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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 8, 2015 18:07:51 GMT -6
I accept your challenge! Response come soon.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 8, 2015 18:25:19 GMT -6
Condensed Chaos Quote:
"The more value that we place on upholding a particular emotional pattern, the more likely it is that all ambiguous signals will be perceived as supporting it. Evidence which counters it will most likely be overlooked or rationalised into a more malleable form. Conflict arises when dissonance occurrs between desires and existing mental constructs (have you ever feared the strength of your own desires?). To cope with such conflicts, a variety of Defence Mechanism can be adopted:
Though it's not Fourth Way, the first thing which comes to mind after reading this is NLP's concept of distortion (as included in the trifecta of generalization, deletion, and distortion.) Negative emotions and the expression thereof. Tramp-ism, which at it's core is a lack of values. Immature essence. As essence grows it "grows up" (matures). This isn't sublimation. Sublimation is all about energy transfer. Like say there's someone who really, really (quite against your will, BTW) excites you. Sublimation is taking that energy and consciously using it for a different, yet constructive purpose. What this is closer to describing is transference, which is the immature, unconscious and automatic version of sublimation. Justification, rationalization Imagination, identification Why yes, I did.
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Post by Padowan on Apr 8, 2015 18:39:46 GMT -6
I need to come up with more challenges for you.
The last paragraph is what I was concentrating on.
"In classical occult terms I am describing a thought-form, a monster bred from the darker reccesses of mind, fed by psychic energy, clothed in imagination and nurtured by umbilical cords which twist through years of growth. we all have our personal Tunnels of Set; set in our ways through habit and patterns piling on top of each other. The thought-form rides us like a monkey; its tail wrapped firmly about the spine of a self lost to us years ago; an earlier version threshing blindly in a moment of fear, pain, or desire. Thus we are formed; and in a moment of loss we feel the monsters hot breath against our backs, its claws digging into muscle and flesh. we dance to the pull of strings that were woven years ago, and in a lightning flash of insight, or better yet, the gentle admonitions of a friend, we may see the lie; the program. it is first necessary to see that there is a program. To say perhaps, this creature is mine, but not wholly me. What follows then is that the prey becomes the hunter, pulling apart the obsession, naming its parts, searching for fragments of understanding in its entrails. Shrinking it, devouring it, peeling the layers of onion-skin. This is in itself a magick as powerful as any sorcery. Unbinding the knots that we have tied and tangled; sorting out the threads of experience and colour-coding the chains of chance. It may leave us freer, more able to act effectively and less likely to repeat old mistakes. The thing has a chinese puzzle-like nature. We can perceive only the present, and it requires intense sifting through memory to see the scaffolding beneath."
Reading this was like watching my own experience and opening a door at the same time. I saw the ties to the 4th way in Imagination but also self-remembering through self-reflection.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 8, 2015 18:46:35 GMT -6
Personality and false personality.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 8, 2015 23:34:35 GMT -6
I read your last quote a bit more carefully and you're right -- that's the Fourth Way in a nutshell - individuation. Kudos. This also kinda means you're stuck on the road. Ordinary life is no longer possible for you. Congratulations, and sucks to be you, both -- at the same time.
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Post by Padowan on Apr 9, 2015 18:05:32 GMT -6
I know. Ordinary life is like a bad dream.
More the reason to stay in touch with people on the same path.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 11, 2015 2:58:10 GMT -6
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Post by Padowan on Apr 11, 2015 4:06:16 GMT -6
As opposed to this?
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 11, 2015 5:05:52 GMT -6
Heh Yeah... I wonder if he's poisoning them.
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