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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 7:49:59 GMT -6
I plan to voluntary die when I will be too old to take care of myself.
First, there's no reason to continue living when so weak that you cannot stand, work, learn, when you cannot live in a word.
Second I'm afraid that one may and do, in my opinion, damage his soul by living in a too old body and brain. Just look these very old peoples who are loosing their memory and their intellect, being less and less what make a human. Aren't theirs souls decaying ?
I assume I still have many years to live but I'd like to have your opinions.
Remember yourself, for the emerald kingdom is at hand !
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Post by sin on Nov 8, 2011 10:37:43 GMT -6
It's always been my plan. I've even discussed it with my son. I have no desire to rot away out of fear of death, or consequence for seizing control of my own life.
I'm not entirely sure when that time will be. There is so much life to live, its' not even half over yet!
I just know, that I decide when its time to go. And in the manner I choose.
CS
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Post by boksmutant on Nov 8, 2011 19:55:09 GMT -6
I agree & will do the same like Hunter s Thompson. Perhaps sky diving though.
Awake
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Post by sin on Nov 9, 2011 7:26:44 GMT -6
I agree & will do the same like Hunter s Thompson. Perhaps sky diving though. Awake I was just recently introduced to this character. I had not seen the film 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' until October, holy shit.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson
Ha! My date's costume.
CS
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Post by Zohzst, Ra T’zahr on Nov 9, 2011 7:36:24 GMT -6
I too have been thinking of death. Death to me seems like a mracle, just think when you die all your problems go away. your debt, gone. Those hating nonbelievers, gone it seems great to me and i accept death.
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Post by sin on Nov 9, 2011 10:30:42 GMT -6
A miracle or part of a process? At what stage in your life, is a good time to die?
Akkadian proverb:
LIVE FREE. DIE WELL.
CS RISE!
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Post by Zohzst, Ra T’zahr on Nov 9, 2011 10:44:55 GMT -6
in an old time of your life just as was explained. ALS runs in my family and it is sure to come to me i dont wnat to be trapped in a body that can't move so some of both
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Post by sin on Nov 9, 2011 12:42:04 GMT -6
Understood.
I hear ya. My family has a myriad of genetic diseases. Thankfully, no signs of any of it on my own health chart. I seem to be an enigma. Even my vision is nearly perfect. *fingers crossed*
CS
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Post by Timotheus Prophet of Darkness on Nov 28, 2011 15:03:02 GMT -6
MY goal is to make it to the ripe old age of 120 years,and I plan on doing it the Physical culture way:exercsie with weights,stretching,walking,proper diet,rest and lots of meditation(for stress relief).
Plus theres also the fact I am studying and practicing everything from both:The Psyhic Vampire Codex,as well as The Sanguinomicon,so when this body does croke,the soul will keep on going ;D
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Post by Voraxith on Dec 10, 2011 15:46:25 GMT -6
Death before dishonor. I think that about sums it all up. Happy dying![glow=red,2,300] Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn![/glow]
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Post by sin on Dec 11, 2011 7:00:08 GMT -6
MY goal is to make it to the ripe old age of 120 years,and I plan on doing it the Physical culture way:exercsie with weights,stretching,walking,proper diet,rest and lots of meditation(for stress relief). Plus theres also the fact I am studying and practicing everything from both:The Psyhic Vampire Codex,as well as The Sanguinomicon,so when this body does croke,the soul will keep on going ;D
Here's the thing, if you do your research in to the folklore and legend of Vampires you will learn, that they are basically an empty vessel trapped on earth with no resolve.
The human essence is eternal. The body dies, but the 'essence' of who you are will be returned to the energy pool. That empty vessel uses energy, and *this* is the obsession with energy work in the occult.
Can you be plucked out of that pool as exactly what you were before you died? I don't believe so, but some people do. I suppose anything is possible;however improbable.
CS
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Post by glade on Dec 11, 2011 19:01:35 GMT -6
I just turned 59. I think about the end of life more. I see my family going through different stages of passing and I know I don't want to go through it. I elect to opt out when the time comes and I have had enough or can't maintain my quality of life. Awake
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Post by Ankor on Dec 12, 2011 8:18:36 GMT -6
I would choose to die when i can no longer easily take care of myself. I don't like being helpless, so when someone has to hold my hand to make me walk, or talk to me like I'm very young to make me understand what they are saying, I'll know my time has come. However, hopefully that day will not come for a little while
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Post by sin on Dec 12, 2011 9:40:04 GMT -6
I attended a memorial service on Saturday for an acquaintance of mine. He lived a happy and productive life, and contributed much to his tribe (family), but in the end he died of Cancer. He fought for every breath of life in him to share with his loved ones. He died peacefully in his sleep.
Some would argue that we owe our lives to the people we love, what say you?
CS
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Post by ahariman6 on Dec 13, 2011 10:05:23 GMT -6
When I die I want to be cremated, I don't like the idea of my body just rotting away inside of a box and letting it become home to maggots. I imagine my death to be peaceful and surrounded by family, I think hospices are great, my great ant died in one with u there by her side and she couldn't have been more happy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2011 7:10:58 GMT -6
I attended a memorial service on Saturday for an acquaintance of mine. He lived a happy and productive life, and contributed much to his tribe (family), but in the end he died of Cancer. He fought for every breath of life in him to share with his loved ones. He died peacefully in his sleep.
