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Post by shawnhartnell on Jul 20, 2012 15:17:54 GMT -6
Pwning is a contest of consciousness vs. mechanical thought where only consciousness can win or lose over mechanical thought. If this is understood, it can be seen that all contestants in a game of pwning win or lose together, never one or the other.
The goal of the initiatior of the pwn game is to demonstrate that he understands a thesis or concept at the level of being, or at least well enough that he understands it in a fully conscious way. If he is unable to do this, he will learn where he has been mechanical in his thinking and has increased his consciousness. If he is successful, he again has increased his consciousness from the effort of defending his thesis.
The goal of the adversary of the pwn game is to detect mechanical thinking in the thesis of the initiator. Win or lose, he learns ever better ways of detecting the mechanical thinking of others and in himself.
The ability of the initiator to achieve his goal is dependent on the resistance of the advisary. If the advisary is unable to provide enough resistance, the initiator will learn nothing.
Please pwn this.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jul 22, 2012 14:35:10 GMT -6
Very interesting.
A couple things to think about... the "playing field" is not a closed system. In fact, it is so open-ended - because we're talking about life, reality, the world, etc. - that all the variables cannot be accounted for. The other thing is that criticism is sometimes based on a level as subjective as the thesis being criticized. However, if the pwner is conscious/objective enough, then I also believe that breakthroughs are possible.
How can one be pwned (coming from the root word owned) if one does not allow oneself to be pwned? By that reasoning, how can one disallow pwnage?
Awake!
VS
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Post by sin on Jul 25, 2012 14:18:35 GMT -6
Very interesting.
A couple things to think about... the "playing field" is not a closed system. In fact, it is so open-ended - because we're talking about life, reality, the world, etc. - that all the variables cannot be accounted for. The other thing is that criticism is sometimes based on a level as subjective as the thesis being criticized. However, if the pwner is conscious/objective enough, then I also believe that breakthroughs are possible.
How can one be pwned (coming from the root word owned) if one does not allow oneself to be pwned? By that reasoning, how can one disallow pwnage?
Awake!
VS
Sure, you can learn to by having been owned yourself, but then there's the observing aspect of ourselves to take into consideration. You can learn to avoid pwnage by watching others get pwned, thereby learning the game Before ever having been owned.
Then there's context.
CS
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Post by shawnhartnell on Aug 7, 2012 3:00:48 GMT -6
CS already pwned this on the social network. It's just an extension from a time when I poked people to see if they were real. The only real pwning comes from a noob.
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Post by sin on Aug 7, 2012 12:30:53 GMT -6
I dunno Shawn, even some noobs will give you a run for your money. They have the advantage of learning the game, without the shell of influence.
A few years back there was this kid from Russia, he was barely 18 and challenged my ideas on Agnosticism. While he didn't win the debate, I acknowledged that he gave me a run for my money. He didn't have all those A-typical programs running, if you catch my drift. He was learning how the game was played as he debated me. I gave him props for that, because he earned them.
I do miss that kid. The Evil Specter.
CS
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