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Post by Narlool L'Pah on Jan 17, 2009 9:50:50 GMT -6
What techniques or rituals would you suggest for someone trying to increase their personal power?
What I mean by personal power is that inner resolve, that inner drive.
Say for an ex-slave who is used to submitting themselves on the Right hand path.
They wake up, and wish to follow LHP....but need to transform their inner energy.
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Post by mari66 on Jan 19, 2009 23:08:06 GMT -6
What works for me if I want to reach the Dark Gods, two which are the female dieties Lilith and Tiamat, I create a ritual in which I honor their name and call upon their power to me. Their are some good books out there to instruct you on ritual work, but I always feel that writing your own rituals and spells makes it more meaningful than just parroting words that lack feeling for the Mage. The desire for Dark Knowledge is already in your mind, just find a diety that appeals to you and read up on their history. Here is a link to Aleister Crowley's famous book that may give you some guidelines: www.hermetic.com/crowley/aba/
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Post by Narlool L'Pah on Jan 20, 2009 0:09:03 GMT -6
Thank you for responding Mari.
;D
I was beginning to think this was an unpopular topic. lol
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Post by mari66 on Jan 20, 2009 3:24:45 GMT -6
Thank you for responding Mari. ;D I was beginning to think this was an unpopular topic. lol Your welcome, I have been studying the Occult for more than 20 years now, and I just recently have been introduced to the work of Anton La Vey...which in I avoided for years because I believed in the baloney that was written about him. There is always room to learn something new, no matter how well informed you think you really are. My best advise is to read up on Satanic rituals, and see if they appeal to you. The Old Gods like Cthulhu and Tiamat are not for the timid...they stir up waves of change in your sub-conscious mind. A strong WILL is needed in any form of Witchcraft and Ceremonial Magic. Just as Aleister Crowley stated once "Everyman and every woman is a star".....You are one with any deity whether they are considered benign or dark and powerful.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 20, 2009 19:40:09 GMT -6
IMO The 4 th way. This is key and central to almost all aspects of the CoC. No spell, incantation, ritual, pattern by itself will give you that drive. That pure will or the mage, that can hold dominion over the reality of the individual and eventually the reality of those touched by him comes from the desire for it. Which you clearly, otherwise you would not have started this topic The satanic rituals put down in the Satanic bible, or the satanic witch etc. Are excellent building blocks but ultimately you will have to take steps by your own accord, and through your own creativity. There is a few books on the 4 th way you can find for free online as pdf. files. Also this forum has a few threads about it. You may have to sift through some of the old stuff but its worth it. If you question yourself about whether you can achieve these things, then you should probably look back to that drive for power which lead you along here in the first place. The power will come, in many cases you won't be able to see it at the time, but if you look back you will see that in most cases where you wanted clearly and unquestioned it will come. The power and control can only prevail where the will is pure, so do not question your own abilities and be sure of what you want. Again the 4 th way can help you put thing into perspective.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 20, 2009 19:41:20 GMT -6
I hope that helped, and wasn't to rambling and disordered
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Post by Narlool L'Pah on Jan 20, 2009 21:20:06 GMT -6
I hope that helped, and wasn't to rambling and disordered Yes it did thanks. It's good to get constructive opinions than a 'Fuk off noob' response I was kinda fearing. lol I want personal power, but I don't want to go off the deep end like what I've seen in some folks. As I'm 33, I'm a bit past dressing up as a goth and wearing a satanic pendant for shock value. I've never needed to shock others. What I want is to transform my personality so that I never act like a doormat again. I guess we can all relate to that? Even the most full on 4th way walker would have had times in his/her life when they regretted being a doormat.
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 21, 2009 4:50:51 GMT -6
The only way to get full results from the 4th way is to be full on. Not with dressing. The only time i have dressed up is during ritual, which envolves me putting on a robe. Thats about it, the reason some of our members dress goth isn't because they are our members, but because that is the social culture we draw on most, bad or good as that may be it comes to the individual. I usually dress in board shorts and a t-shirt, very ungothic. Being full in the in the occult doesn't mean dressing up, and the people who think that usually use it as nothing but an excuse to and fail to grasp any true worth from our culture.
I doubt youd ever get a fuck off noob reply from anyone here.
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Post by Madguten on Jan 21, 2009 19:05:40 GMT -6
The way i see it, the power is already ones own to begin with, one just needs to learn to open up to it. In my humble view, what many honest-hearted and goodwilled "Right Hand Path" individuals attempt to do is they try to carry the whole world on their shoulders, the crushing measurements of this task are understandably too much for any individual to lift. Instead, i say, we need only learn to carry ourselves because in THERE lies the true key. To know oneself is the key. To understand oneself. So that we can be able to "carry" ourselves. "Carry" is perhaps a bad term, i use it for lack of better words. It is actually like the old saying know your enemy, in this case the "enemy" (dramatic as it sounds, lol) are the factors in yourself that you are unhappy with, if you understand WHY and HOW it happens then you are better equipped to change it. These are just my own thoughts, i can see that you have already gotten a few good responses here in the thread.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Jan 21, 2009 21:31:41 GMT -6
I doubt youd ever get a fuck off noob reply from anyone here. Yes, questions are something that springs up alot in our line of work.
