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Post by lokidreaming on Jul 24, 2012 18:21:30 GMT -6
Can a leopard change its spots=can one eradicate selfishness?
To try and eradicate selfishness is foolish since everyone is naturally selfish.
To deny/ignore this fact one is selfish signals that the person is still struggling to find a balance a balance with their own selfishness.
To do a good deed to make up for ones selfishness (eg, wipe the slate clean, balance the book)* also signals the person is still struggling to find a balance with there own selfishness.
One of the only options left to the individual is to embrace their selfishness rather than to deny/ignore/atone for it, as it is more healthy and beneficial in the long run.
So what is your game plan?
How are you going to turn being selfishness etc into a positive? Have you explored positive selfishness and negative selfishness?
How are you going to turn being selfishness etc into a positive; selfishness that benefits others and yourself as opposed to negative selfishness which is harmful to you and others.
Belief IS Reality Loki Dreaming
*Trying to wipe the slate clean/balance the book only cures the symptoms of selfishness temporarily and not tackle the true source of selfishness and this act to trying to wipe the slate clean is the individual way of kidding themselves/lulling themselves into a false sense of righteousness.
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Post by shawnhartnell on Jul 24, 2012 22:07:55 GMT -6
Are you a good witch or a bad witch?
Are you a selfish leopard or an unselfish leopard?
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Post by lokidreaming on Aug 7, 2012 20:59:41 GMT -6
@shawn, Once again, ? and um, your response is what I find hmm mm and first assumption is that you have only scratched the surface knowledge of selfishness, if I come across like I am judging you, um sorry . Does anybody understand what I am getting here by this post? LD
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 8, 2012 0:50:14 GMT -6
First, I think you're doing great in reconciling opposites. With that said...
What I was originally saying is that selfishness and unselfishness are just concepts. They only apply to you as you choose, or as you mechanically react to shoehorn yourself to fit those concepts.
Who said a leopard has to change his spots? What great power made it so that one should eradicate selfishness? You did.
Another way to look at this is to see that both of these words are static adjectives used to describe a noun (you). You could try to be less selfish, but to figure out what that means you have to use your imagination. The terms contain nothing pragmatic.
I know you're breaking this kind of cultural hangup by reconciling the opposites. Eventually you'll simply be able to see things like this for what they are and drop them like useless baggage.
In this case, I'm told I'm an altruistic person, but I'm just doing what I want to do. Selfish / altruistic, really have no meaning to me in the conventional sense.
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Post by lokidreaming on Aug 8, 2012 21:16:54 GMT -6
@shawn,
Your original response to this made me so BEEPING MAD!!!!!
Your response is one of the few responses so far on my path that got me completely BEEPING MAD!!!!
I strongly suspected you were provoking me in to a reaction.
That is why I took so long to respond back!!!!!!
I was in so much agony going through this post of mine and trying to figure out if I was right/on the right path or you were just scratching the surface knowledge of selfishness and interpreting and implementing it in all the wrong ways like the other post modern satanists.
As I said on the other site, if you did intend to provoke me into a reaction, well it bloody worked!!!
I had to remember myself very very very hard and not to express any negative reactions towards you, which in hindsight I am now regretting lol...just joking!!!
In turn I had to come up with a constructive response to your response.
This experience and other similar and related experience has helped me believe in my own experiences of GNOSIS and to trust in them.
One way of practicing this was getting ready to fight you tooth and nail on this!!!
That is one of the main reasons I checked the COC pro-board forums today.
Very gutted and disappointed at my missed oppotunity.
SIGH
Very impressed with your subtle innocuous needling skills. It is very hard to impress in this area.
LD
ps:- @cs @vs
I do really have to take the high road and forgive Shawn?
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Post by lokidreaming on Aug 8, 2012 21:27:52 GMT -6
First, I think you're doing great in reconciling opposites. With that said... What I was originally saying is that selfishness and unselfishness are just concepts. They only apply to you as you choose, or as you mechanically react to shoehorn yourself to fit those concepts. Who said a leopard has to change his spots? What great power made it so that one should eradicate selfishness? You did. Another way to look at this is to see that both of these words are static adjectives used to describe a noun (you). You could try to be less selfish, but to figure out what that means you have to use your imagination. The terms contain nothing pragmatic. I know you're breaking this kind of cultural hangup by reconciling the opposites. Eventually you'll simply be able to see things like this for what they are and drop them like useless baggage. In this case, I'm told I'm an altruistic person, but I'm just doing what I want to do. Selfish / altruistic, really have no meaning to me in the conventional sense. Finally!!! This was the reality check/cross reference response post I was waiting for to gauge how much more work I needed to do in this area. Learning to see things for what they are is the stage where I am now. I am doing great at reconciling the two opposites? Cheers for the props; I see my journey in this area as the start of immersing myself in the deep end of this GNOSIS therefore I am still a newbie/beginner int his area and got a long way to go yet. LD
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 9, 2012 17:09:11 GMT -6
On Thinking For Yourself, Commentaries Vol 4,
"Now all reconciliation of the opposites depends on individual thinking from yourself. Let us say that my Papa says to me: "Never shake hands with a person who does not believe in God." Suppose I remain under the psychological orientation of what Papa told me, I would always tend not to shake hands with a man who does not believe in God. On the other hand, I may tend only to shake hands with those who do not believe in God. But do you not see that it is the same thing? It is still the opposites because I have not begun to think for myself about the whole question. Suppose suddenly that after a certain time I have a moment of illumination and I say: "What am I doing? What does it mean, a person who believes in God or who does not?" This is the beginning of the Work acting on me. And this makes a difference in your relationship to other people. You cannot get an expansion of consciousness as long as you are in the acquired opposites. A person is neither good nor bad, nor am I. Once you can see this in yourself, then in your relationship to other people, you begin to find a Third Force, a way of taking people and yourself as not being wholly evil or wholly good."
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Post by sin on Aug 9, 2012 18:50:04 GMT -6
I'd say, Shawn is being an effective provocateur here. Should you forgive him for throwing a monkey wrench in your mechanical way of thinking? How else would you come to any revelation about yourself, and thus become more self aware?
I'd say, you should thank him.
Just my opinion of course. Take it as you will.
CS
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Post by lokidreaming on Aug 11, 2012 21:10:01 GMT -6
Points taken aboard and I shall forgive Shawn for now LOL LD ps:- shawn's catalyst was at the tail end of a few months of anguish or indirectly related matters.
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