|
Post by xophier on Feb 17, 2011 0:25:06 GMT -6
I've often found myself perplexed at my sexual orientation as asexual. I enjoy sex and all that entails, but for me it is all mechanical. I feel no lust for it, no animalistic drive, nor a passionate mood. It actually made sex magic as easy as chanting in rhythm and it's made rituals which call for an abstaining from any and all contact simple.
Has anyone ever encountered this?
|
|
|
Post by mellifleur257 on Feb 17, 2011 16:53:00 GMT -6
Vary rarely
|
|
|
Post by ubercrow on Feb 21, 2011 22:34:54 GMT -6
Yes, sir! I have never been able to accurately describe how it felt for me, but you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
I have had sex several times, and, as I am a quite submissive man, it was not really of my own desire so much as my partner's at the time. I did not get any special pleasure (other than the obvious) out of it, and I have literally no drive to do it again, in fact, I'd rather not subject myself to the inherent superficiality of sex altogether. It feels good to not have my mind plagued by such thoughts.
Do you enjoy your asexuality?
|
|
|
Post by Ikaros on Feb 22, 2011 0:57:11 GMT -6
I cannot help but take issue with this thread. While I appreciate the utility of celibacy, I can't help but disagree that sexuality should be excluded from a person's make up and actions. Masturbation is an exercise of your sexuality. As Woody Allen said, "Masturbation is sex with someone you love." Dominance and submission are factors in sexuality (as brought up by ubercrow), but submission is the opposite of the goal of the LHP as I understand it. When you submit, you only reinforce the control programs that are already in place. At least, that is my opinion.
Belief is Reality!
Ikaros
|
|
|
Post by xophier on Feb 22, 2011 20:39:57 GMT -6
Ikaros, celibacy is the abstinence from sex while asexuality itself is a sexuality, one of no orientation. I am not saying I gain power from a lack of sexual contact, or I am fighting back urges, simply that I have none so it is outside of my scope. I am excluding sexual desire to the same extent a homosexual excludes a desire to be heterosexual.
As for submission or dominance, pain is pleasure, and pleasure is pain... If you enjoy it, do it, if you don't, stop it. Also being submissive during sex as an asexual is kind of the only choice because at most you pick up on your partner's emotions and chemicals, you don't have that lust that they do.
|
|
|
Post by Ikaros on Feb 23, 2011 1:47:07 GMT -6
Ikaros, celibacy is the abstinence from sex while asexuality itself is a sexuality, one of no orientation. I am not saying I gain power from a lack of sexual contact, or I am fighting back urges, simply that I have none so it is outside of my scope. I am excluding sexual desire to the same extent a homosexual excludes a desire to be heterosexual. As for submission or dominance, pain is pleasure, and pleasure is pain... If you enjoy it, do it, if you don't, stop it. Also being submissive during sex as an asexual is kind of the only choice because at most you pick up on your partner's emotions and chemicals, you don't have that lust that they do. Brother Xophier, I understand the linguistic distinction between celibacy and asexuality. Asexuality by definition is a lack of sexuality. Sexuality, as I understand it, is a key trait of human evolution. I wouldn't call you asexual, as that would mean that you never participate in sex. I would say that you have an emotional disconnection from sex, which is not uncommon in males. Sex is something the body needs, like food and water. If you don't engage in masturbation, you will experience wet dreams, which is the bodies way of satisfying it's needs without conscious will. My point is not to discredit your experience or belief, but rather to qualify it in a more specific way. If I am wrong, then you neither masturbate nor experience nocturnal emissions. Is this the case? Belief is Reality! Ikaros
|
|
|
Post by mellifleur257 on Mar 2, 2011 18:02:24 GMT -6
I agree with Ikaros here. Sexuality is a necessity. Perhaps your unconscious and conscious minds are sort of intermingling, making you yourself believe that you have no desire nor need for it due to your belief that you do not. As brother Satanis sais, belief is reality.
Hail Cthulhu
|
|
|
Post by boksmutant on Mar 2, 2011 22:16:41 GMT -6
I will agree with Ikaros on this. I have tried killing my more primal urges in favor for a sorta abstinence, but this only led to a more extreme & violent aspect that I discovered in my self. In denying our selves, we do gain a sorta power that can't be mimicked by anything other than something that should not be mentioned. But I have found it to be something that can't be controlled & must be confronted. It is instinctual to be sexual & even aggressive when in such a state. But like you said, it does help you so there is something to be said for that.
It will always be a give & take for what is more important when it comes to knowing your self. Power resides on both side & Ive never known what would be more worth it. The body demands so much as if it is its own personality, its own being. The Four way does say so as well.
I suggest separating your self from your body. Let your higher self dictate the end result. Should be hell though.
Awake!
|
|
|
Post by xophier on Mar 2, 2011 22:32:14 GMT -6
It isn't a state I am in, it is simply the way i am. I have had sex, but that has only been recent and not ongoing; she always initiated it, and more often than not I was simply her living toy until she was done. As for masturbation, I find the chemicals released are somewhat useful as a painkiller, but usually I don't climax, and I haven't had a sex dream or nocturnal emission that I can recall. Sex interests me but the actual attraction and arousal eludes me.
To the world, to anything I hold no attraction, no sexual lust; but I can see and appreciate aesthetic beauty. There is also AVEN which I just found myself which is a the "Asexual Visibility and Education Network," honestly haven't read a word outside that title, but it looks interesting.
|
|
matthaeus
Adeptus
Herald of the Old Gods
Posts: 21
|
Post by matthaeus on Mar 12, 2011 18:08:25 GMT -6
It's rare, but not unheard of. (Any trait that makes you less likely to have children is going to breed out.) True asexuality isn't about not having sex, it's about not feeling the drive for sex. For example, take Crowley. The old beast had sex for many reasons apart from a simple "reproductive drive." (Not saying that Crowley was asexual, just pointing out that the "Sex drive" is not the be all end all.)
|
|