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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 16, 2010 17:37:26 GMT -6
Well I've been reading up on this fourth way in order to gain a better understanding. It would appear that negative emotions are right out, and while I've been working on this, I do have one question... Is revenge acceptable? Let me start from the beginning...
I could write volumes on why my father is a dick with ears and a bad haircut, but for the purpose of this post, suffice it to say that he is. Now, I've been meaning to move away from Texas to Minnesota for a variety of reasons. But the reason we will focus on here is, that I want to get the hell away from my father. I do not intend to tell him anything about the plan until I'm already settled there. Now I could just not call him ever again... I could do that, but instead, I'd like to call him and formally tell him that he no longer has a son. I know that this will hurt him far more than anything I could ever do to him physically.
Now I've gotten revenge before and it is a good feeling. Unless you've done it, you never know why they say that it is a dish best served cold. It is a frigid dish filled with self exaltation and the feeling of mastery over one's own destiny. The question I now pose is, is this a bad thing that is counter-productive to the fourth way?
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 17, 2010 11:20:23 GMT -6
Well I've been reading up on this fourth way in order to gain a better understanding. It would appear that negative emotions are right out, and while I've been working on this, I do have one question... Is revenge acceptable? Let me start from the beginning... I could write volumes on why my father is a dick with ears and a bad haircut, but for the purpose of this post, suffice it to say that he is. Now, I've been meaning to move away from Texas to Minnesota for a variety of reasons. But the reason we will focus on here is, that I want to get the hell away from my father. I do not intend to tell him anything about the plan until I'm already settled there. Now I could just not call him ever again... I could do that, but instead, I'd like to call him and formally tell him that he no longer has a son. I know that this will hurt him far more than anything I could ever do to him physically. Now I've gotten revenge before and it is a good feeling. Unless you've done it, you never know why they say that it is a dish best served cold. It is a frigid dish filled with self exaltation and the feeling of mastery over one's own destiny. The question I now pose is, is this a bad thing that is counter-productive to the fourth way? Great question, brother!
Restoring the balance is more acceptable than revenge. Stand up for yourself and what you believe. Do that which is necessary to keep making progress regardless of who or what gets in your way. But intentionally hurting another's feelings is a tasteless meal. Best served cold may be right, because it will not provide warmth, nor will it nourish your own essence.
Success is the best kind of revenge. Assuming everyone has seen The Godfather (if you haven't, then please do so), when Michael Corleone goes to meet with Solotzo and the police captain he is evening the score with interest. It's both personal and business. If it was only personal or only business related, then any kind of "payback" would feel hollow. And, of course, Michael pays for what he did with his self-imposed but necessary exile. The revenge he took, the sacrifice he made to assist his family also demanded a price so the balance could be restored. Was it worth it? Ask yourself that before any of you take action on your own... is it really worth it?
How would you benefit from telling your father that he has no son. If there isn't a clear strategic or tactical advantage that will help you or your family out, then don't do it. That's my advice. Simply increasing human suffering because certain people caused you to suffer is mechanical and the opposite direction you want to be traveling in. Allow your connection with Higher Forces to restore any imbalance for you by living your life consciously and with a sense of heightened conscience.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Dec 17, 2010 18:23:57 GMT -6
Well I've been reading up on this fourth way in order to gain a better understanding. It would appear that negative emotions are right out, and while I've been working on this, I do have one question... Is revenge acceptable? Let me start from the beginning... I could write volumes on why my father is a dick with ears and a bad haircut, but for the purpose of this post, suffice it to say that he is. Now, I've been meaning to move away from Texas to Minnesota for a variety of reasons. But the reason we will focus on here is, that I want to get the hell away from my father. I do not intend to tell him anything about the plan until I'm already settled there. Now I could just not call him ever again... I could do that, but instead, I'd like to call him and formally tell him that he no longer has a son. I know that this will hurt him far more than anything I could ever do to him physically. Now I've gotten revenge before and it is a good feeling. Unless you've done it, you never know why they say that it is a dish best served cold. It is a frigid dish filled with self exaltation and the feeling of mastery over one's own destiny. The question I now pose is, is this a bad thing that is counter-productive to the fourth way? Great question, brother!
Restoring the balance is more acceptable than revenge. Stand up for yourself and what you believe. Do that which is necessary to keep making progress regardless of who or what gets in your way. But intentionally hurting another's feelings is a tasteless meal. Best served cold may be right, because it will not provide warmth, nor will it nourish your own essence.