Some would argue that we owe our lives to the people we love, what say you?
CS I say we owe a part of our lives to the people we love. It is the happy part, the one who make us happy to not be alone, to happily contribute to our family. But it is the mechanical part. A useful part as it is the one that transmit life through the ages for sure, but the real life is not here.
The people loving us are definitively not making us Awake...
Ia Ia Cthulhu fhtagn.
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Post by Gish on Dec 14, 2011 8:05:41 GMT -6
I don't want my body to outlive my mind or my mind to outlive my body. I've worked in aged care and my choice is to "opt out" should I age to a state where I am a burden to all around me. I'm also going to agree with Yrreiht the people loving us are not making us Awake ((YOYO) Your on your own)
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Post by sin on Dec 14, 2011 10:26:26 GMT -6
Agreed, and in some circumstances the very thing keeping us asleep.
CS
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Post by Ankor on Dec 15, 2011 18:58:25 GMT -6
I wouldn't mind having my mind outlive my body. Might be nice to do nothing but think uninterrupted forever.
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Post by boksmutant on Dec 18, 2011 15:04:14 GMT -6
That's pretty cool actually. Like Walt Disney or Hitler style.
When you think of death it does make you just sorta respect the moment & not give a shit. Why not ride it out you know. I'll still take the sky diving though.
Also Yrreiht, you bring up a good point about losing your faculties at an older age. This would seem to me the same thing & it could be worth worrying about. Brother venger, what do you think on this?
Awake!
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Post by Ankor on Dec 19, 2011 14:42:34 GMT -6
I have thought about death since I was young, since I have a large extended family with many deaths. So at a young age, I saw them get weaker and die, one of my early memories is the doctors turning off my grandpa's life support. I also remember saying to my father that I didn't want to live hooked up to machine, something both my late grandfather and I agree upon. He didn't want to live a shell of a life. Some people say it is weak to end life when things get hard, but I beg to differ. Life without happyness is not worth living. Nor is a life in dependance on a machine.
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Post by Xor'Nefthrahm on Dec 20, 2011 9:27:29 GMT -6
If there is no hope to any quality of life, then it is time to die. I had such an event happen right before I went to basic training.
Last year my father, 55yrs old and JUST retired the previous year, was in the hospital for damn near 3 months. Started off with pneumonia.. because of his past lung issues due to working at a paint factory in his younger years, it got so bad they had to put him on a ventilator. Well they sedate people on ventilators most of the time because they don't tolerate having a breathing tube down their throats for days on end.
They gave him a catheter while he was under. He got a UTI from the catheter that spread to his kidneys. Due to his poor health anyways and the pneumonia on top of it, it was a struggle of various treatments to get rid of the pneumonia, and now a resistant infection.
He got better for a few days, then suddenly he got pneumonia again as he accidently aspirated some of his food when he went into a coughing spell.
It got to the point where they had to put in a trache, which is as semi-permanent tube put in the windpipe used to supply air, as his lungs, due to emphysema, were totally shot now that they got hit with infection back to back like that. Meanwhile, kidney function is starting to fail. Right before he slipped into a coma due to his kidney levels being to high, he said "im sick of this shit". I told them that since he has no quality of life and no chance of recovering, to take him off the ventilator. 3 days later, 2 days after they predicted he would die, he died.
I remember right at the moment of his death, the room got icy cold.. everyone, including myself, who was in the room, or entered the room, felt this, including a lot of static energy that made our arm hairs stand up. This lasted for an hour. The staff said they never seen that before.. i told them that they "never met someone like my father before then, apparently".
Though he lived longer than they predicted due to his strong heart, i think he willed himself to die.
When the stars are right.. Xor'Nefthrahm (Devouring Dreamserpent)
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Post by whatsupable on Oct 4, 2012 15:22:44 GMT -6
well i have mixed thoughts on this.
if possible i would go for the doc's story out of Lovecraft's cold air.
yet i think that would be kinda hard, but it would be fun to try out how much longer i could live.
my planning at the moment how i am buried i don't care about at all.
the way to die would be 2 different options to me.
A. live a live until body stops working providing the mind is still good. when they doc say i can't be helped no more i would go for no more medican and painkillers and see how long it takes and enjoy every moment of before and the dieing itself (i even wanna to make sure i am not sleeping at the moment to experiance fully)
B. would be going out whit a bang. like go and rob a bank, cause havok, drink and feast etc... and end the day whit a giant homemade chemical experiments and try all of them on myself and laugh and in the end before the last few heartbeats blow myself up in a giant explosion. (weird thing this is serious)
at the moment i go for A over B but might i don't be able to fulfill it i have a nice backup plan B.
but i ques i still have a year of 80 to go i hope.
as what comes after death i am not sure.
Ia Ia Cthulhu Ftagn
Drekth'Ak
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