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Post by Padowan on Mar 27, 2015 7:12:49 GMT -6
For the more NLP experienced: What elements of NLP, if any, are contained within this song (video aside.)
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Post by shawnhartnell on Mar 28, 2015 1:40:29 GMT -6
Well, first of all it's a song. Songs are naturally hypnotic and humans have been syncing to it since they could pound in a log to make a drumming sound. The first thing I notice in the lyrics is the use of 'never'. This a universal quantifier. This is kinda future pacing: "The end, the end Everyone will go away In the end, the end Everything will go" Again, I just noticed, using two universal quantifiers. That was a quick scan. What did you find?
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Post by Padowan on Mar 28, 2015 5:31:57 GMT -6
First, this song intruded into my dreams. It tapped into my subconscious.
'On the long way down'
That just doesn't sound right. It throws off the listener. What are you 'on'? The Way? It is also a hypnotic suggestion, said over and over. Inducing deeper trance, possibly.
The tonality has a hypnotic resonance as well.
Two different phrases were interjected saying two different things, spaced apart by other lyrics.
The end, the end Things will never go our way In the end, the end Things will never go
Later:
The end, the end Every one will go away In the end, the end Everything will go
It's as though you are believing the second if you believed the first. Overall, the song is against Catholicism and a Savior. The spacing/pauses in the lyrics makes me feel there are hidden suggestions.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Mar 28, 2015 6:20:49 GMT -6
Intrude how?
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Post by Padowan on Mar 28, 2015 8:52:44 GMT -6
Repetition of these lines:
The end, the end Things will never go our way In the end, the end Things will never go
The end, the end Every one will go away In the end, the end Everything will go
The song played during and throughout the dream. Especially pronounced upon waking.
Intrude?
I think that was an afterthought descriptive. It's surfacing uncomfortable feelings consciously. During the dream is was not unpleasant and more mental depth was involved.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Mar 28, 2015 10:03:34 GMT -6
Those lyrics are about as fatalistic as you can get. I think it was Nicol who talked about 'the songs we sing to ourselves' in relation to the Fourth Way. Essentially, if someone was telling themselves that all the time, that would be the 'song they sung' -- and in this case it seems to be a funeral dirge. Cheer up, emo kid. It can't rain all the time.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Mar 28, 2015 10:14:30 GMT -6
Almost forgot. The Shatnerian pauses in hypnotic pattern is essentially to increase the amount attention the hypnoticee gives the hypnotists voice.
Everytime ... that I ... pause a bit ... your brain ... concentrates it's ... attention ... a bit more ... because even though ... there's no static ... in my signal ... and you can ... hear me clearly ... the pauses ... make my signal ... a signal ... you have to pay attention to ... in order to ... make sense out of it.
There's also a rhythm thing to it that I've never mastered. From what I've been able to determine, the rhythm is to help sync ... just like a song, or marching to a drumbeat.
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