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Post by cortwilliams on Oct 18, 2012 9:55:58 GMT -6
To be a whirlwind, uprooted and uprooting, an unsettled vortex which disturbs the dust, for all is dust but the wind that disturbs it-Yea, to be a whirlwind of the darkly divine is to be most disturbing.
To be an outcast, in this world but not of it: A terrible burden to bear, an utmost loneliness. Iblis bows down before no other than his beloved, and is cursed for his uncompromising devotion to the absolute. He bears his curse with pride, for it is a mark of his devotion.
To wander in the shifting sands of the desert without hope of remittance from self-chosen exile-Beware, ye would-be holy men, the path of the holy sinner is not for the faint of heart!
Hail Satanis! Cort Williams
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Post by sin on Oct 19, 2012 8:02:00 GMT -6
It's a beautiful piece, and the message appears clear to me, but I'm having trouble with this portion:
Is it always a burden to be outcasted from inclusion? How lonely is solitude really?
I find it nearly impossible to be completely alone in this world, especially when you have the company of self. Even if you wandered the streets with a scarlet letter pinned to your breast, you are not alone. The shadows always follow.
CS
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Post by cortwilliams on Oct 19, 2012 11:58:54 GMT -6
Thanks Master Cora'Sahn Yes, I agree that solitude does not have to be lonely, that it is possible to find solace within the self. The flip-side of this coin, for me, is the notion that solitude/separation is a sort of self-willed exile, a sort of monastic devotion to the One Beloved, withdrawing in order to feel love all the more keenly(absence makes the heart grow fonder, parting is such sweet sorrow et al). Below is a quote which outlines a view of Iblis(a figure from Islamic myth roughly equivalent to Lucifer or Satan, a rebel angel who was punished for refusing to bow down to man) in antinomian Sufi thought, wherein the rebellion of Iblis is seen as a sort of model of paradoxical piety: "Iblis is said to have a special kind of link to the absolute. This is due to the idea that he is the first model for the separate "I-consciousness" independent of the Absolute. So in a way, Iblis disobeyed Allah for the sake of love and for the sake of his loyalty to his One Beloved(the Absolute). He is cursed and punished for his disobedience-but even in this he takes satisfaction at being separated out for unique treatment by the Absolute."(Lords of the Left-Hand Path, page 67)
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Post by cortwilliams on Oct 19, 2012 23:37:31 GMT -6
Indeed, even in solitude, we are never completely alone. But the converse is also true: We are always alone. Alienation is arguably part and parcel of the human condition-But this need not be a strictly negative phenomenon. Desire is a powerful engine. From loneliness comes a desire to connect, to create, to articulate, to share, to become.
To go geeky for a second, a quote from the show Firefly.
Inara Serra: You don't have to die alone, Mal Mal: Everyone dies alone.
Hail Satanis! Cort
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Post by sin on Oct 21, 2012 7:10:32 GMT -6
I'm familiar with Iblis as an archetype. In some regard, there was a struggle to spark such a notion, for if Iblis was not in agreement at one time, there would be no need to counter the agreement to bow.
A demiurge is sometimes necessary to teach lessons in a new way when stating it plainly doesn't stick. Think about all the 'LaVeyans' running around trying to emulate LaVey or follow 'HIS' word to the letter. Even when he stated plainly: "Don't follow me, find your own way."
I'm not sure if you are familiar with the Society of Dark Lily (defunct) but there's a quote I've always liked, been in my fridge for years:
"We are born in darkness, and leave this world in darkness. It is in darkness that man finds his immortality" -SoDL
It was part of an essay that discussed the illumination of realization of self.
It begins in the womb and carries the reader to the time of death. Everything in between is just alignment. Not much different than a lot of the writing issued by the Order of Nine Angles. A series of a alignments during your life that bring you to an epoch.
We zig zag all over the place, aligning with people and ideas but in each step we take it is to satisfy the self. What it wants, what it needs, how it can be easily deluded into believing that what it wants is that of the self alone; when in reality human beings can be impressed upon rather easily.
Observe any child, and they are like little mocking birds. Their independence and struggle with it is classified as something uniquely adolescent. I think we struggle for it the duration of our lives.
In some regard memetics can be viewed as God imposing its wants and needs on each person, and we each have to decide if the impressions are needful, wantful and useful.
A recent example I can think of, is the continued focus on politics. I was shopping the other day and every single TV set was on, and discussing the Romney statements of gender focus. All of the news casters were discussing how each candidate has to win over women, or fill in the gap of female voters for the win. It's enough to make you shake your head. I swear, its some weird campaign divination through over-analysis of stats. I can certainly understand why so many people throw their hands up, and don't vote.
