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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 14, 2011 11:28:19 GMT -6
I thought there was already a stickied Ascension thread? Maybe I missed it or it got deleted. Anyways, here's a new one in the appropriate board: The Calling: Ascension, personal transformations and demonstrations of our power.
Guess what? Walpurgisnacht (May Eve - read your Lovecraft!) 2012 will be here before you know it. On that date, I'm planning on announcing the next list of honors and Ascensions.
I don't want to hear people asking me how they can get on that list a week or two before Walpurgisnacht. That's just silly. It takes a good long while to show your dedication, prove yourself worthy, and be evaluated by a member of the CoC Priesthood. We call it preparation.
Advancing to a higher degree within our quantum religion and emerald paradigm is no easy task. It's proof positive that a Cultist understands what he's doing and can apply our viridescent teachings to his life.
So, if you're interested in moving up in the world, then let me know soon, between now and the end of November. Even though there are spaces which need to be filled, the Priesthood is not about to just hand out advanced degrees to every tentacle that undulates in our general direction. You either earn it through action or stay where you are for another year. Consider this for a moment, if Dread Cthulhu rises at the end of 2012, how far along the Ascension ladder do you want to be?
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Voraxith on Sept 14, 2011 14:23:28 GMT -6
It is probably posted elsewhere, or on the site, but I must ask how one goes about being considered for such Ascension? Let me know what is required for this, and I will gladly throw my hat in the ring.
[glow=red,2,300]Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn![/glow]
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 14, 2011 15:00:08 GMT -6
It is probably posted elsewhere, or on the site, but I must ask how one goes about being considered for such Ascension? Let me know what is required for this, and I will gladly throw my hat in the ring. [glow=red,2,300]Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn![/glow] For background information, check out the thread which Yrreiht just resurrected, "Ascensions". It had slipped to the second page, apparently.
Part of the advancement process (and it is indeed a process) is showing the Priesthood your worth. Can we count on you? Are you thinking about the CoC and it's members? Have you come up with valuable ideas? Are you an inspiration? Can we see your results? Has your life been altered for the better?
An essay or similar task will also be required, but the whole person is judged across various dimensions. All merits and flaws are weighed alongside that Cultist's contributions, evaluated over a significant period of time.
As for what degree is obtainable... that depends as much on the raw material as the refining process. What is the Cultist in question most suited for? Find your niche and take it to the next level. Surprise yourself. Go all the way. This is your Cult too... fucking will it!
By His loathsome tentacles,
VS
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Post by sin on Sept 15, 2011 9:33:19 GMT -6
You damn skippy. Thus spake the Ipsissimus. Thus spake us all.
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Post by Ny'obstaresh on Sept 15, 2011 22:02:20 GMT -6
As a long-standing member of the Cult, and indeed a life-long practitioner of the "Dark Arts", I'd like to put myself forward for consideration for Ascension. I believe our (myself and Rezal) combined efforts here in New Zealand will lead to big things, and the renewal of the Effort seems also to call for a renewal in the will towards Ascension. An essay has been mentioned several times as a requirement. What will it be on?
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!
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Post by dudetyson on Sept 16, 2011 10:58:37 GMT -6
You can use the techniques for worldly matters if you want to. The only way to create change in the real world is one of two things: mundane methods, which require massive discipline, or possibly magical methods, which probably also require massive discipline. The entire purpose of the CoC is self-creation, intensification of will, etc.
We do actually talk about politics a good deal for an esoteric group. The money, not so much. Honestly if we sold money-making schemes as part of our religion, we would probably come off as totally fraudulent. The truth as far as I know it: there's no easy way to make tons of money.
However there is more to life than the material. There is beauty, there is justice, there is courage, there is refined selfhood. All of these things may touch upon the material world, or even partially depend on it, but reside they primarily inside human consciousness.
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 16, 2011 15:13:34 GMT -6
Yes, essays are part of it. Really, any expression of your own personal understanding. As long as the subject matter is Cult related, there's no problem. Go crazy! But there's more than just doing the assigned work. Show us that this is your Cult. I'll be looking for those who volunteer to do extra credit.
There are thousands of groups out there devoted to teaching people how to make money, win friends, and influence politics. That all has to do with outer life, illusions. The Cult of Cthulhu deals with man's internal struggle so that he may generate, focus, and use his own personal power such as higher states of consciousness.