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Post by sol on Jan 24, 2009 22:40:41 GMT -6
cravings for me and passions all bred from physically or chatting about the subjects of controlling others and perfecting self mastery. there are so many different ways you can do it and reading is your main source for finding them. Mine was almost totally about Yoga in many of its forms. for awhile i was doing a full rotation of stances and meditating to the Lateralus CD once a night without pause.
It became too much, you would be suprised how much you begin to crave the grey and normal once you touch the truth that is quite unreal. but once you start to feel and see differently no matter what happens you cannot forget the wonder you felt, the intensity.. and the drive goes on autopilot
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Post by Shaz'rahjeem on Jan 25, 2009 4:50:21 GMT -6
Sometime when i lay in my bed into the early hours of the morning confused, perplexed, continually rolling over something I have read, trying to decipher anything from or reach some conclusive revelation to put my obsession at least temporarily to an end. I wish for ignorant normalcy, fortunatly its not everynight.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Jan 25, 2009 10:58:59 GMT -6
Do the meditation where you visualize and raise the Kundalini Serpent through your Chakras. A serpent of fire. Or visualize two serpents, on red, one black, twisting together rising through your chakras. Practice being able to "see" your chakras, remember the colors, as it will help you see. It doesnt matter how many you choose to visualize, it's up to you. There is a 5 Chakra system and a 7 one. Starting from the base of your spine and up: Root Chakra/Red, the next beneith/around the navel is orange, the next around the solar plexus is yellow, the heart area is green, throat blue, third eye is up to you, but usually violet, and the crown is another that changes, usually white, but I go for a silvery lightning color. Make up your own if you want. Just remember the base and the crown. That's what I do. If you are doing it right you will start to get a tingle in your spine, maybe not the first time, but eventually.. sometimes you get a pressure on your forehead, where the 3rd eye is located. It suppost to raise your Kundalini/Chi/Psi/Lifeforce, making psionics and divination, such as scrying, more powerful and easier to pull off, as well as give you more fuel for your spells. Luciferian Witchcraft is a good book that tells the twin serpent method. Michael Ford has simular goals to our Cult, he just chooses a more infernal path, while ours is more of a balance of Eldritch and Infernal. Also Shaz'rahjeem posted this technique: cocthulhu.proboards105.com/index.cgi?board=all&action=display&thread=1782 I got to the 3rd eye, but my crown still isnt fully open What techniques or rituals would you suggest for someone trying to increase their personal power? What I mean by personal power is that inner resolve, that inner drive. Say for an ex-slave who is used to submitting themselves on the Right hand path. They wake up, and wish to follow LHP....but need to transform their inner energy.
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Post by egodiabolus on Jan 27, 2009 16:04:52 GMT -6
In seeking personal power, I think the best place for you to start is by asking yourself "why". What is it you hope to accomplish? You mention in your question that you have left being a "slave" to the more altruistic paths and have shifted your interest to more pragamatic paths. This seems to me to be a shift in personal perspectives, not personal power. Power is neutral in purpose, is it not? Its benefit or malevolence is determined by how it is used. It seems to me that what you need to to is look at your habits that you feel were developed through your altruistic life that are now in conflict with your pragmatic perspective. You need to take into account what your goals are, then observe yourself (ala Forth Way), becoming more aware of the processes and habits you have that do not serve your new goals. Once you have an understanding of your habits and which habits you wish to diminish, begin being actively on guard against them through trying to maintain your concious awareness of what you do. All the rituals and all the processes in the world will mean nothing without a true shift in perspective and commitment to your new goals. A Christian Priest can go as "evil" as he wants; raping virgins, sacrificing children, indulgind in every fleshy perversion he can imagine. If, at the end of the day he is doing so out of some fear or denial of his Christian God, he is still at worship in his activities, just in a different manner. He didn't change his perspective, only his methods.
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Post by mari66 on Jan 29, 2009 20:31:03 GMT -6
In seeking personal power, I think the best place for you to start is by asking yourself "why". What is it you hope to accomplish? You mention in your question that you have left being a "slave" to the more altruistic paths and have shifted your interest to more pragamatic paths. This seems to me to be a shift in personal perspectives, not personal power. Power is neutral in purpose, is it not? Its benefit or malevolence is determined by how it is used. It seems to me that what you need to to is look at your habits that you feel were developed through your altruistic life that are now in conflict with your pragmatic perspective. You need to take into account what your goals are, then observe yourself (ala Forth Way), becoming more aware of the processes and habits you have that do not serve your new goals. Once you have an understanding of your habits and which habits you wish to diminish, begin being actively on guard against them through trying to maintain your concious awareness of what you do. All the rituals and all the processes in the world will mean nothing without a true shift in perspective and commitment to your new goals. A Christian Priest can go as "evil" as he wants; raping virgins, sacrificing children, indulgind in every fleshy perversion he can imagine. If, at the end of the day he is doing so out of some fear or denial of his Christian God, he is still at worship in his activities, just in a different manner. He didn't change his perspective, only his methods. Very true answer and quite to the heart of the problem. This is one of the reasons why I enjoy dropping by this messageboard, there are so many enlightened souls here to be inspired by and to learn from.
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Post by whatsupable on May 24, 2009 9:24:14 GMT -6
well i have a problem whit selfremembring
i dont know a way to do it i try thinking how i look who i am and "be in the moment' as trying to only think of the here and now and not think about anything else and stop all the i's comming in and try to hold this as long as possible are there other pratical things (workouts) to improve selfawairnes and bieng awaik
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