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Post by iconoclasm on Dec 7, 2007 18:15:09 GMT -6
It seems like if people knew ultimately that they were in control,they would then have to realize they hold responsibility for their actions. Nowadays more than ever,people are running away from responsibility.Gods and devils are the simplest and most primitive escape.
Instead of something occurring because of neglect or human error or human evil (a good example are the results of 9/11),blame the devil.Thats one of the things my parents do continuously to piss me off.Instead of changing a situation or embracing change accept it as god's will.The blind acceptance is in its very core irresponsible and weckless.
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 8, 2007 1:52:02 GMT -6
It is a Satanic concept that self-deceit it permissible so long as it is entered into of ones own will, "but then its not self-deceit!." In the same way a Valkyrie, I do not have an "I love Jesus" bumpersticker on my car either, but I do worship Christ in that i worship myself as Christ. Why the hell not? Everybody in here is Christ, and everybody in here is the devil (I think that point was already made Jesus.) Yes, thanks for pointing that out. That being said, I worship Gods, both as aspects of myself, as philosophical concepts, as metaphysical entities, and spiritual realities; all existing as one and as none simultaneously. How does it work? I don't know. I don't care, i just know it all makes some sort of sense that is beyond (read as "higher than") rationality. I really don't give it much thought, nor do i intendto for it is all comprehensible to my God-Mind (I say these thns not out of pretentiousness). People tend to get hung up on useless complications when they should be using a tool instead of analyzing it needlessly (there are of course times when such analyzation can become appropriate, no doubt, such as when reformation is required). I will go out on a limb and say that i promote the idea of RHP and LHP (not Unity, but) synthesis. They really are one and the same (which would become apparent if you would just let your insanity take hold), like Iconoclasm said before, that maybe the way to reach Satan is by seeking out truth in its antithesis. There is much wisdom in that statement. How many ex-Christians are now Satanists (and the like)? Or consider the number of Christians who are pretty level-headed Satanists in their own right (albeit unknowingly), and some practitioners of "spiritual warfare" could be thought of as Christian magi. Duality was overcome the night this organization was built; the night the mythos were written; the night that the human race was born as the spawn of the Elder Things. The concept of duality is like the concept of time: it is a creation of man which has outgrown its usefulness in this present age. I will end this holy rant and prophecy now, because I would not have my words to fall on deaf ears, and probably some may want to contest me (as if it were possible). Cthulhu be my guide, -H'smack'li.
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 8, 2007 13:17:43 GMT -6
Of course he exists, I have met him numerous times and he is indeed a man of wealth and taste!
And you, H'smack'li, are a most interesting person. You seem to have many things figured out pretty well...
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 8, 2007 14:05:23 GMT -6
Of course he exists, I have met him numerous times and he is indeed a man of wealth and taste! And you, H'smack'li, are a most interesting person. You seem to have many things figured out pretty well... Thank you Takuan. The interesting parts are mostly personality. The future is cold.
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 8, 2007 14:10:23 GMT -6
The future is cold for pretty much all of us, I fear... not knowing your personal future of course. That's one reason why we're so damned good at adapting into new environments, whether physical or mental.
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 8, 2007 18:26:28 GMT -6
yes I agree.
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Post by jasmine on Dec 13, 2007 10:26:49 GMT -6
I guess I don't see the universe as cold at all. Or the future. I find myself confused by the thought of Void being frightening or cold as well. To me the future represents infinite potential. I have all the chances to make my universe what I want it to be. Its up to me to remain conscious and make of it what I Will. I am not trying to disrespect anyone here. I guess I just see it a bit differently. Magic excites me. The idea of the Devil excites me. It all excites me. I want it all.
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 13, 2007 10:43:59 GMT -6
I think I was talking about how I see the near future of our planet. There's a Dark Age coming and I know it. It's only a matter of time. It is not anything to be afraid of, only a period of intense turmoil, chaos, violence and new opportunities on a global scale. From the ashes of this scum-ridden postmodern hellhole of a world will rise a completely different Civilization of Man. The main reason I have not killed myself during my suicidal periods is that I want to observe this change. The other reason is that I haven't had a gun, heroin, barbiturates or some lethal toxin ready. I don't enjoy the idea of physical, painful death. More about the Coming Dark Age: www.darkage.fsnet.co.uk/I'm pretty darn excited about all of this too. Maybe I should have called the future hot instead, that describes it better since it is not cold and still at all (unless we're hit by another ice age).
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Post by jasmine on Dec 13, 2007 12:24:12 GMT -6
Y'know we all have our own perceptions of how we interpret reality. I think that your ideas are just as valid as mine. I guess the difference is minimal.....hot...cold. It matters little. I do like the excitement you all have here about what is going on. I don't think we are headed to a time of troubles. After meditating on some of my last thoughts on this subject....I decided that we are already in it and it has begun. Its just starting to heat up. Time to buckle up and get ready for the ride. I feel like I have been waiting for this forever. I feel more alive than I have felt in ages.
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Post by iconoclasm on Dec 13, 2007 13:24:45 GMT -6
The idea of the devil excites me as well.If the devil were a sexy woman,Id definitely figure out ways to fuck her .Interesting life work
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 13, 2007 14:07:02 GMT -6
I'm not trying to say I know the truth about everything, sorry if it occasionally looks like that. ;D Perhaps we've already been through the worst of it, but I still think the world is heading towards major ecological, political, cultural and military disasters in the future. That might actually be helpful to our cause. I'm not siding with countries or coalitions, I'd like to see a world without such things hindering mankind in any real progress. I'm a citizen of the NSK State if anything - NSK is a real state which issues passports but instead of a geographic location it exists in Time. It is more like state of mind. See for yourself: www.nskstate.com/That is my conception of things which I have mainly gotten from reading news and other "real world" stuff pretty intensely for a few years - not from doomsday prophets, although I've paid some attention to those as well. You have yours which you have received from elsewhere. You may be more right, I may be more right or our views may actually compliment each other if we talk openly about them instead of hastily jumping to conclusions.
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Post by luxcthonis on Dec 14, 2007 3:51:07 GMT -6
Well, when i said the future looked cold (I can not be sure) but I think I may have been talking about my own personal future. If that is the case, then I think it may have been the onset of that first stage of Awakening. I can't explain it....it actually transcends a desire or care about what this world will become (I am A Cultist, therefore a Cthonic Socialist); I do not see this world existing once I am gone (for I will not be here to experience, therefore it will not be there to experience). All rather fucked up, but it is what it is.. I don't even know what I'm tryna say, just don't forget me like you did with menudo.
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 14, 2007 3:53:31 GMT -6
I still kinda get your point though. Cthonic Socialism sounds nice! Cold winds blow atop the mountain all of us must climb.
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Post by jasmine on Dec 15, 2007 0:28:50 GMT -6
You know come to think of it when I really look back in time to when I first really looked at the world though clear eyes, ones that had no blinders to the farce that we say is reality. I almost ended up killing myself. The coldness and the dark almost ate me up. I became the phoenix instead. Continually dying and being reborn. I do remember the cold now and it was quite painful. It was so long ago, I blocked out all memory until yesterday when I was reading this. I think the cold is a first step. The strength it takes to look into it for the first time is hard to come by. Or it was for me. I managed it, but my soul felt flayed and torn. I guess it is the first "little death" of the ego. It was the first step into the void beyond. Thank you for the memory. I will treasure it.
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Post by Yahn'ikthorn on Dec 15, 2007 3:11:03 GMT -6
You're welcome... ego deaths have not exactly been pleasant things for me either.
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