometimes you have to put your foot down
A: Im ready to fight
A: I am awakening from a very long dream, and somethings trying to take control; of me, I don't like that
A: Im trying to be free
venger.satanis: someone who is conscious can put their foot down, or let their will be known, without expressing negative emotions.
venger.satanis: you must be ready to struggle... with your own self.
A: that been going on for sometime
A: you can belive anything about yourself, but then there's everybody else, I have to deal with them
venger.satanis: it must continue. i touch on the 4th way in Cthulhu Cult, the next book will be up on the site in a week and will go deeper into what it means to be asleep and Awake.
A: sometimes I meet very cool folks tho
venger.satanis: all you meet are machines. occasionally these machines are programmed more or less like you, but they are still machines as you are. only by struggling to be conscious can we stop being a machine and become men.
A: Right, that was what I was telling them
venger.satanis: it is all about work on oneself. self-observation, start with that.
A: Dude, I already there, that old news
venger.satanis: but you do not know anyone who is conscious, not completely. this includes you, me, and everyone you encounter.
venger.satanis: you destroy all progress by becoming angry at other machines who don't do as you wish.
A: Hmmm, well no I haven't ever met anything that was perfect
venger.satanis: the CoC is about trying to reach that perfect state.
A: I dont care about control people much, but if they interfere with my will, then get I get pissed
A: I used to take it
A: I dont belive in perfection
Al: I dont think it can be done
venger.satanis: you have no will. none of us do. machines cannot will anything or anyone.
venger.satanis: all we have are momentary desires.
A: if you dont have a will, then your are a controlled or reaction by something else
venger.satanis: yes, exactly. we are all controlled by our many "I"s, by the universe, we live by accident... not design. we always react to external stimulus. we initiate nothing because we have no will.
A: Everything is connected to everything else, we Co-created"Reality"
venger.satanis: yes, because we are asleep.
venger.satanis: self-remembering is the key.
A: Everything is in influenced by everything else and others I's we are nothing in its self
A: self remembering is all I do, I want to extend out now
A: I got so self involved I imploded
A: really I did, went so far I nested with the similarity beyond space/time
A: now its in my head
venger.satanis: that is good. remembering yourself is where it all begins. but we must also not identify, not express negative emotions, and so forth
venger.satanis: with self-remembering, there are parts of ourselves... our ego, that must disappear. personality must become passive.
A: You sound like your going Vulcan
A: Emotion is the energy
A: POWER
A: but many time I remain neutral
venger.satanis: positive emotion, yes. negative emotions only drain energy, drain power.
A: Iv been accused of being cold at times
venger.satanis: one cannot be conscious and negative at the same time.
A: neutral is the way to deal with tense conflicting situations
venger.satanis: people could think that i am dispassionate or arrogant or something else. however, i am merely expressing the Work.
venger.satanis: and that is the only path to freedom that i know.