Few are the individuals who see the full value of inner development. Of course, what you do on your own is up to you. A Cultist could learn from us and run for Congress or become a successful business owner. Don't confuse life with living. BTW, I'm in the process of writing a new essay for the CoC site which touches on this topic.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Ny'obstaresh on Sept 16, 2011 19:34:41 GMT -6
Yes, essays are part of it. Really, any expression of your own personal understanding. As long as the subject matter is Cult related, there's no problem. Go crazy! But there's more than just doing the assigned work. Show us that this is your Cult. I'll be looking for those who volunteer to do extra credit.
[/color][/b] Excellent. I've already been working on an essay of my own that I'm sure will intrigue. You will have it by the end of the month. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!
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Post by Ny'obstaresh on Sept 16, 2011 19:36:07 GMT -6
I am talking about taking occult workings to the utter extremes. What's your end game? My would be world domination of my philosophies, and that's just the opening act. I am talking about replacing everything we currently know, I mean everything from the written word to the way people interact with each other. All and every facet of human life would be touched, be changed, and be to the betterment of the self. This game you have to be all the way in or get out. The reason I speak of money, science, and politics is because to take over a system and replace it with your own. You must first learn of the way of one's enemy to defeating them. I haven't seen any worthy occult study of monetary system that truly teaches one to getting wealthy for a reason. Money is power, and people aren't willing to share it. Money is base and profane. What good will a pile of green paper do anyone when the Great Old Ones return?
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Post by I AM the Way on Sept 16, 2011 19:57:19 GMT -6
I am talking about taking occult workings to the utter extremes. What's your end game? My would be world domination of my philosophies, and that's just the opening act. I am talking about replacing everything we currently know, I mean everything from the written word to the way people interact with each other. All and every facet of human life would be touched, be changed, and be to the betterment of the self. This game you have to be all the way in or get out. The reason I speak of money, science, and politics is because to take over a system and replace it with your own. You must first learn of the way of one's enemy to defeating them. I haven't seen any worthy occult study of monetary system that truly teaches one to getting wealthy for a reason. Money is power, and people aren't willing to share it. You're ambitious, I like that. But one needs to be somewhat realistic too. If the entire Left Hand Path merged with all the Lovecraft devotees in order to re-imagine everything, then a catastrophic world change would be damn near unstoppable. However, a small group, let alone an individual, can not alter reality on the scale you're talking about.
My endgame is achieving Godhood by preparing the way and bringing the Great Old Ones back to earth. I'm in as far as I can go.
Awake!
VS
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Post by dudetyson on Sept 16, 2011 22:42:17 GMT -6
I share your interest in social transformation. So far I've kept it compartmentalized from religion in my mind, but I am finally seeing them as equivalent.
I would read Mankiw's textbook Macro-Economics, which tends toward pro-free market but also covers Keynes, and I would read Communist Manifesto plus a modern intro-level interpretation of marxist economics. I hear The Big Short was a pretty solid honest look at what happened in 2008, as well, from both left-wing and right-wing readers. 1984 is a good dissection of control systems, and so are Noam Chomsky's works.
Read Getting Past No or Getting to Yes for getting ahead around others. Also read The Tyranny of Structurelessness, a great exploration of group dynamics in any situation.
I don't see how the hard sciences could get you ahead, except as a skill set so you could get a higher-paying job. Navigating society involves psychology, sociology, economics, history, and politics.
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Post by sin on Sept 18, 2011 18:18:59 GMT -6
It is said that when a person seeks to live in the past or the future, they are avoiding the present.
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Post by sin on Sept 19, 2011 8:06:32 GMT -6
Time is both perceived and conceived.
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Post by ThvrzOna8 on Sept 22, 2011 17:10:44 GMT -6
I am very much looking forth to the ascension! I am currently a Esoteric WoTD, delving deeper and deeper into the subconsciousness & esoteric cult's will & meshing it with my own! I believe I have QUITE A BIT TO OFFER, especially with subjects dealing with Chaos Magick, Thursian currents from Nordic belief & how these currents INCREDIBLY resonate with the CoC's, HPL's & Ancient Sumerian Belief structures! I shall will this ascension into reality, through discipline, dedication, confidence & respect! My tentacles shall reach the stars & pluck the cosmic veil, pouring forth Eldric, acasual & anticosmic currents throughout this so called existence! Through individuals & influences such as yourself & among many others, my current shall and will be felt!
Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn
Your brother Zach IUA'ShyTiamapsU Iddimuurkuabsu ThvrsOna E.W.o.T.D.