Success is the best kind of revenge. Assuming everyone has seen The Godfather (if you haven't, then please do so), when Michael Corleone goes to meet with Solotzo and the police captain he is evening the score with interest. It's both personal and business. If it was only personal or only business related, then any kind of "payback" would feel hollow. And, of course, Michael pays for what he did with his self-imposed but necessary exile. The revenge he took, the sacrifice he made to assist his family also demanded a price so the balance could be restored. Was it worth it? Ask yourself that before any of you take action on your own... is it really worth it?
How would you benefit from telling your father that he has no son. If there isn't a clear strategic or tactical advantage that will help you or your family out, then don't do it. That's my advice. Simply increasing human suffering because certain people caused you to suffer is mechanical and the opposite direction you want to be traveling in. Allow your connection with Higher Forces to restore any imbalance for you by living your life consciously and with a sense of heightened conscience.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu I have always said that the best revenge on someone is to rise above them and be more successful than they are. Maybe the reason that they are against you is because they see your potential for greatness and they are petty and jealous! Awake!
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 17, 2010 18:25:04 GMT -6
Hmmm very well. However, he has made it known to me in the past that he does not want me to move to Minnesota. But there are many advantages to me doing so and it was my life last I checked. So I will not formally let him know what's going on until I'm already settled in. A little twilight operation if you catch my meaning.
Thank you for your response High Priest Satanis! I think it's awesome that you take such a personal investment in your cult.
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 17, 2010 18:30:03 GMT -6
Great question, brother!
Restoring the balance is more acceptable than revenge. Stand up for yourself and what you believe. Do that which is necessary to keep making progress regardless of who or what gets in your way. But intentionally hurting another's feelings is a tasteless meal. Best served cold may be right, because it will not provide warmth, nor will it nourish your own essence.
Success is the best kind of revenge. Assuming everyone has seen The Godfather (if you haven't, then please do so), when Michael Corleone goes to meet with Solotzo and the police captain he is evening the score with interest. It's both personal and business. If it was only personal or only business related, then any kind of "payback" would feel hollow. And, of course, Michael pays for what he did with his self-imposed but necessary exile. The revenge he took, the sacrifice he made to assist his family also demanded a price so the balance could be restored. Was it worth it? Ask yourself that before any of you take action on your own... is it really worth it?
How would you benefit from telling your father that he has no son. If there isn't a clear strategic or tactical advantage that will help you or your family out, then don't do it. That's my advice. Simply increasing human suffering because certain people caused you to suffer is mechanical and the opposite direction you want to be traveling in. Allow your connection with Higher Forces to restore any imbalance for you by living your life consciously and with a sense of heightened conscience.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu I have always said that the best revenge on someone is to rise above them and be more successful than they are. Maybe the reason that they are against you is because they see your potential for greatness and they are petty and jealous! Awake! Perhaps so brother! But I intend to succeed regardless of what anyone says and I fully intend to smash all opposition with extreme prejudice! It has been said that I am destined for great things, though the precise nature of those things continues to elude me.
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Dec 17, 2010 18:47:05 GMT -6
Hmmm very well. However, he has made it known to me in the past that he does not want me to move to Minnesota. But there are many advantages to me doing so and it was my life last I checked. So I will not formally let him know what's going on until I'm already settled in. A little twilight operation if you catch my meaning. Thank you for your response High Priest Satanis! I think it's awesome that you take such a personal investment in your cult. Sounds kinda like my plans. I'm not going to tell my hubby that I'm starting my gift shop until the land is bought and the shop is set up. He has tried to block me in every way and I just keep going around his obstacles..lol Awake!
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 17, 2010 19:08:38 GMT -6
Hell yeah! Fight the power Sarak! Down with the man!
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Post by raygunnz171 on Dec 17, 2010 20:27:50 GMT -6
The best revenge is to live your life well and succed in all your goals in life.
AWAKE!
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Dec 17, 2010 20:29:03 GMT -6
Hell yeah! Fight the power Sarak! Down with the man! Damn straight! Awake!
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 17, 2010 20:46:44 GMT -6
Hmmm very well. However, he has made it known to me in the past that he does not want me to move to Minnesota. But there are many advantages to me doing so and it was my life last I checked. So I will not formally let him know what's going on until I'm already settled in. A little twilight operation if you catch my meaning. Thank you for your response High Priest Satanis! I think it's awesome that you take such a personal investment in your cult. Sounds kinda like my plans. I'm not going to tell my hubby that I'm starting my gift shop until the land is bought and the shop is set up. He has tried to block me in every way and I just keep going around his obstacles..lol Awake! If his behavior regarding your gift shop is indicative of your relationship as a whole, then I advise getting out of that relationship. Or, at the very least, seek marriage counselling. A worthwhile partner should be supportive of that which is most important to you.
