Post by lokidreaming on Sept 23, 2012 15:07:02 GMT -6
Does everyone want to be Awake?
Does everyone want to break free from their prisons?
I do believe there are more people who are trying to break free from their prisons and trying to awaken than most people acknowledge or give them credit for; as I see this all around me (even more as I grow older).
Just because they are not breaking free and trying to awaken a certain desired way aka due to certain belief systems way of interpretation and implementations (of breaking out of prison and awakening) does not mean they are still in prison and asleep.*
This is one of the major sore points I have with all belief systems.
*The person in this position sees the terminology of breaking out or prison and awakening in different terminologies and analogies and for the obvious reason that they do not know the 4th Way system and its terminologies.
eg, I am putting away childish toys and being a man, I am becoming a wise wolf, if only they could see how immature they are and was I that immature at the age; Different terminologies and analogies from the 4th Way but achieved the same awakened state.
We must acknowledge that these people are trying to break out and awaken, even though they are not breaking and awaken to certain desired ways and methods.
After we acknowledge them in these endeavours, we must let them find their own way and learn via their own trials and tribulations as if we interfere we may confuse them therefore impede their escape to freedom.
These include imposing our own way and standards of escaping to freedom and it is crucial that we must be a neutral observer regardless of our own beliefs and ways of doing.
However a little shove in the right direction may be needed from to time to point the escapee in the right direction to minimize disruptions from the escapee.
One size does not fit all and therefore also the seeking escapee should be wary when escaping that a fellow escapee’s method may not work for them.
Breaking out of prison and awakening is a natural cycle of life/a rite of passage which every belief system forgets to factor in and just erroneously labels those not on their path as _______ and therefore they don’t know what freedom is (and in how to break out) and will only know if they do a lot of work and study via their system of doing of attaining in these objectives.
What utter BS nonsense!!!
i.e.
The older a person is, the more that person should be able to see people trying to awake and break free from their prisons and see the areas of life where that person has been successful or not successful in due to their own experiences in breaking free and awakening via their own accumulated life experiences up to that date.
Those who are in their late 20’s and early 30’s should have started/be starting to be that older person mentioned above (if not, they are comfortable in their own prison and must not be disturbed and awakened), those younger than late 20’s only have glimpses of the freedom ahead of them as they have not accumulated enough life experiences to truly know what freedom is and how to attain it.
Therefore most people eventually do and try breakout of prison and awake, but most are blind to their struggles due to their own prejudices, elitism and otherisations of them.
E.g., You are repenting, but are not really repenting, due to you are not repenting the Catholic Way.
Telling people they are not really a true seeker due to they are not doing it the correct (believe system) ways is disastrous and destructive for that individual seeker/escapee that is escaping or just has escaped.
People can instinctively know how to break out of their prison and awaken, but keep on failing due to people telling them it is the wrong way, wrong method, dangerous and to try means that you are a bad person and etc .
They do not necessary need to see others break out and/or be informed that they need to break out of prison as most have a natural instinct humming and drumming away at them that they need to start breaking out.
This also can be another naturally accruing rite of passage.
Also, people tend to have a natural instinct of their true being and essence since they were a kid but once again get befuddled due to others interference.
Therefore they know what their being and essence is from the start, but work and study helps them to remember, pinpoint and nurture and grown these areas of work.
However, one must find out the comprehension and knowledge of that seeker desiring to start work and study before making judgement calls on the adeptness of the seeker especially if that seeker has lots of experience as a seeker under their belt.
The beginning of ones break out and awakening is mostly naturally occurring, but it is the observations of those who have already broken and awaken which gives the strugglers clues on to how to break out completely and glimpse to what true freedom can be like. These can be seen as A,B,C, influences forming slowly over time to create a magnetic center which might then in turn act as the final push to freedom the seeker seeks and it is mostly right to just observe this seeker struggling than confusing the seeker with advice and suggestions on how to break out.
Another aspect of How Awake is some seekers are just happy to be man 4, man 5, or man 6 and have no desire to move up and progress.
Some observers will look down and shake their heads and may even try and convince these people to progress forward.
One should not push these people forward along as most of the time the one pushing the other seeker along in this situation is imposing their way(s) on the seeker, it is up to the seeker in this situation whether they want to progress further or not.
If the seeker does not want to move forward, one must acknowledge this and figure out how best to accommodate and incorporate this person instead of casting them away and/or saying to other seekers do not be like them because….
However that seeker must be tested from time to time to make sure that they are progressing/not progressing the right way due to erroneous reasons eg, fear and doubt.
I said one should not push these seekers forward and now I am recommending in a way you should?
Sometimes a seeker needs a friendly shove in the right direction.
Sometimes I wonder how many escapees have stopped escaping and gone back to their prison cells due to the way certain belief system have handled the escapee prison breaks or desires to break free.
I would speculate that it is too many to count.