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Post by ahariman6 on Oct 10, 2011 11:27:37 GMT -6
I got no real business stating my opinion to members above my status, but I feel that ascension will start to occur when you want it. I also believe that you don't follow a strict tradition created by one person, you should trust that you know how to make yourself awake and ascend. It's like in Venger Satanis' essay "Limelight Prison Muscles are Backseat Driving through the Desert Gate", there's that dark portal in the back of our minds that leads into an unknown abyss. That abyss is scarey because we don't understand it, we don't know what to expect. I've read this in several of Michael Ford's books, he stresses the unknown as something scarey, but also something worth seeking out. I feel this world, the dream, makes us all identify with our bodies and not enough with the essence controlling them, and that's how we lose our sense of self. This could all be pure speculation, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, like I said, I gots no business stating my opinion to my superiors.
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Post by sin on Oct 10, 2011 12:42:27 GMT -6
All opinions are welcome here, its all input we can use. Your opinion is valid, and it will be considered by those who read here. That said, I agree with your viewpoint in that identifying with the material body, we lose sight of unknown forces controlling it. Such as those we are not always consciously aware of, influence is ever present. It is constant, so our Work should be constant as well. Ascension, is a recognizable movement from marker to marker in the development of the self.
CS
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Post by Verins'Sharaz on Oct 11, 2011 23:53:53 GMT -6
Time is both perceived and conceived. Neither past nor future exist, all is the eternal Present; Time is an agreed upon illusion that keeps the humans sane. All are one in Yog-Sothoth! Anyhow, best of luck to all the candidates who are stepping forward to give it their all! The Ipsissimus expects nothing less! May the Cult grow with you & upon its emergence may you truly Become!!!! Some experiences are so profound they alter our DNA!
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Post by tonycool1 on Oct 24, 2011 21:10:53 GMT -6
I agree, I think the first step is always with truth. The first step is understanding. Any magickal working begins with focus. A bringing forth so to say. A mental image forged of pure will and honed into a graphic reality. Distractions must be cut out as the cancer that it is. Most of thoes who are with out are spread out like jelly over to much toast. Most feel that a true Lhp creation is a negative person. This is untrue. We are the least distracted. Rhp sheep follow for the whole herd must move to attain any pathetic reasonable goal. Running in circles as they are, loosing a few on the way even strengthens there resolve as the herd binds tighter together following a Shepard loosing all form of individual reality. As we are all prisoners our goal must be to awake! We must stay focused even to a fault on the goals that unite us as we separate!
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Post by sin on Jan 2, 2012 11:17:07 GMT -6
I agree, I think the first step is always with truth. Which truth? As subjective creatures, we have a tendency to be influenced by our perceived realities. Some truths are even self-defeating, and the very thing you may be working to overcome.
Truth, shapes understanding. What a person understands is key in shaping personal reality.
Speaking of truth...
I think its beneficial to the individual to work on coping with distractions. There are environmental factors which may not always be in your hands to control, thus you should manage yourself accordingly. In other words, work within the distraction. Buddhist monks follow a strict discipline which remove themselves from the environment.
The RHP/LHP dichotomy can be negative influence and programming, thus producing a 'negative' person...A sheep following a bad shepherd. There is such a thing as The Good Shepherd, and many crazy-wisdom-teachers try to emulate this archetype.
Not a bad idea to review some of the Finer points made by The Dude.
1. Venger's role in the cult 2. The cult paradigm 3. What does it teach? 4. How can it be used by the individual as well as the group?
The Good Shepherd?
You decide.
CS
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Post by lucifersman666 on Jan 23, 2012 16:13:07 GMT -6
I'm ready to grow,I am interested in writing an essay,and have no doubt that my talents and weaknesses can benefit others.So I'm working on it look foreward to Awakening with all of you as I progress.
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Post by The $E73N ST4R on Jan 26, 2012 18:46:00 GMT -6
I hereby submit my thread in the introduction forum, "The AntiChrist Unveiled -- in 7 parts (and one disaster)" as my official Ascension essay.
I 've always felt a kinship with the CoC and I would like to make it official .
My plan for increasing awareness of the CoC (and to increase it's financial foothold) is throw CoC themed parties -- full of debauchery, of course -- film these gatherings, compile the footage onto DVDs and sell the DVDs on the website. I encourage all of the CoC members to do the same. The logic is quite simple -- 1.) It is mandated that we shout and kill* and revel and enjoy ourselves. 2.) The more and varied footage we acquire the better the videos will be. 3.) You got a better idea?
*metaphorically speaking, of course -- like, kill boredom, normality, Christianity etc. . If you want to kill humans or animals seek professional help, you sick fuck.