By His loathsome tentacles,
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Apsara Kamalli on Dec 18, 2010 9:34:14 GMT -6
If his behavior regarding your gift shop is indicative of your relationship as a whole, then I advise getting out of that relationship. Or, at the very least, seek marriage counselling. A worthwhile partner should be supportive of that which is most important to you.
By His loathsome tentacles,
Venger As'Nas Satanis
I would agree with this. What is the nature of the relationship in regards to your awakening and well-being if he is constantly blocking your efforts. I know that we all make choices to stay in relationships that may or may not be healthy to our overall being. However, I would challenge you to evaluate the true reason you do so, and then re-evaluate again where you are trying to go. How does remaining in this relationship benefit your efforts, and will you ever be able to achieve your goals without a supportive partner? No need to answer; just throwing it out there. Awake! Apsara Kamalli Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by boksmutant on Dec 18, 2010 14:15:56 GMT -6
I used to have quit a chip on my shoulder about my dad. I joke with him now that I could kick his ass. If I meet up with him to do a job on the house I grew up in, he's his same old aggravated asshole he always was. It gets difficult but I realized long ago that he (like a lot of parents) dont think of there kids as friends. This is something I chose to break.
You'd see how your folks had this private life that was separate from there family. They had fun with their friends but there family was something separate. This was what I decided to change. I treat my dad like a friend now.' I say jokes now, I never would have said because of a fear of a beating. But its worth it.
You must risk not being thought of as their child. If your parent thinks this, you will never be there friend or ally. Hell, being their friend could suck, sure lol; but its better than just being their kid.
Awake!
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Post by Sarak G'hash on Dec 18, 2010 15:25:17 GMT -6
If his behavior regarding your gift shop is indicative of your relationship as a whole, then I advise getting out of that relationship. Or, at the very least, seek marriage counselling. A worthwhile partner should be supportive of that which is most important to you.
By His loathsome tentacles,
Venger As'Nas Satanis
I would agree with this. What is the nature of the relationship in regards to your awakening and well-being if he is constantly blocking your efforts. I know that we all make choices to stay in relationships that may or may not be healthy to our overall being. However, I would challenge you to evaluate the true reason you do so, and then re-evaluate again where you are trying to go. How does remaining in this relationship benefit your efforts, and will you ever be able to achieve your goals without a supportive partner? No need to answer; just throwing it out there. Awake! Apsara Kamalli Esoteric Herald of the Old Gods Cult of Cthulhu He is NOT a worthwhile partner at all..lol. He used me for so many years that it's high time that I used him towards my goal. He supports me as far as shelter, food and clothing and that is all that I need from him. Any love we had in the past was destroyed by his obsessive jealousy. He always accused me of cheating on him although I never did and made my life miserable so now it is my turn. I secretly save up a little here and there for my business and friends have donated supplies as well. He is of the mind that a woman isn't allowed to own anything unless the husband provides it, so when my mom, who was my only remaining parent at the time, started to go into the beginning stages of dementia he had her declare him her legal guardian. Then he took ALL of the money, and sold all of the posessions. We are talking half a million dollars just in cash alone! So yeah, I think he owes me big time and I am now in a position to collect! I didn't leave him back then because he was in total control of the money and at least he provided very well for our two children who were very young at the time. Awake!
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Post by I AM the Way on Dec 19, 2010 12:12:56 GMT -6
I believe you inadvertently brought up a great point, brother.
Certain places can create particular states of mind. Hopefully, most of you can ascend into a higher state of consciousness and conscience here on the CoC forum. Other places are bound to provide a descending influence... your parent's house might make you angry, a classroom might make you feel like a class clown, or being at a friend's house could nudge you into doing something foolish because that environment made you feel under-appreciated.
I know for a fact that when friends of mine are over at my house, their behavior is much different than when I am over at their place... most of it due to attitude colored by locale. The comparison is night and day. In one guy's apartment, especially if a certain person is also in attendance, there's a negative vibe permeating the atmosphere bringing everything down to a mechanical level. However, at my place, much of that negativity seems to evaporate resulting in a good time had by all.
So, be mindful of where you are because it affects how you think and feel. Try to remember yourself in various locations and during all sorts of activities. If you can control yourself in a variety of settings, then you will have formed order within. False personality becomes passive in relation to essence. A soul can be created.
Awake!
Venger As'Nas Satanis High Priest Cult of Cthulhu
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Post by Cain Da'arnesh on Dec 26, 2010 16:56:14 GMT -6
Yeah! Lose that zero and get yourself a hero! (Flexes powerful biceps!) Anyway, I had a profound thought the other night and I'd like to direct this to High Priest Satanis. What if (hypothetically) I do think that it's worth it?
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