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Post by K'zin Z'tari on Jan 24, 2011 4:59:56 GMT -6
Greetings to ya all
As I was meditating this morning I came to think about creating a magnetic center.
Here on the forum I have read that being in a school is very important and I also read that you have to get many I´s too agree on the same thing thus creating a magnetic center.
How do I do that?
Awake
K´zin Z´tari Dreaming Herald of the old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by symbolicone on Jan 24, 2011 5:20:21 GMT -6
Read both of the Cthulhu Cult bibles.
You can get a copy of "Cthulhu Cult" from Brother Satanis, and it's pretty easy to find a download for Liber A:O through Google.
Otherwise, it's about finding 'I's that work together and ultimately help each other with achieving the goals you want to set yourself. At least, that's my understanding. It's more comprehensive in the aforementioned books. Hope that helps.
Awake!
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Post by I AM the Way on Jan 25, 2011 16:40:56 GMT -6
Greetings to ya all As I was meditating this morning I came to think about creating a magnetic center. Here on the forum I have read that being in a school is very important and I also read that you have to get many I´s too agree on the same thing thus creating a magnetic center. How do I do that? Awake K´zin Z´tari Dreaming Herald of the old Gods Cult of Cthulhu Yes, creating Magnetic Center is vitally important to Awakening.
As you mentioned, creating Magnetic Center entails locating similar 'I's that wish to progress and then bringing them together for a greater purpose.
Begin by simply observing yourself. Watch the 'I's that go back and forth internally, that take hold of "you" for a few moments as another 'I' exerts its influence. After months of simply observing (which hopefully you've already achieved), then you may analyze these many 'I's. Note the character, strength, and alignment of each 'I'. Eventually, you will comprehend those facets of yourself which desire to Work. Band such Work 'I's together, give them authority, and allow yourself to be guided by these newfound impulses which strive to be more conscious.
If this brief explanation leads to more questions, then ask them.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by K'zin Z'tari on Jan 26, 2011 2:57:13 GMT -6
Greetings to ya all As I was meditating this morning I came to think about creating a magnetic center. Here on the forum I have read that being in a school is very important and I also read that you have to get many I´s too agree on the same thing thus creating a magnetic center. How do I do that? Awake K´zin Z´tari Dreaming Herald of the old Gods Cult of Cthulhu Yes, creating Magnetic Center is vitally important to Awakening.
As you mentioned, creating Magnetic Center entails locating similar 'I's that wish to progress and then bringing them together for a greater purpose.
Begin by simply observing yourself. Watch the 'I's that go back and forth internally, that take hold of "you" for a few moments as another 'I' exerts its influence. After months of simply observing (which hopefully you've already achieved), then you may analyze these many 'I's. Note the character, strength, and alignment of each 'I'. Eventually, you will comprehend those facets of yourself which desire to Work. Band such Work 'I's together, give them authority, and allow yourself to be guided by these newfound impulses which strive to be more conscious.
If this brief explanation leads to more questions, then ask them.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
Master Satanis,thank you so much for this great explanation,I am gonna work and work and work. How good it is to be a part of the CoC,with its great teachers and the hard working students,and be able to learn and share with others. The Cult of Cthulhu shall never die K´zin Z´tari Dreaming Herald of the old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Jan 26, 2011 3:05:40 GMT -6
Yes, creating Magnetic Center is vitally important to Awakening.
As you mentioned, creating Magnetic Center entails locating similar 'I's that wish to progress and then bringing them together for a greater purpose.
Begin by simply observing yourself. Watch the 'I's that go back and forth internally, that take hold of "you" for a few moments as another 'I' exerts its influence. After months of simply observing (which hopefully you've already achieved), then you may analyze these many 'I's. Note the character, strength, and alignment of each 'I'. Eventually, you will comprehend those facets of yourself which desire to Work. Band such Work 'I's together, give them authority, and allow yourself to be guided by these newfound impulses which strive to be more conscious.
If this brief explanation leads to more questions, then ask them.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
Master Satanis,thank you so much for this great explanation,I am gonna work and work and work. How good it is to be a part of the CoC,with its great teachers and the hard working students,and be able to learn and share with others. The Cult of Cthulhu shall never die K´zin Z´tari Dreaming Herald of the old Gods Cult of Cthulhu So once again, CoC and Master Satanis has managed to rock my very world! Such a simple explanation for a difficult, yet vital, task. Many, many thanks! Awake!