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 27, 2012 9:12:53 GMT -6
I hereby submit my thread in the introduction forum, "The AntiChrist Unveiled -- in 7 parts (and one disaster)" as my official Ascension essay. I 've always felt a kinship with the CoC and I would like to make it official . My plan for increasing awareness of the CoC (and to increase it's financial foothold) is throw CoC themed parties -- full of debauchery, of course -- film these gatherings, compile the footage onto DVDs and sell the DVDs on the website. I encourage all of the CoC members to do the same. The logic is quite simple -- 1.) It is mandated that we shout and kill* and revel and enjoy ourselves. 2.) The more and varied footage we acquire the better the videos will be. 3.) You got a better idea? *metaphorically speaking, of course -- like, kill boredom, normality, Christianity etc. . If you want to kill humans or animals seek professional help, you sick fuck. For one thing, if you want to become a Herald of the Old Gods (the first real degree within the CoC), then all you need to do is email me a completed three question application. An Ascension essay is not necessary.
For another, it takes more than elaborate conspiracy theories, pop culture occult imagery collage, and revealing that you're an extra-dimensional alien/cyborg to become a functioning component of our religion. Stop with all the theatrics and just be yourself! So, even if you were already a Cultist I would not accept your essay as it stands.
Awake!
VS
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Post by The $E73N ST4R on Jan 29, 2012 9:34:33 GMT -6
There is no me. my self is an illusion. I am whatever spectacle I say I am. It is a matter will. Thank you for showing me the truth
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Post by sin on Jan 30, 2012 8:49:12 GMT -6
While trolling has its time and place, I find it in poor taste here.
CS
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Post by I AM the Way on Feb 11, 2012 14:16:08 GMT -6
Besides writing an Ascension essay and participating in various group activities / discussions, I'd like Cultists to answer the following three-part essay question...
In your own words, define being. Describe its qualities and importance within the Cult of Cthulhu. Write down how individuals, especially yourself, should go about raising their level of being.
Awake!
VS
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 10:00:18 GMT -6
I made it shorter than a regular essay of 500 words but I wrote it, should I post it here or in the 4th way section, or sending it to you ?
When the stars are right.
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Post by I AM the Way on Feb 14, 2012 14:12:52 GMT -6
I made it shorter than a regular essay of 500 words but I wrote it, should I post it here or in the 4th way section, or sending it to you ?
When the stars are right. Post it here if you want a public critique. Otherwise, emailing it to me is fine. Expect a few revision notes.
Awake!
VS
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Post by K'zin Z'tari on Feb 15, 2012 7:17:13 GMT -6
I have much interest in Ascending,I have been struggling and fighting my demons and I have much to share,though my case is not all of the supernatural,it is though a battle of an individual,working for a better life,braking free of bad lifestyle,using the Fourth way techniques,though I am not free of my demons completely,there had been much progress in the one year that has gone since I started to work on this,then with new interest and will power.
Yes,I am gaining more and more understanding and my life has taken a complete turn to the better,I wont say much more for now,I have made many promises,I was not able to stand by and probably many of you who know anything of my work,have thought me lost and dead or just imagined that I gave up and sank under...again,but it is not the case,my work has given good results.
But as I feel now,I am ready to go back into class and sit down and listen to the teachings we are offered here.
K'zin Z'tari Esoteric Herald Of The OldGods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by sin on Feb 15, 2012 9:38:09 GMT -6
But as I feel now,I am ready to go back into class and sit down and listen to the teachings we are offered here. K'zin Z'tari Esoteric Herald Of The OldGods Cult of Cthulhu I've witnessed the struggle, I read your blogs, and have a general idea of what obstacles you face.
If you need any direction to content or tools, let me know.
Priestess of R'lyeh Cora'Sahn
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Post by lokidreaming on Feb 27, 2012 19:04:35 GMT -6
Besides writing an Ascension essay and participating in various group activities / discussions, I'd like Cultists to answer the following three-part essay question...
In your own words, define being. Describe its qualities and importance within the Cult of Cthulhu. Write down how individuals, especially yourself, should go about raising their level of being.
Awake!
VS
This is one of the reasons I love the COC,ust as you figure out stuff to the best of your satisfaction, they ask you for more info which makes you go um..good point and questions...now how am I going to answer this in my own words and am I being truthful with my words (instead of just agreeing with people and have no substance to back it up) and how do I already apply it to my life and if not why not. Loki Dreaming
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