Belief IS Reality
Loki Dreaming
Does everyone want to break free from their prisons?
I do believe there are more people who are trying to break free from their prisons and trying to awaken than most people acknowledge or give them credit for; as I see this all around me (even more as I grow older).
Just because they are not breaking free and trying to awaken a certain desired way aka due to certain belief systems way of interpretation and implementations (of breaking out of prison and awakening) does not mean they are still in prison and asleep.*
This is one of the major sore points I have with all belief systems.
*The person in this position sees the terminology of breaking out or prison and awakening in different terminologies and analogies and for the obvious reason that they do not know the 4th Way system and its terminologies.
eg, I am putting away childish toys and being a man, I am becoming a wise wolf, if only they could see how immature they are and was I that immature at the age; Different terminologies and analogies from the 4th Way but achieved the same awakened state.
We must acknowledge that these people are trying to break out and awaken, even though they are not breaking and awaken to certain desired ways and methods.
After we acknowledge them in these endeavours, we must let them find their own way and learn via their own trials and tribulations as if we interfere we may confuse them therefore impede their escape to freedom.
These include imposing our own way and standards of escaping to freedom and it is crucial that we must be a neutral observer regardless of our own beliefs and ways of doing.
However a little shove in the right direction may be needed from to time to point the escapee in the right direction to minimize disruptions from the escapee.
One size does not fit all and therefore also the seeking escapee should be wary when escaping that a fellow escapee’s method may not work for them.
Breaking out of prison and awakening is a natural cycle of life/a rite of passage which every belief system forgets to factor in and just erroneously labels those not on their path as _______ and therefore they don’t know what freedom is (and in how to break out) and will only know if they do a lot of work and study via their system of doing of attaining in these objectives.
What utter BS nonsense!!!
i.e.
The older a person is, the more that person should be able to see people trying to awake and break free from their prisons and see the areas of life where that person has been successful or not successful in due to their own experiences in breaking free and awakening via their own accumulated life experiences up to that date.
Those who are in their late 20’s and early 30’s should have started/be starting to be that older person mentioned above (if not, they are comfortable in their own prison and must not be disturbed and awakened), those younger than late 20’s only have glimpses of the freedom ahead of them as they have not accumulated enough life experiences to truly know what freedom is and how to attain it.
Therefore most people eventually do and try breakout of prison and awake, but most are blind to their struggles due to their own prejudices, elitism and otherisations of them.
E.g., You are repenting, but are not really repenting, due to you are not repenting the Catholic Way.
Telling people they are not really a true seeker due to they are not doing it the correct (believe system) ways is disastrous and destructive for that individual seeker/escapee that is escaping or just has escaped.
People can instinctively know how to break out of their prison and awaken, but keep on failing due to people telling them it is the wrong way, wrong method, dangerous and to try means that you are a bad person and etc .
They do not necessary need to see others break out and/or be informed that they need to break out of prison as most have a natural instinct humming and drumming away at them that they need to start breaking out.
This also can be another naturally accruing rite of passage.
Also, people tend to have a natural instinct of their true being and essence since they were a kid but once again get befuddled due to others interference.
Therefore they know what their being and essence is from the start, but work and study helps them to remember, pinpoint and nurture and grown these areas of work.
However, one must find out the comprehension and knowledge of that seeker desiring to start work and study before making judgement calls on the adeptness of the seeker especially if that seeker has lots of experience as a seeker under their belt.
The beginning of ones break out and awakening is mostly naturally occurring, but it is the observations of those who have already broken and awaken which gives the strugglers clues on to how to break out completely and glimpse to what true freedom can be like. These can be seen as A,B,C, influences forming slowly over time to create a magnetic center which might then in turn act as the final push to freedom the seeker seeks and it is mostly right to just observe this seeker struggling than confusing the seeker with advice and suggestions on how to break out.
Another aspect of How Awake is some seekers are just happy to be man 4, man 5, or man 6 and have no desire to move up and progress.
Some observers will look down and shake their heads and may even try and convince these people to progress forward.
One should not push these people forward along as most of the time the one pushing the other seeker along in this situation is imposing their way(s) on the seeker, it is up to the seeker in this situation whether they want to progress further or not.
If the seeker does not want to move forward, one must acknowledge this and figure out how best to accommodate and incorporate this person instead of casting them away and/or saying to other seekers do not be like them because….
However that seeker must be tested from time to time to make sure that they are progressing/not progressing the right way due to erroneous reasons eg, fear and doubt.
I said one should not push these seekers forward and now I am recommending in a way you should?
Sometimes a seeker needs a friendly shove in the right direction.
Sometimes I wonder how many escapees have stopped escaping and gone back to their prison cells due to the way certain belief system have handled the escapee prison breaks or desires to break free.
I would speculate that it is too many to count.
Belief IS Reality
Loki Dreaming