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Post by boksmutant on Apr 3, 2011 21:57:15 GMT -6
I notice if I work out physically & control my breathing, concentrating on what is happening within, I gain a magnetic center for my "I's". But this is a chore since I'm not used to having it come any easier, & I must admit it might be a bit of a downer for me since it takes so much.
The results gained are quite worth it though, as it is a very noticeable change of my being. Everything is in unison with all parts acting as one, with a total purpose being experienced within & without.
One thing that just came to me, is that you almost feel as if your actions were preordained. I mean that in a way that your actions are so comfortable & fluid to you, that you are not surprised by (or questioning) your actions with any hesitation. As if your "I's" aren't second guessing & jumping about like they might other wise.
I guess the clearest example of when you could "question your actions" would be when you reach up to put your hand against your head while you think, & quickly realize you don't need to do that so you draw your hand back lol. This does not happen at all when your MC is aligned. The preordained part I mention is that you feel as if you can see one second into the future & base what you what to do on that. Your past feel's less like a distant memory that flash's the parts you want to see, & more like one continuous stream or story that's fully connected. Far out shit.
Awake!
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Post by hartnell on Apr 3, 2011 22:40:34 GMT -6
Traditionally in the Fourth Way, a magnetic center is formed by interaction with B influences which are found entirely by sheer luck, at least at first. The interaction with B influences affects a number of "I's" to create a new interest within you. This sort of thing happens when you've read or seen a movie which makes a profound impression on you and makes you think. The interested "I's" that are a result of this process attract you to similar B influences. In other words, you're interested in a B influence more than something else whenever the law of accident presents you with the choice. You are not making the choice at this stage, the interested "I's" are.
By sheer luck you find more B influences and more I's are recruited into the set of I's that are already interested. It begins to transition into a node which is active more often by more things. This is the beginning of a magnetic center. It functions to set a direction of your life -- unconsciously -- towards more B influences and hopefully a school. At most you know at this stage is that you are interested in some area of knowledge or you like some category of art, or things which give you a certain kind of feeling.
It's important to consider the direction of the magnetic center. Magnetic centers can form which are directed to something other than the Work, and that person can, through the unconscious influence of the magnetic center, become great in an area -- but not self aware. The magnetic center must lead to the Work to lead to self-awareness.
Venger As'Nas Satanis's answer presupposes self-awareness and an 'I' which is in control often enough to do work consciously on himself. At this point, the magnetic center has served most of it's purpose.
By saying that, am I saying that Venger As'Nas Satanis is more self-aware than most? Yup. But I also think that he doesn't understand how he got there, at least, when he posted the answer. I didn't get it either until I started seriously studying the Work.
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Post by hartnell on Apr 4, 2011 12:13:50 GMT -6
The TV's ability to warp young minds is certainly a factor. This movie warped mine.
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Post by I AM the Way on Apr 4, 2011 13:18:46 GMT -6
Shawn, I feel like I must have skipped a page regarding your Transformers The Movie vids post... Am I missing something?
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by hartnell on Apr 5, 2011 1:21:21 GMT -6
This is what, 4th grade? Transformers:The Movie is definitely a B influence. It's entirely too intellectual for it's intended audience. It's a commentary on so many things. It introduced something new to the series: Culture. Unicron is a planet / large robot that goes around eating entire planets and the 'people' on them. Kup is a village elder passing on the traditional culture of the Autobots the same way a tribe would -- by telling stories. The Quintessons might as well be what you call the 'lesser gods of the earth' and the irrational hunger of the Sharkticons and their ilk representative of the mindless masses and their consumerism. The Decepticons represent a culture without honor based solely on survival of the fittest. When they have to 'lighten the load' they 'democratically' vote to choose through survival of the fittest. Those who were were in good shape voted for, those who were injured in the previous battle voted against. Then they just chucked them out the door of the spaceship. Megatron's last words to Starscream were: "Wait, I still function." That has always stuck with me. I couldn't find that scene, but this one stuck with me too. Megatron is later transformed into Galvatron by Unicron and shows up at the coronation of Starcream. As far as the work is concerned it got me to thinking about what culture really was and lead to an interest in anthropology and other cultures in general. It got me thinking about what life really was, and to consider the possibility that all life was mechanical and death in general, as the movie has a nihilist element to it. For a 4th grader, the movie is brutally nihilistic. It was the first seed of systems thinking. As Unicron wants the universe to be him, the battle cry of the Autobots is "Until All Are One!" I wondered, what's the difference? So, take all that and build on it since 4th grade, many other experiences I've had due to the interests started with it, and you begin to get a magnetic center.