The non-voters are otherized as either shirking personal responsibility or being labeled anarchists. We each walk alone, but we also impress ourselves upon others. You can have your shields up, but you'll be impressed upon no matter what you do. You are bombarded with influences with every zig and zag. Even by what you read. I can find a myriad of concepts I disagree with in "Lords of the Left hand Path" but in disagreeing it is mental exercise we each go through with a shadow looming. In some cases, in bowing to no man you bow regardless because things have a tendency to come full circle.
CS
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Post by glade on Oct 29, 2012 7:20:13 GMT -6
I find it truly hard to walk alone. To be seprate and apart from the chaos. There is always someone, group, organization, that is always wanting you to live and behave their way. I'm afraid if you don't bend a litte you will be starved out and die. I find myself giving in to the "others" at times.
AWAKE
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Post by glade on Oct 29, 2012 7:42:30 GMT -6
When I said starved out and die, I meant that for myself and not directed at the topic originator or to Preistess CS. I was speaking it more directed at me. Sorry for the misunderstanding in advance.
AWAKE
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Post by sin on Oct 29, 2012 8:45:46 GMT -6
When I said starved out and die, I meant that for myself and not directed at the topic originator or to Preistess CS. I was speaking it more directed at me. Sorry for the misunderstanding in advance. AWAKE
I understood your meaning. This is the burden of compromise. If you revel for the sake of reveling alone, or live in chaos all the time, it may be the very thing making you feel isolated. In chaos, things organize for a time. A reason or a season. It may take bending to the will of others at times, but if you bend the reed too far, it can snap.
It's finding the level. What can you tolerate? What do you find intolerable and why? Find some way to exist within but not being assimilated completely like a drone in a borg cube. <- Star Trek reference
CS
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Post by cortwilliams on Oct 29, 2012 10:21:08 GMT -6
Understood Glade-And no offense would have been taken even if you had been referring to me After all, that is one of the quandaries which this poem is speaking of to some extent: Uncompromising passion, like all things, has its price(even if this price is just an "opportunity cost" in economic jargon)-And one form this price can take is isolation or loneliness. @master Cora'Sahn: Love the Star Trek reference
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Post by sin on Oct 30, 2012 9:22:53 GMT -6
I'd like to organize some of your most recent posts into a essay (with your permission). If you had to pick your top 5 posts, which would you choose?
I'll publish it in the Green Trap.
CS
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Post by cortwilliams on Oct 30, 2012 14:43:02 GMT -6
An intriguing notion, I am honored! I am open to such an idea, though I am uncertain to what extent my little poems and mini-essays could be transformed into a coherent essay. Top 5 posts? Hmm, I'm not sure I'm the best judge. Well, my first post "Black Magic and Satanism" is probably the most comprehensive introduction to my nutty brand of Satanic gnosis. I am also rather fond of the two poems and one short quote I've already submitted to the zine. Other than that, I don't know-I guess I do like "Anarchic Antichrist", though that's perhaps because it is recent. I also like "Titanic Satanism" and "Meditations on the Black Adept".
If you do go ahead with this, I wouldn't mind taking a look at it before it goes to press, thanks again for thinking of me Master Cora'Sahn!
Hail Satanis! Cort
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Post by sin on Oct 30, 2012 15:37:31 GMT -6
An intriguing notion, I am honored! I am open to such an idea, though I am uncertain to what extent my little poems and mini-essays could be transformed into a coherent essay. Top 5 posts? Hmm, I'm not sure I'm the best judge. Well, my first post "Black Magic and Satanism" is probably the most comprehensive introduction to my nutty brand of Satanic gnosis. I am also rather fond of the two poems and one short quote I've already submitted to the zine. Other than that, I don't know-I guess I do like "Anarchic Antichrist", though that's perhaps because it is recent. I also like "Titanic Satanism" and "Meditations on the Black Adept". If you do go ahead with this, I wouldn't mind taking a look at it before it goes to press, thanks again for thinking of me Master Cora'Sahn! Hail Satanis! Cort
Ok, I'll have a look. I'll send it to you in PM before it gets put into the newsletter.
Thanks!
CS
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Post by sin on Oct 30, 2012 15:51:47 GMT -6
Now, I'm hunting all over the place for these posts. Can you drop me some links?
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Post by cortwilliams on Oct 30, 2012 22:32:17 GMT -6
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Post by sin on Nov 1, 2012 5:40:51 GMT -6
These were very wise selections. I think your way of conveying notions holds a lot of inspiration in thought and contemplation.
Hopefully, we will get some decent reviews of this issue. I'd really like to publish a few in the next issue.
Let me know what you think, and if you catch any errors. I am not infallible.
CS
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Post by cortwilliams on Nov 1, 2012 10:22:07 GMT -6
Thanks for the kind words Master Cora'Sahn! The issue likes great, neat to see my little writings in a professional-looking newsletter. I really like the artwork that accompanies "Emergence of the Tower God" especially.
Hail Satanis! Cort
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Post by sin on Nov 1, 2012 20:48:33 GMT -6
My pleasure. I'm glad you like it. I liked that image a lot myself.
CS
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