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Post by Padowan on Mar 31, 2015 19:55:45 GMT -6
As a beginner in magic I'd like to start here, as this is where I was first successful but I have forgotten this work for some time. I will be journaling my successes if anyone would like to tag along.
I have had a recent lucid dream I induced by will the morning before my evening sleep. I have had no instruction. This was just will, imagination and spoken intent. I wished to meet a certain individual in my dream to have a discussion. While in the shower, a place in which I have many creative strokes of thought, I willed the person, the scene, the furniture, and even his clothing. That evening, I was in mid-dream and became instantly lucid as I saw him appear at the table I had imagined.
In the past I have 'awakened' mid-dream and was able to control and direct the dreams. Just today, I became lucid upon realizing a ridiculous nature of the scene in my dream. Once I realized the 'impossibility' I saw before me I instantly knew I was dreaming and was lucid.
Information for getting started:
Part 1: disinfo.com/2012/11/life-is-but-a-dream/
Part 2: disinfo.com/2012/11/living-the-dream/
Part 3: disinfo.com/2012/11/dreams-without-nightmares-hygeine-for-our-souls/
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 1, 2015 2:03:25 GMT -6
I've read them. Give me a few days to get caught up on everything and I'll replicate.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 1, 2015 9:05:47 GMT -6
Naus.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 14:32:53 GMT -6
You said : "If your aim is to be as Awake as possible then shouldn't that apply to all aspects of your life?"
Well, that's an idea, but wile sleeping you cannot be as conscious as you are when physically awake and making efforts. There is a threshold in awareness to reach in order to influence "ordinary reality", and to be in touch with a higher reality.
I doubt it is possible to reach that level when physically sleeping.
Note that I have nothing against exploring lucid dreaming, and that I admit I know little about it. If you prove me I'm wrong, I will thank you !
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Post by Padowan on Apr 1, 2015 14:59:16 GMT -6
Well then, I'm all for increasing your gratitude.
I have had limited experiences with lucid dreaming, but the moments of clearest consciousness allowed me to experience the power of my thoughts. For example; upon one dreaming episode I was watching TV on the floor. The house was completely dark and the only light was from the glare of the TV screen. I became aware I was in a dream and due to fear I proceeded to concoct a vivid nightmare. A small child, infant-like, walked into the room as well as any adult body and the oddity of it heightened my fear. I ran away screaming, found my sleeping body on a bed in front of me, and proceeded to jump upon myself until waking.
At another time I remember my sudden lucidity and began to feel fear and stopped myself. I literally changed the outcome of my dream but it was a battle. The reason gaining conscious control over your dreams is so difficult is because your surroundings are instantaneously connected to your thoughts. EVERY thought matters at the precise moment you have the thought.
Think a demon - you have one. Think sex - you'll be having it. Feel fear - your surrounding become ominous. Believe you can fly - you'll float uncontrollably.
You have to control your thoughts before you have them. It is most difficult but it is achievable. YOU have to direct your thoughts and control your emotions or the dream will get away from you. The dream is the reflection of your mind. Every action is a conscious action, even walking or moving your arm. Every scene is a conscious imagining. It is powerful but hard to control.
I can't help but believe harnessing this difficult self control will carry over into the Awake world with greater clarity of oneself.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 2, 2015 1:19:55 GMT -6
It's a part of the training for stopping negative emotions in the Fourth Way, so you're right.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 2, 2015 1:22:00 GMT -6
And there's a Star Trek episode relevant to this. Not sure what it's name is but it's the first appearance of The Traveler.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Apr 2, 2015 3:14:00 GMT -6
So... about the Dreaming path. Back in the old set up a Cultist had to choose between three paths -- Fourth Way, Satanic and Dreaming. With the exception of Sin, who's official choice was Satanic yet was into self-hypnosis through a kind of tribal dance thing, nobody's explored the Dreaming path until now. My point is only that the Dreaming path was originally intended to be a path a Cultist could take and it's not completely without precedent. (Wrong word, but you know what I mean, it's not entirely new.) On the other hand, Yrreight has the right idea -- to know, you have to verify, and not having done it himself he's skeptical but willing to be proven wrong. Kudos given. We require the skeptical attitude around here, not the judgemental one. The skeptical attitude 'dances with doubt' yet at the same time looks for verifiable merit. The judgemental one simply thinks that everyone who doesn't think the way they do is full of shit, end of story. So, not is everything all good, I'm kind of proud about how EVERYONE is going about this.
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Post by Padowan on Apr 2, 2015 6:51:07 GMT -6
I encourage other people's skepticism in the validity of my actions. It requires me to extrapolate, clarify and concisely explain the process, which increases my own awareness in myself and what and why I'm doing it. In other words, it benefits me. I welcome doubters.
Verifiable results are obtainable but only observable by oneself.
One possible result: If you gain the ability to snap yourself into consciousness while asleep and dreaming it increases your instances of self remembering in the non-dreaming world. And vice versa.
At the very least, if you seek full Awareness why waste 8 hours every night asleep? Utilize all forms of sleep states to learn to self remember and gain greater consciousness.
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Post by Padowan on Apr 2, 2015 15:36:29 GMT -6
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Post by Padowan on Apr 2, 2015 15:38:04 GMT -6
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Post by Padowan on Apr 2, 2015 15:59:31 GMT -6
I'm beginning to see a pattern.
Could it be that Lovecraft's dark Abyss is not the great depths of the ocean but the depths of his own mind?
Lovecraft: "When Randolph Carter was thirty he lost the key of the gate of dreams."
"Randolph Carter is a recurring fictional character in H. P. Lovecraft's fiction and is, presumably, an alter ego of Lovecraft himself. The character first appears in "The Statement of Randolph Carter", a short story Lovecraft wrote in 1919 based on one of his dreams." Wikipedia
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Post by Padowan on Apr 6, 2015 14:04:43 GMT -6
Lucid Dream Log continued:
Magic in a Lucid Dream
I am not familiar with Voodoo and have never educated myself on any part of it.
Still I had a vivid dream last night of a Voodoo doll I created and was inadvertently found by a person in my dream. The doll was made of deep red and dark purple yarn (I knit) and it was large. ~3 feet tall. She harbored an evil expression and gave me an unnerving feeling. By the reactions by bystanders in my dream I was made to feel a bit of shame at owning such a doll.
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