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Post by hartnell on Apr 5, 2011 2:11:47 GMT -6
I'm fairly certain that "Awaken the Giant Within", comedy books, physical fitness ( theme of work on self ), and the biz are parts of your magnetic center. (Besides influences we both share.) I can't know for sure.
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Post by I AM the Way on Apr 5, 2011 8:49:32 GMT -6
I notice if I work out physically & control my breathing, concentrating on what is happening within, I gain a magnetic center for my "I's". But this is a chore since I'm not used to having it come any easier, & I must admit it might be a bit of a downer for me since it takes so much. The results gained are quite worth it though, as it is a very noticeable change of my being. Everything is in unison with all parts acting as one, with a total purpose being experienced within & without. One thing that just came to me, is that you almost feel as if your actions were preordained. I mean that in a way that your actions are so comfortable & fluid to you, that you are not surprised by (or questioning) your actions with any hesitation. As if your "I's" aren't second guessing & jumping about like they might other wise. I guess the clearest example of when you could "question your actions" would be when you reach up to put your hand against your head while you think, & quickly realize you don't need to do that so you draw your hand back lol. This does not happen at all when your MC is aligned. The preordained part I mention is that you feel as if you can see one second into the future & base what you what to do on that. Your past feel's less like a distant memory that flash's the parts you want to see, & more like one continuous stream or story that's fully connected. Far out shit. Awake! Amidst all the activity, I didn't mean to gloss over your enlightened post, Boksmutanis. Very well stated.
Being in a heightened state of consciousness is like seeing a few seconds into the future.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by hartnell on Apr 5, 2011 9:25:18 GMT -6
Thanks for clarifying.
Yes, Shawn, I agree. B Influences all the way. In fact, so much of what I grew up with could be classified as B Influences. Dozens of "adult" cartoons, scifi shows, movies, etc. One example I brought up a few weeks ago was from The Land of the Lost, particularly the mageti (google it or find the post where I talked about it). Such a concept is so far above the usual kid's show drivel that I can hardly believe I was watching that every Saturday morning for years. Perhaps we should make a list of Influence B television shows? Yeah, I remember Land of the Lost. It was like The Real Ghostbusters, it just had this inexpressible quality about it which made it a cut above the norm. A list of B Influences would be useful, whatever they may be.
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Post by I AM the Way on Apr 5, 2011 13:54:34 GMT -6
I'm glad you agree. There was this 70's or early 80's British TV show about psychic phenomena, time travel, and people turning into giant slugs. From what I remember, these were separate shows that took turns running on the old Nickelodeon network.
Which reminds me, so many series I watched in my youth revolved around trying to get home. People being lost and working towards finding their way back to where they were from. Some made it, most didn't.
* Dungeons & Dragons
* This American 80's TV show about a family lost in another dimension because they stumbled onto some sort of gateway in the pyramids.
* Land of the Lost
* Doctor Who (some of the time)
Who can think of others?
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis Ipsissimus Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by hartnell on Apr 5, 2011 15:23:31 GMT -6
I can't think of any more at the moment, but you might find this interesting:
"At its simplest level, priming can apply to a single word: Reading a word once will increase the speed at which that same word will subsequently be recognized. This effect is known as repetition priming and occurs because once a schema has been activated, it takes less energy to reactivate the construct on a subsequent occasion. Furthermore, if a schema is frequently activated, it can become hyperaccessible, and the rate at which it decreases its activation is reduced. This pattern is optimal because it keeps schemas that are encountered frequently activated for longer, so that they are more easily accessible if required again."
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Post by K'zin Z'tari on Apr 10, 2011 0:18:33 GMT -6
I am glad to see this old thread that I started has been continued with more wisdom with new views on the matter and many other good points.
Keep up the good work brothers and sisters
Awake
K´zin Z´tari Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult Of Cthulhu
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Post by sin on Apr 10, 2011 1:17:56 GMT -6
I think to add into the mix of shows I watched as a kid I'd like to add:
Good Times The Jeffersons Sanford and Sons
I believe that these shows were B influences, which were most likely the most impacting in nurturing my attitudes towards race.
I grew up in an entirely racist family, I'm referring to negative racism. The conscious development of these shows, impacted me in such a way, that I raged against the negative racism of my family. If I had to pinpoint an age, when I began to question and confront the views of my parents on race, I would say it was about 6-7 years old.
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